How many of them have passpports and/or driving licences? When our current regime manages to disenfranchise those without these things, they will magically become irrelevant.
Yes, except that the poor still have the vote. Unless they all die before the next General Election, anyway.
Mind you, a good number of the poor voted for their own increased poverty, so WTF, indeed.
Close examination of the voting figures does not appear to bear this out.
How do you mean? A lot of folk in social groups D and E did vote tory.
AFAICT the people in these groups that did vote Tory skewed heavily older - and were much more likely to both own their home outright and be in receipt of a pension (either triple locked, or private), in which case they aren't voting to increase their own poverty - at least not directly.
Driving licences probably more than passports, as they're more useful for work. But it'll be interesting to see if people start struggling to afford the photocard renewal fees and drive on expired licences.
Yes - most of those are still in education, or already looking after other people. The net result will be to try to force these people into care work - at which point they won't be able to pay for their own replacements.
In many cases the pay isn't bad for manual labour and folk doing the work can put a lot of money to one side...If you listen to Farming Today on Radio 4 you'll hear people who happily come back year after year to the same farm from Latvia or Romania because it works for them.
I'm late to this, but I thought I'd add that last summer I met a guy in Poland who works for the police there as a mechanic on police vehicles. He's skilled, and they want to keep him, so they let him take a month unpaid in early Autumn to go to France and pick grapes. It pays much better than a blue-collar civil service job in Poland, minimum wage or no. As the Zloty has slowly strengthened against the Pound and the cost of living has risen in Poland, these kinds of advantages have lessened for Poles here, and their places have started to be taken by Romanians and Bugarians - whilst in Poland, emigrants are replaced by low-wage Ukrainians.
My local supermarket used to have scores of Eastern Europeans who would hand wash your car while you shopped. They haven't been around for ages. Is this because of Brexit, or because it was a dodgy setup I wonder. (Sadly I gather the latter is not uncommon, and has been likened to slavery.)
I suspect it might have been dodgy, or was (for whatever reason) not pleasing to the supermarket company.
There are plenty of Eastern Europeans running car washes around here (often on former filling-station sites), but there are indeed concerns that those working in them are treated little better than slaves.
Until relatively recently there was a group of refugees/asylum seekers doing excellent car washes, but that ceased. Through channels we found that the they did not have permission to work, so they were stuck on benefits, without the option.
The enterprising British have not yet stepped up to this particular plate.
I suspect it might have been dodgy, or was (for whatever reason) not pleasing to the supermarket company.
There are plenty of Eastern Europeans running car washes around here (often on former filling-station sites), but there are indeed concerns that those working in them are treated little better than slaves.
Reminds me of Moonlighting (1982), an early Jeremy Irons film. Polish contractors hired by a British politician.
I remember that! They hired a skip and the neighbours filled it with their domestic rubbish, and Jeremy Irons was unable to do anything except yell insults at the sky. It was a good film.
I can now tell you that Eton Mess seems to be no longer on the menu in my local Marks and Spencers café
I was never tempted by it!
I'm sure this is completely coincidental!!! -D
And I saw yours, with which I agree, but decided to be facetious...
I assumed you did and you were. But it is disappointing how often I am misunderstood online so just in case, for the sake of others...
Anyway. It seems that I have been totally correct about Mr Johnson; he is an arrogant, lazy, feckless delitente with no vision for government other than to head it himself.
As it all unravels, I find myself wondering what will be the cost and who will pay it. Certain that BJ himself will not.
I can now tell you that Eton Mess seems to be no longer on the menu in my local Marks and Spencers café
I was never tempted by it!
I'm sure this is completely coincidental!!! -D
Because it is a dish more usually consumed in summer?
I can now tell you that Eton Mess seems to be no longer on the menu in my local Marks and Spencers café
I was never tempted by it!
I'm sure this is completely coincidental!!! -D
The first time I was given Eton Mess was at the house of a former Labour MP.
@Rossweisse As written, Henry VII (7th): married 18th January, Prince Arthur born between 18th and 20th September. With the best will in the world that comes down to a pregnant bride.
@Rossweisse As written, Henry VII (7th): married 18th January, Prince Arthur born between 18th and 20th September. With the best will in the world that comes down to a pregnant bride.
Not really. That's 8 months which is early but not inordinately so.
@Rossweisse As written, Henry VII (7th): married 18th January, Prince Arthur born between 18th and 20th September. With the best will in the world that comes down to a pregnant bride.
Not really. That's 8 months which is early but not inordinately so.
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Close examination of the voting figures does not appear to bear this out.
How do you mean? A lot of folk in social groups D and E did vote tory.
Even without being facetious, I genuinely think that the current bunch of Tory MPs have very few skills between them.
AFZ
AFAICT the people in these groups that did vote Tory skewed heavily older - and were much more likely to both own their home outright and be in receipt of a pension (either triple locked, or private), in which case they aren't voting to increase their own poverty - at least not directly.
The numbers on the idea we can replace all low-skilled labour internally.
Driving licences probably more than passports, as they're more useful for work. But it'll be interesting to see if people start struggling to afford the photocard renewal fees and drive on expired licences.
Yes - most of those are still in education, or already looking after other people. The net result will be to try to force these people into care work - at which point they won't be able to pay for their own replacements.
Plan b ... deport the poor.
I presume you are talking about midwives on night shifts.
He (or rather his former partners) does seem to need their services on a regular basis.
I think you might have used the wrong verb there.
I'll see meself out, and I'll try not to knock over any poles...
I was implying that 'cares for' is not the same as 'interested in' but I see your point...
I'm late to this, but I thought I'd add that last summer I met a guy in Poland who works for the police there as a mechanic on police vehicles. He's skilled, and they want to keep him, so they let him take a month unpaid in early Autumn to go to France and pick grapes. It pays much better than a blue-collar civil service job in Poland, minimum wage or no. As the Zloty has slowly strengthened against the Pound and the cost of living has risen in Poland, these kinds of advantages have lessened for Poles here, and their places have started to be taken by Romanians and Bugarians - whilst in Poland, emigrants are replaced by low-wage Ukrainians.
We will, of course, welcome any Romanians or Bulgarians who might like to join us!
There are plenty of Eastern Europeans running car washes around here (often on former filling-station sites), but there are indeed concerns that those working in them are treated little better than slaves.
The enterprising British have not yet stepped up to this particular plate.
Reminds me of Moonlighting (1982), an early Jeremy Irons film. Polish contractors hired by a British politician.
I was never tempted by it!
I'm sure this is completely coincidental!!! -D
I assumed you did and you were. But it is disappointing how often I am misunderstood online so just in case, for the sake of others...
Anyway. It seems that I have been totally correct about Mr Johnson; he is an arrogant, lazy, feckless delitente with no vision for government other than to head it himself.
As it all unravels, I find myself wondering what will be the cost and who will pay it. Certain that BJ himself will not.
AFZ
Because it is a dish more usually consumed in summer?
I suppose this will play well with all the sort of voters one least respects.
You had to spell it out didn't you? Now go and have a long think about what you've done.
Oh dear. Sorry about that...
I wonder if it was intentional, to get the "aah" vote?
I think he thinks chivalry is what you do when you are cold
And this is the same man who said that "uppity and irresponsible women” had a “natural desire” to get pregnant.
Presumably only when it's not him doing the begetting ...
Not really. That's 8 months which is early but not inordinately so.
This was normal and usual at that time.