Coping in the Time of Covid-19 - New and Improved!

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  • What are the vulnerable supposed to do after "Freedom Day"? As far as I can see, they need to shield again, but is there any official advice?
  • I've not seen any.

    The government attitude seems to be *We don't care any more. It's up to you - if you get The Plague, it'll be your own fault, whatever.*
  • @quetzalcoatl - here's a comment from today's Guardian:
    https://theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jul/10/covid-freedom-day-clinically-vulnerable-people-face-masks-england

    As you say, looks like more shielding may be needed...
    :disappointed:
  • la vie en rougela vie en rouge Circus Host, 8th Day Host
    @Dormouse if it's any comfort, it sounds like the French are being quite cautious about relaxing regulations. I don't think face masks are about to disappear in closed spaces any time soon. Around here, I get the impression that people are so used to wearing them that they keep them on even when they don't have to.

    I am currently looking into the matter for my parents, and arrivals from the UK are subject to stricter rules than other amber list countries - to avoid quarantine you must be double vaccinated AND have a negative test.

    The President of the Republic is taking to the airwaves on Monday, so we'll see what happens. It's rather suspected that some rules may be tightened, especially for the unvaccinated.
  • I don't want to cast any nasturtiums, but when we went out to a restaurant* on Thursday night, the chap at the next table had booked under the name of Andy Capp...

    As Mr S pointed out, the woman he was with was definitely not Flo!

    * the first time in forever!
  • No doubt Mr A Hitler, Mr M Mouse et al are on restaurant lists somewhere...
    :grimace:

    I wonder if Mr A Capp was out with someone he shouldn't really have been out with?
    :naughty:
  • Leorning CnihtLeorning Cniht Shipmate
    edited July 10
    There is little you can do other than mask wearing and hygiene, and attempting to keep some distance. It is a respiratory disease and is airborne so masks and distance are most important

    Masks are important, but where cloth masks are important is on the face of the person with Covid. They are only very weakly useful on the face of someone who wishes to avoid being infected.

    I know quite a few people here in the US who are happy to talk to people outside with no mask, but insist that the small number of people who enter their homes wear masks. I don't know what @Dormouse teaches, and whether insisting that their students wear masks is an option.

    What can you do, in practice? You can probably choose to avoid crowded indoor places (don't frequent busy pubs etc.), but it's not in practice possible to unilaterally maintain 6 feet of distance from people in queues, supermarkets, and the like, because you can pretty much guarantee that someone will walk into your space.

    And don't forget that it's not just distance - it's distance and time.
  • We need to invest in these (even better if they make one as a face mask). Spread the message far and wide.
  • Hmm. Wearing such a T-shirt might invite a fist in the face, from some of our local covidiots, at least...
    :disappointed:
  • DooneDoone Shipmate
    We need to invest in these (even better if they make one as a face mask). Spread the message far and wide.

    Love it!
  • Hmm. Wearing such a T-shirt might invite a fist in the face, from some of our local covidiots, at least...
    :disappointed:
    Then you'll have won the moral high ground and they're admitting that they can't argue against doing what Mr Johnson and his government have told everyone to do - to be responsible and sensible. Violence is the last resort of someone who has already lost.
  • Hmm. Wearing such a T-shirt might invite a fist in the face, from some of our local covidiots, at least...
    :disappointed:
    Then you'll have won the moral high ground and they're admitting that they can't argue against doing what Mr Johnson and his government have told everyone to do - to be responsible and sensible. Violence is the last resort of someone who has already lost.

    :lol:

    Quite so, but I might also have acquired a broken Nose (and mine really would not look better for it).

    :wink:
  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    Love the Freddie t-shirt - anyone else now have a seriously good earworm? :mrgreen:
  • la vie en rougela vie en rouge Circus Host, 8th Day Host
    I know quite a few people here in the US who are happy to talk to people outside with no mask, but insist that the small number of people who enter their homes wear masks. I don't know what @Dormouse teaches, and whether insisting that their students wear masks is an option.

    Dormouse is more than within her rights to insist on a mask. In France it's the law that masks must be worn in basically all indoor spaces that aren't your own home. Until quite recently they were compulsory outdoors as well. Most people are compliant (in my building everyone wears them in the lift, for example).
  • BoogieBoogie Shipmate
    My friend’s daughter has the virus. She’s a fit, sporty thirteen year old and she’s poorly with it.

    🙁
  • It is weird here. We drove across the border to New York last week and were checked by maskless border guards who were not interested in tests, vaccinations or anything - easiest border crossing ever. Going back to Canada we were supposed to have used a phone app called ArriveCan that didn't work on our phones and it was almost ArriveCan't. But something had changed that day and we were allowed a day's grace and sent through to the public health testing station. First we had to call the NY clinic where we'd had tests a few days before, and mercifully got through to a human who told us the negative results had just come through, which the official graciously accepted. The it was the up-your-nose test, and we were allowed on our way home, with the assurance that quarantine and more tests, as of that day, were no longer needed. Now we are getting daily e-mails and calls telling us to arrange for on-line supervised tests, despite one of the e-mails telling us it's no longer needed. Oy vey! Enough!
  • HuiaHuia Shipmate
    The NZ Navy has been given the task of delivering sufficient doses of Pfizer to the Tokelau Islands to vaccinate the eligible population. This will be a non-contact delivery.
  • SojournerSojourner Shipmate
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  • Scotland, being led by a responsible grown-up rather than an overgrown schoolboy, is being rather more circumspect about Freedom Day (19th July):
    https://theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/jul/13/scotland-to-move-to-level-zero-covid-restrictions-from-19-july
  • la vie en rougela vie en rouge Circus Host, 8th Day Host
    I think @Dormouse can be reassured about the situation in France. The President's approach is essentially to make life as complicated and inconvenient as possible for anyone who refuses to be vaccinated at the first available opportunity. Apparently last night 20000 people per minute were connecting to the main medical booking site.
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