I actually saw the Charlie Hebdo parody of Bardot in Contempt a little bit before I saw the original movie, and apart from thinking the other person in the cartoon looked like Godard, didn't recognize the connection until it was pointed out to me. I have no clear memories of her performance in that movie(a godardian send-up of Hollywood and America generally), except for the part that had earlier been tributed by the Hebdo.
Other than that, the only thing I can remember seeing her in was some G-rated disneyesque American thing about a young adolescent boy who has a mad crush on her and gets to meet her at the very end. It was called something in the vicinity of Hello Brigitte. All I remember(this was the late 1970s on Sunday afternoon TV) is Bardot gives the boy a puppy as a gift, and he then has a poignant hand-on-shoulder moment with his dad where he says something like "She's the most beautiful woman in the world."
Anyway, hopefully Jean Marie Le Pen is now at the sulphuric arcs to welcome her home with true gallic gallantry.
I actually saw the Charlie Hebdo parody of Bardot in Contempt a little bit before I saw the original movie, and apart from thinking the other person in the cartoon looked like Godard, didn't recognize the connection until it was pointed out to me. I have no clear memories of her performance in that movie(a godardian send-up of Hollywood and America generally), except for the part that had earlier been tributed by the Hebdo.
Other than that, the only thing I can remember seeing her in was some G-rated disneyesque American thing about a young adolescent boy who has a mad crush on her and gets to meet her at the very end. It was called something in the vicinity of Hello Brigitte. All I remember(this was the late 1970s on Sunday afternoon TV) is Bardot gives the boy a puppy as a gift, and he then has a poignant hand-on-shoulder moment with his dad where he says something like "She's the most beautiful woman in the world."
Anyway, hopefully Jean Marie Le Pen is now at the sulphuric arcs to welcome her home with true gallic gallantry.
Hopefully both of them will find ultimate redemption, I pray. 🕯
I actually saw the Charlie Hebdo parody of Bardot in Contempt a little bit before I saw the original movie, and apart from thinking the other person in the cartoon looked like Godard, didn't recognize the connection until it was pointed out to me. I have no clear memories of her performance in that movie(a godardian send-up of Hollywood and America generally), except for the part that had earlier been tributed by the Hebdo.
Other than that, the only thing I can remember seeing her in was some G-rated disneyesque American thing about a young adolescent boy who has a mad crush on her and gets to meet her at the very end. It was called something in the vicinity of Hello Brigitte. All I remember(this was the late 1970s on Sunday afternoon TV) is Bardot gives the boy a puppy as a gift, and he then has a poignant hand-on-shoulder moment with his dad where he says something like "She's the most beautiful woman in the world."
Anyway, hopefully Jean Marie Le Pen is now at the sulphuric arcs to welcome her home with true gallic gallantry.
Hopefully both of them will find ultimate redemption, I pray. 🕯
Yeah, I mean, if Jesus could pray with the tax collectors(in those days, prob'ly the equivalent of gangsters working as collection-agents for a occupying empire), we can hope that Le Pen and Bardot only get tossed into purgatory and eventually make it out.
OTOH, I think both of them knew that the things they were saying and doing were pissing off large numbers of people, and that probably accounts, at least psychologically, for why they were carrying on as such. So, they were pretty much courting abuse and villification to begin with.
I am not in any way whatsoever a supporter of expanding animal-rights beyond the current consensus, but if I had to pick one such issue on which I agreed with Bardot, I guess it would whaling. Fans of the anti-whaling movement may be interested to know that one of the more famous boats used by the rescuers was called the Brigitte Bardot, presumably because she donated the money for it.
The other boat I saw mentioned alongside the Brigitte Bardot was the Bob Barker, after the game-show host and animal-rights activist. I think these boats were seen on that Whale Wars show in the late 2000s, but I'm not sure.
Yeah, I mean, if Jesus could pray with the tax collectors(in those days, prob'ly the equivalent of gangsters working as collection-agents for a occupying empire), we can hope that Le Pen and Bardot only get tossed into purgatory and eventually make it out.
