Fuck this fucking virus with a fucking farm implement.

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  • Doc TorDoc Tor Admin Emeritus
    Obviously not a support thread, so fuck the virus as well as good luck. And Rook is a pussycat, really.
  • BoogieBoogie Heaven Host
    🕯 @The5thMary

    I hope you soon recover.
  • Best wishes @The5thMary. May it be a short illness and recovery.
  • GalilitGalilit Shipmate
    Prayers ascending for The5thMary
  • Me too. Somehow announcing a COVID case in Hell seems appropriate.
  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    Wishing you a speedy recovery, @The5thMary.
  • NicoleMRNicoleMR Shipmate
    Feel better soon!
  • DoublethinkDoublethink Admin, 8th Day Host
    Make sure you have a pulse oximeter and know what threshold is for calling for support. (They are cheap to buy off Amazon if your healthcare provider doesn’t issue one.)
  • LydaLyda Shipmate
    Get well!

    And the virus can go fuck itself :rage:
  • Make sure you have a pulse oximeter and know what threshold is for calling for support. (They are cheap to buy off Amazon if your healthcare provider doesn’t issue one.)

    Not giving medical advice, but shortness of breath and how you feel. This is what to pay attention to. People are waiting too long, so please keep in touch with health care and ask many questions. Blood pO2 is but one indicator.
  • Doc Tor wrote: »
    There's also a form of "our champions shall battle yours" g
    Make sure you have a pulse oximeter and know what threshold is for calling for support. (They are cheap to buy off Amazon if your healthcare provider doesn’t issue one.)

    Not giving medical advice, but shortness of breath and how you feel. This is what to pay attention to. People are waiting too long, so please keep in touch with health care and ask many questions. Blood pO2 is but one indicator.

    The point with the pulse oximeter is that it flags problems in people who don't feel particularly unwell.
  • Doc TorDoc Tor Admin Emeritus
    Make sure you have a pulse oximeter and know what threshold is for calling for support. (They are cheap to buy off Amazon if your healthcare provider doesn’t issue one.)

    Not giving medical advice, but shortness of breath and how you feel. This is what to pay attention to. People are waiting too long, so please keep in touch with health care and ask many questions. Blood pO2 is but one indicator.

    "Not giving medical advice". Proceeds to give medical advice.

    Knock it off, yall. I'm sure all the Mary variants know the score by now...

    DT
    HH
  • Had to do the Canadian do-it-yourself on-line supervised test at home twice, since the system at the border was in chaos when we returned (driving) from NY. The 10-day test took 7 hours at the computer and phone, and we were only saved from insanity by a calm nurse at the other end who kept her cool when it turned out at a late stage that their system was incompatible with Firefox. She managed to keep us in a holding pattern with about 2,300 others now ahead of us while we logged in again with Chrome and completed the tests. I had mixed feelings at the end when she complimented us on how patient we were, and how competent we were as older people handling all this computery stuff...

    We had our first vaccinations and four tests, all within three weeks. I am fairly sure we are not walking biohazards, but we have to call in every day, accept random calls back and so far, one visit from a private security contractor, until quarantine ends at midnight tomorrow.
  • @5thMary, Prayers ascending for your return to good health.
  • Not Hell: Prayers for @The5thMary. May everyone be left unscathed.

    Very Much Hell: the media's obsession with the baiting headline whether than, oh, complete facts. Much has been made of Denmark's discontinuation of distributing the AstraZeneca vaccine. Almost nothing has been of the statement made by Denmark's non-political chief health bureaucrat, that Denmark believes that they have tamed their curve, and that he would take the AZ vaccine himself.
  • This, so very much this.
  • Doc TorDoc Tor Admin Emeritus
    I tried to sign up for the mix-and-match vaccine trial, only to discover I've had my first jab 5 days too late.
  • BoogieBoogie Heaven Host
    Doc Tor wrote: »
    I tried to sign up for the mix-and-match vaccine trial, only to discover I've had my first jab 5 days too late.

    I did too, but they are not doing it in my area.

  • The5thMaryThe5thMary Shipmate
    Finally! Finally I am feeling much better for longer. Thanks to everyone who offered prayers on my behalf. I still have problems with my senses of smell and taste disappearing but that's more annoying than anything.

    The coughing until I blacked out stopped a few days after my emergency room visit and I can finally use my asthma inhaler again without immediately coughing out the medicine! I still get so very tired doing the easiest things and sometimes I sleep almost twenty-four hours straight.

    I'm not in quarantine anymore, thank God...but I still have to move the rest of my shit from Tacoma to Seattle before the end of May. My friends have been super stars in regards to helping me move. They continue to do most of the packing and physically moving. They're doing 98% of it as my back and both arms have been getting worse, even before I got Covid-19.