OTOH, I think both of them knew that the things they were saying and doing were pissing off large numbers of people, and that probably accounts, at least psychologically, for why they were carrying on as such. So, they were pretty much courting abuse and villification to begin with.
Oh, I don’t think it’s dependent on the various qualities of tax collectors in the first century or anything, just Jesus’ mercy and grace, however great or small our (visible) sins on Earth. In any case, I hope they will ultimately be redeemed in the end.
Yeah, I mean, if Jesus could pray with the tax collectors(in those days, prob'ly the equivalent of gangsters working as collection-agents for a occupying empire), we can hope that Le Pen and Bardot only get tossed into purgatory and eventually make it out.
OTOH, I think both of them knew that the things they were saying and doing were pissing off large numbers of people, and that probably accounts, at least psychologically, for why they were carrying on as such. So, they were pretty much courting abuse and villification to begin with.
Oh, I don’t think it’s dependent on the various qualities of tax collectors in the first century or anything, just Jesus’ mercy and grace, however great or small our (visible) sins on Earth. In any case, I hope they will ultimately be redeemed in the end.
Yeah, I was emphasizing the likely iniquities of 1st Century colonial tax collection to drive home that Jesus is asking us to forgive even people we would consider to be absolutely vile.
(I sometimes think that tax-collector isn't an example that translates well from biblical times to the current era, at least not in the western democracies, where the job is seen more as an annoyance, albeit at times an extreme one. If Zacchaeus was just the nerdy accountant down the block from you who works for the revenue office of your democratically elected government, Jesus' redemptive interaction with him would pack much less of a punch.)
Yeah, I mean, if Jesus could pray with the tax collectors(in those days, prob'ly the equivalent of gangsters working as collection-agents for a occupying empire), we can hope that Le Pen and Bardot only get tossed into purgatory and eventually make it out.
OTOH, I think both of them knew that the things they were saying and doing were pissing off large numbers of people, and that probably accounts, at least psychologically, for why they were carrying on as such. So, they were pretty much courting abuse and villification to begin with.
Oh, I don’t think it’s dependent on the various qualities of tax collectors in the first century or anything, just Jesus’ mercy and grace, however great or small our (visible) sins on Earth. In any case, I hope they will ultimately be redeemed in the end.
Yeah, I was emphasizing the likely iniquities of 1st Century colonial tax collection to drive home that Jesus is asking us to forgive even people we would consider to be absolutely vile.
(I sometimes think that tax-collector isn't an example that translates well from biblical times to the current era, at least not in the western democracies, where the job is seen more as an annoyance, albeit at times an extreme one. If Zacchaeus was just the nerdy accountant down the block from you who works for the revenue office of your democratically elected government, Jesus' redemptive interaction with him would pack much less of a punch.)
(I sometimes think that tax-collector isn't an example that translates well from biblical times to the current era, at least not in the western democracies, where the job is seen more as an annoyance, albeit at times an extreme one. If Zacchaeus was just the nerdy accountant down the block from you who works for the revenue office of your democratically elected government, Jesus' redemptive interaction with him would pack much less of a punch.)
My dad was an ordained minister but had to retire on health grounds. He found a few office jobs and ended up working for HMR&C in the VAT office. He was still active in the church and was fond of pointing out that he went from being a vicar to being a tax collector.
Modern Tax Collectors have to do an honourable job in ensuring that everyone pays their fair share towards the maintenance of society including Health Service, Education etc. We can argue over what we should pay for and what portion we should pay. That is what parliament is therefore but the tax man is there to implement it.
The tax man in Jesus' day was there to raise money to keep the conquering powers in power.
And yet many of the advocates of "low tax, small state" or "all taxation is theft" still appeal to that view of tax collection to justify their world view.
Either that, or they appeal to the 1973 Disney animated version of Robin Hood.
Modern Tax Collectors have to do an honourable job in ensuring that everyone pays their fair share towards the maintenance of society including Health Service, Education etc. We can argue over what we should pay for and what portion we should pay. That is what parliament is therefore but the tax man is there to implement it.
The tax man in Jesus' day was there to raise money to keep the conquering powers in power.
A very different role.
The tax men were also there to make a profit for themselves. They paid a set amount and anything above minus expenses they could collect from the populace was theirs, aka tax farming. There is a reason the tax farmers in 18th century France were so detested.
Here's one from my "thought they were already dead" list:
One of the most notorious spies in United States history, responsible for the arrest and eventual execution of numerous Soviet and Russian officials secretly working on behalf of the US intelligence community, has died at the age of 84.
Aldrich Ames, a former CIA case officer arrested by the FBI in 1994 and sentenced to life in prison for espionage, died in custody on Monday, according to a spokesperson for the US Bureau of Prisons
Erich von Daniken, who wrote books about aliens building the pyramids and so forth, has died. I think he was 90, and I have to say I thought he was already dead!
It may have only made it to the Scottish news, but Jim Wallace, Lord Wallace of Tankerness, who was variously the MP for Orkney and Shetland, Scotland's first Deputy First Minister and the Moderator of the General Assembly of the Church of Scotland, and a very nice man, has died suddenly aged 71 (too young).
The heavenly choir will be getting a very good bass.
Despite watching a lot of SCTV, I have a hard time recalling her actual role in a lot of skits. Obviously, for most of its various incarnations, any female role was either her or Andrea Martin.
One thing I do remember is when SCTV was being filmed in Edmonton, some non-TV members of the Second City improv came to town and performed a show at a local nightclub, which I cajoled my parents into taking me to. The director was Catherine O'Hara. Very glad I got to see that.
Other than that, I just remember her from a few movies. Not sure if I knew before today that she was the mother in Home Alone, since I've never watched any of those films. She was pretty good as the midlife-crisis besotted mother on Away We Go, though that was a small role.
And I did like her line from Surviving Christmas, after a rich, depressed stranger who used to live in her and her husband's house asks if he can pay them to have a happy Christmas with them.
Well, we're faking it anyway, so might as well get paid for it.
IIRC, the plot ends up veering into juvenalia near the end with jokes about her character being into kinky sex on-line or some such.
I associate her with A Mighty Wind, where her sad, funny and rather sweet relationship with Eugene Levy’s character was a highlight of the film.
Same here, as well as two other Christopher Guest mochumentaries: Waiting for Guffman and Best in Show.
In Best in Show, was she the wife in the couple with the pre-marital roamance-ratio imbalance? Eugene Levy was the husband, right?
(I never followed movies by the Spinal Tap circle of artists[even Reiner is pretty offhand for me], so I only ended up seeing that at a video-room in Korea one boring Sunday afternoon. It was funny, but kinda like a hip sketch comedy elevated to the big screen.)
Not sure which movie you’re asking about, @stetson, or exactly what is meant by “the pre-marital roamance-ratio imbalance.”
But in Best in Show she and Eugene Levy played married couple Gerry and Cookie Fleck. (Gerry had two left feet.) In Waiting for Guffman, she is married to Fred Willard, though Eugene Levy is also in it.
And in A Mighty Wind, she and Eugene Levy played Mitch and Mickey, a former folk-singing duo (based on Ian and Sylvia), who broke up both romantically and professionally years before the movie starts.
Not sure which movie you’re asking about, @stetson, or exactly what is meant by “the pre-marital roamance-ratio imbalance.”
But in Best in Show she and Eugene Levy played married couple Gerry and Cookie Fleck. (Gerry had two left feet.) In Waiting for Guffman, she is married to Fred Willard, though Eugene Levy is also in it.
And in A Mighty Wind, she and Eugene Levy played Mitch and Mickey, a former folk-singing duo (based on Ian and Sylvia), who broke up both romantically and professionally years before the movie starts.
Sorry. I was talking about Best In Show. It was a running gag, basically about sexual tension in the marriage. I think the wife kept running into old boyfriends and such.
Based on what you say about the two characters in A Mighty Wind, I'm guessing the ones I'm thinking of in Best In Show are a version of the same broad gag, but as still-married.
I think the only part of A Mighty Wind I've seen is Fred Willard as some washed-up sitcom star rhapsodizing about his career with carefully nuanced self-deprecation.
Based on what you say about the two characters in A Mighty Wind, I'm guessing the ones I'm thinking of in Best In Show are a version of the same broad gag, but as still-married.