    Anyway, I continue to heal. Hallelujah!
  • cgichardcgichard Shipmate
    Glory to God! Good to have you back in the land of the living.
  • amen.
  • TelfordTelford Shipmate
    We're 900% increase over 30 days. Testing shows 8% to 11% positive. Hospitals full.

    So we're going full on social disobedience. Disobeying public health orders. We're not going to gyms, bingo halls, church, stores, restaurants, pubs. We're staying home. We're ordering curbside. We're buying local. We're being decent and kind. We're not participating in the re-open plan. We're closing the office, we're working from home. Because disobeying the gov't is the only way.

    And we're going to crucify these people when the public inquiry and royal commission is held.

    This has been the problem since this pandemic started. Far too many people have ignored Government advice and have disobeyed the rules
  • Telford wrote: »
    We're 900% increase over 30 days. Testing shows 8% to 11% positive. Hospitals full.

    So we're going full on social disobedience. Disobeying public health orders. We're not going to gyms, bingo halls, church, stores, restaurants, pubs. We're staying home. We're ordering curbside. We're buying local. We're being decent and kind. We're not participating in the re-open plan. We're closing the office, we're working from home. Because disobeying the gov't is the only way.

    And we're going to crucify these people when the public inquiry and royal commission is held.

    This has been the problem since this pandemic started. Far too many people have ignored Government advice and have disobeyed the rules

    Did you even read the post? In @NOprophet_NØprofit 's situation ignoring the government will improve matters.
  • And in England the Government's rules have changed 65 times, which has not done a lot for remembering what we're supposed to be doing, let alone compliance and accurate policing of those rules.
  • MaryLouiseMaryLouise Purgatory Host, Epiphanies Host
    The5thMary wrote: »
    Finally! Finally I am feeling much better for longer. Thanks to everyone who offered prayers on my behalf. I still have problems with my senses of smell and taste disappearing but that's more annoying than anything.

    The coughing until I blacked out stopped a few days after my emergency room visit and I can finally use my asthma inhaler again without immediately coughing out the medicine! I still get so very tired doing the easiest things and sometimes I sleep almost twenty-four hours straight.

    I'm not in quarantine anymore, thank God...but I still have to move the rest of my shit from Tacoma to Seattle before the end of May. My friends have been super stars in regards to helping me move. They continue to do most of the packing and physically moving. They're doing 98% of it as my back and both arms have been getting worse, even before I got Covid-19.

    Anyway, I continue to heal. Hallelujah!

    Very happy to see this, @The5thMary, I've been watching for a post from you. Rest as much as possible.
  • GalilitGalilit Shipmate
    Super to hear, TheFifthMary!
    Especially about your friends helping you
  • NenyaNenya All Saints Host, Ecclesiantics & MW Host
    The5thMary wrote: »
    Finally! Finally I am feeling much better for longer. Thanks to everyone who offered prayers on my behalf. I still have problems with my senses of smell and taste disappearing but that's more annoying than anything.

    The coughing until I blacked out stopped a few days after my emergency room visit and I can finally use my asthma inhaler again without immediately coughing out the medicine! I still get so very tired doing the easiest things and sometimes I sleep almost twenty-four hours straight.

    I'm not in quarantine anymore, thank God...but I still have to move the rest of my shit from Tacoma to Seattle before the end of May. My friends have been super stars in regards to helping me move. They continue to do most of the packing and physically moving. They're doing 98% of it as my back and both arms have been getting worse, even before I got Covid-19.

    Anyway, I continue to heal. Hallelujah!

    So delighted to hear from you @The5thMary ! May the healing continue.
  • DooneDoone Shipmate
    So glad to see you posting again and on the mend, @The5thMary, take good care of yourself!
  • @The5thMary Phew! So good to hear from you: I think all the ship's company was praying for you.
  • Good to see you posting again, best wishes for a full recovery.
  • Doc TorDoc Tor Admin Emeritus
    And in England the Government's rules have changed 65 times, which has not done a lot for remembering what we're supposed to be doing, let alone compliance and accurate policing of those rules.

    And those in government have shown very little regard for their own rules, even when they could work out what they were.

    Let's face it, we've been left to our own devices over much of the pandemic.
  • Doc Tor wrote: »
    And in England the Government's rules have changed 65 times, which has not done a lot for remembering what we're supposed to be doing, let alone compliance and accurate policing of those rules.

    And those in government have shown very little regard for their own rules, even when they could work out what they were.

    Let's face it, we've been left to our own devices over much of the pandemic.

    So we have, and with a PM willing (it seems) to let the bodies pile up...

    How many more will die needlessly before the *government* gets a grip on the virus? The NHS is doing a fantastic job at rolling out vaccinations, but even they can't begin to get people to comply with the ever-changing *guidance*.
  • Delighted to see you posting @The5thMary !
  • Praise be to God for @The5thMary 's recovery. May you continue to strengthen every day. What would we do without friends?
  • NicoleMRNicoleMR Shipmate
    Good to see you, 5th Mary!
  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    Welcome back, @The5thMary - take it easy, and get well soon!
  • TelfordTelford Shipmate
    Telford wrote: »
    We're 900% increase over 30 days. Testing shows 8% to 11% positive. Hospitals full.