Based on what you say about the two characters in A Mighty Wind, I'm guessing the ones I'm thinking of in Best In Show are a version of the same broad gag, but as still-married.
You would guess incorrectly.
Well, I didn't mean they had the exact same issues in their marriage. Just that both would probably be comedic portrayals of somewhat less-than-happy aging couples.
Wikipedia's summation seems to back that up. And it turns out I guessed correctly that it was the same pair of actors doing both couples. Maybe I'll try to find some of the Mighty Wind stuff on YouTube.
Based on what you say about the two characters in A Mighty Wind, I'm guessing the ones I'm thinking of in Best In Show are a version of the same broad gag, but as still-married.
You would guess incorrectly.
Well, I didn't mean they had the exact same issues in their marriage. Just that both would probably be comedic portrayals of somewhat less-than-happy aging couples.
Having seen both a number of times and rewatched both relatively recently, I wouldn’t say “less-than-happy aging couples” is an accurate description of O’Hara and Levy’s roles in either movie. They really are quite different couples in the two movies.
Based on what you say about the two characters in A Mighty Wind, I'm guessing the ones I'm thinking of in Best In Show are a version of the same broad gag, but as still-married.
You would guess incorrectly.
Well, I didn't mean they had the exact same issues in their marriage. Just that both would probably be comedic portrayals of somewhat less-than-happy aging couples.
Having seen both a number of times and rewatched both relatively recently, I wouldn’t say “less-than-happy aging couples” is an accurate description of O’Hara and Levy’s roles in either movie. They really are quite different couples in the two movies.
Fair enough. Probably coasting too much on it being the same actors.
Beyond the subject matter, that couple is, for some reason, the only thing I can really still remember about Best in Show, and specifically the jokes about their pre-marital romances. And probably they weren't really unhappy, but that one running joke was always at Levy's expense.
(Mostly, I was just thinking about how odd it was that SCTV was such a major focus of my media attention as a kid, but I kinda lost track of Catherine O'Hara's career afterwards, even with regards to things I'd seen her in.)
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Thanks for that. An enjoyable memory.
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Thanks for that. An enjoyable memory.
I'll retroactively dedicate the one dog-meat dinner I've had to her memory.
Other than that, the only thing I can remember seeing her in was some G-rated disneyesque American thing about a young adolescent boy who has a mad crush on her and gets to meet her at the very end. It was called something in the vicinity of Hello Brigitte. All I remember(this was the late 1970s on Sunday afternoon TV) is Bardot gives the boy a puppy as a gift, and he then has a poignant hand-on-shoulder moment with his dad where he says something like "She's the most beautiful woman in the world."
Anyway, hopefully Jean Marie Le Pen is now at the sulphuric arcs to welcome her home with true gallic gallantry.
Hopefully both of them will find ultimate redemption, I pray. 🕯
Yeah, I mean, if Jesus could pray with the tax collectors(in those days, prob'ly the equivalent of gangsters working as collection-agents for a occupying empire), we can hope that Le Pen and Bardot only get tossed into purgatory and eventually make it out.
OTOH, I think both of them knew that the things they were saying and doing were pissing off large numbers of people, and that probably accounts, at least psychologically, for why they were carrying on as such. So, they were pretty much courting abuse and villification to begin with.
I am not in any way whatsoever a supporter of expanding animal-rights beyond the current consensus, but if I had to pick one such issue on which I agreed with Bardot, I guess it would whaling. Fans of the anti-whaling movement may be interested to know that one of the more famous boats used by the rescuers was called the Brigitte Bardot, presumably because she donated the money for it.
The other boat I saw mentioned alongside the Brigitte Bardot was the Bob Barker, after the game-show host and animal-rights activist. I think these boats were seen on that Whale Wars show in the late 2000s, but I'm not sure.
Oh, I don’t think it’s dependent on the various qualities of tax collectors in the first century or anything, just Jesus’ mercy and grace, however great or small our (visible) sins on Earth. In any case, I hope they will ultimately be redeemed in the end.