    So we're going full on social disobedience. Disobeying public health orders. We're not going to gyms, bingo halls, church, stores, restaurants, pubs. We're staying home. We're ordering curbside. We're buying local. We're being decent and kind. We're not participating in the re-open plan. We're closing the office, we're working from home. Because disobeying the gov't is the only way.

    And we're going to crucify these people when the public inquiry and royal commission is held.

    This has been the problem since this pandemic started. Far too many people have ignored Government advice and have disobeyed the rules

    Did you even read the post? In @NOprophet_NØprofit 's situation ignoring the government will improve matters.

    Yes I did read the post and I obviously don't agree with it
  • Telford wrote: »
    Yes I did read the post and I obviously don't agree with it

    You claimed that the problem "since the pandemic started" is that far too many people have disobeyed the government, and not followed the rules, by which you presumably mean things like the government told them to stay at home, but they thought that driving across country to visit their family was more important, and that by doing so, they prolonged the pandemic and made things worse.

    In the case of our shipmate @NOprophet_NØprofit, his government is telling him that it is safe to resume his normal activities and mingle with people. His opinion, based on the fact that he can read, and look at his local Covid statistics, is that his government is talking bollocks. So he's choosing not to open his doors to the public, to continue to have his employees work from home, and to generally not go out in public and mingle.

    None of those things is illegal, and all of those things are safer than the government advice. Neither @NOprophet_NØprofit's government, nor yours, nor mine has the power to order us to eat in a restaurant once a week in order to restore profitability to the restaurant sector. They do not have the power to force us to admit the public to our places of business, if we only want to do business by mail.
  • Alan Cresswell Alan Cresswell Admin, 8th Day Host
    Perhaps @Telford is saying that everyone should slavishly obey every edict of the government without question and protest, because our governments have all the facts and data and work tirelessly and selflessly for the best interests of us all.
  • DafydDafyd Hell Host
    The principle seems to be, Heads the government gets the credit, Tails the people get the blame.
    Take Eat out to Help out. Telford has said that the government was quite right to set up the scheme, because cases were low. But the people who ate out were doing an irresponsible and foolish thing and should have known better: so the blame for the resulting spread in cases lies on the people who took up the scheme, not on the government who came up with the scheme and promoted it.
  • So grateful for your improved health @The5thMary
  • @The5thMary, You must be a good friend to have such loyal pals. May you continue to heal.
  • TelfordTelford Shipmate
    Perhaps @Telford is saying that everyone should slavishly obey every edict of the government without question and protest, because our governments have all the facts and data and work tirelessly and selflessly for the best interests of us all.

    I would disagree with that. I think he is saying that you should obey the rules that indicate what you shouldn't be doing. Things like eat out to help out are optional
  • Alan Cresswell Alan Cresswell Admin, 8th Day Host
    It didn't seem optional to restaurants, who could see this as a means to get back to serving people and employing staff, an option to have income rather than continue to pay out costs of running a business without customers (OK, most of them had some income from delivery/take out ... but not enough to cover their costs). And, as a scheme aimed at the public it created an impression that the coronavirus was beaten and that it was safe to go out for a meal, indeed the scheme encouraged people to do that.
  • Telford wrote: »
    Perhaps @Telford is saying that everyone should slavishly obey every edict of the government without question and protest, because our governments have all the facts and data and work tirelessly and selflessly for the best interests of us all.

    I would disagree with that. I think he is saying that you should obey the rules that indicate what you shouldn't be doing. Things like eat out to help out are optional

    The problem seems to be that there are Rules, which have the force of Law, and there is also Guidance, which doesn't.
  • Sorry to double-post, but this seems (sort of) apposite:

    Would it not be easier in that case for the government to dissolve the people, and elect another?

    (Bertolt Brecht)
  • Doc TorDoc Tor Admin Emeritus
    Greenbelt has cancelled for another year - mainly due to the lack of movement from this particularly incompetent government regarding insurance.
  • Bishops FingerBishops Finger Shipmate
    edited May 2021
    Is this a sort of semi-hidden persecution of people who are likely to be opposed to this *government*?

    After all, we can't have large numbers of people singing revolutionary songs, and listening to revolutionary sermons, can we?
  • Doc TorDoc Tor Admin Emeritus
    We'll see if Glyndebourne is off, shall we?
  • Bishops FingerBishops Finger Shipmate
    edited May 2021
    :open_mouth:

    If it is off, would be Great and Unforgiveable Outrage!

    On a more serious note, I can appreciate that events involving large crowds are, perhaps, not such a Good Idea - at least, for now.
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