Yeah, I was emphasizing the likely iniquities of 1st Century colonial tax collection to drive home that Jesus is asking us to forgive even people we would consider to be absolutely vile.
(I sometimes think that tax-collector isn't an example that translates well from biblical times to the current era, at least not in the western democracies, where the job is seen more as an annoyance, albeit at times an extreme one. If Zacchaeus was just the nerdy accountant down the block from you who works for the revenue office of your democratically elected government, Jesus' redemptive interaction with him would pack much less of a punch.)
Ah, that makes sense. ❤️
My dad was an ordained minister but had to retire on health grounds. He found a few office jobs and ended up working for HMR&C in the VAT office. He was still active in the church and was fond of pointing out that he went from being a vicar to being a tax collector.
The tax man in Jesus' day was there to raise money to keep the conquering powers in power.
A very different role.
Either that, or they appeal to the 1973 Disney animated version of Robin Hood.
The tax men were also there to make a profit for themselves. They paid a set amount and anything above minus expenses they could collect from the populace was theirs, aka tax farming. There is a reason the tax farmers in 18th century France were so detested.
Well, let's hope he's grateful. 😅
Couldn't resist that.
The heavenly choir will be getting a very good bass.
RIP Jim.
Despite watching a lot of SCTV, I have a hard time recalling her actual role in a lot of skits. Obviously, for most of its various incarnations, any female role was either her or Andrea Martin.
One thing I do remember is when SCTV was being filmed in Edmonton, some non-TV members of the Second City improv came to town and performed a show at a local nightclub, which I cajoled my parents into taking me to. The director was Catherine O'Hara. Very glad I got to see that.
Other than that, I just remember her from a few movies. Not sure if I knew before today that she was the mother in Home Alone, since I've never watched any of those films. She was pretty good as the midlife-crisis besotted mother on Away We Go, though that was a small role.
And I did like her line from Surviving Christmas, after a rich, depressed stranger who used to live in her and her husband's house asks if he can pay them to have a happy Christmas with them.
Well, we're faking it anyway, so might as well get paid for it.
IIRC, the plot ends up veering into juvenalia near the end with jokes about her character being into kinky sex on-line or some such.
In Best in Show, was she the wife in the couple with the pre-marital roamance-ratio imbalance? Eugene Levy was the husband, right?
(I never followed movies by the Spinal Tap circle of artists[even Reiner is pretty offhand for me], so I only ended up seeing that at a video-room in Korea one boring Sunday afternoon. It was funny, but kinda like a hip sketch comedy elevated to the big screen.)
But in Best in Show she and Eugene Levy played married couple Gerry and Cookie Fleck. (Gerry had two left feet.) In Waiting for Guffman, she is married to Fred Willard, though Eugene Levy is also in it.
And in A Mighty Wind, she and Eugene Levy played Mitch and Mickey, a former folk-singing duo (based on Ian and Sylvia), who broke up both romantically and professionally years before the movie starts.
Sorry. I was talking about Best In Show. It was a running gag, basically about sexual tension in the marriage. I think the wife kept running into old boyfriends and such.
Based on what you say about the two characters in A Mighty Wind, I'm guessing the ones I'm thinking of in Best In Show are a version of the same broad gag, but as still-married.
I think the only part of A Mighty Wind I've seen is Fred Willard as some washed-up sitcom star rhapsodizing about his career with carefully nuanced self-deprecation.
Well, I didn't mean they had the exact same issues in their marriage. Just that both would probably be comedic portrayals of somewhat less-than-happy aging couples.
Wikipedia's summation seems to back that up. And it turns out I guessed correctly that it was the same pair of actors doing both couples. Maybe I'll try to find some of the Mighty Wind stuff on YouTube.
Fair enough. Probably coasting too much on it being the same actors.
Beyond the subject matter, that couple is, for some reason, the only thing I can really still remember about Best in Show, and specifically the jokes about their pre-marital romances. And probably they weren't really unhappy, but that one running joke was always at Levy's expense.
(Mostly, I was just thinking about how odd it was that SCTV was such a major focus of my media attention as a kid, but I kinda lost track of Catherine O'Hara's career afterwards, even with regards to things I'd seen her in.)