Heaven: 2022 Soup of the Day

FirenzeFirenze Shipmate, Host Emeritus
edited August 2022 in Limbo
Season of mists and mellow fruitfulness and impromptu soups.

Some fridge/cupboard clearers are worth remembering, some are awful-ish warnings.

What have you ensouped, and how would you rate it? (out of 10) Would it have been better if...?

We may even come up with the Ultimate SofF winter warmer.

So, today I made Chicken, Parsnip and Baby Corn (with a dash of curry powder). Not bad, but next time lose the corn, substitute a veg that will go nicely soft like the parsnip. 5/10
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  • I have not ensouped anything myself, preferring to rely on Mr Co Op and Mr Tess Coe to do it for me, but I do tend to add a dash of Marmite (O, all right - a large teaspoonful) to tomato soup, and some black pepper or Worcester sauce to other soups.

    Maybe my palate is getting jaded as I get older, but ISTM that a lot of tinned soup is rather lacking in flavour, or something.

    Our late Churchwarden (RIPARIG) was once in the catering business, and was famous for his home-made vegetable soup. He sometimes would bring some along for a bread-and-soup lunch after a Saturday morning cleaning-the-church, or whatever. The soup really needed a knife and fork, as well as a spoon, as it was so thick (and delicious!).
  • FirenzeFirenze Shipmate, Host Emeritus
    Agree that packet/tinned soups usually need some enlivening. But there are some readymade ingredients I use a lot - not least Tom Yum stock cubes.

    Yesterday was Tom Yum Chicken. Stock, diced chicken, baby corn, sugar snaps, fresh chilli, fresh ginger. Leave out the chilli and ginger, sub julienned carrot. Add coconut milk. 6/10
  • One soup I make a lot is cavalo nero (also known as black kale) soup - it's good enough to welcome cavalo nero arriving in the veg box. Sweated onion and garlic, when cooked transparent, add a large potato in 1cm cubes. When that's cooking add stock. Cook 10 minutes then add chopped cavalo nero and fresh herbs (parsley, thyme, etc) and cook another 10 minutes. It can be liquidised before the last stage, which is adding a can of drained rinsed haricot or butter beans and warming through. My daughter who doesn't like soup (as it's difficult to swallow), likes this one as it could almost be eaten with a fork.
  • Carrot and beetroot is a glorious colour. Add a swirl of cream and a green garnish (parsley or chives) for added pizzazz
  • [marmite in tomato soup is a new one for me!]
  • PomonaPomona Shipmate
    @Firenze - pumpkin or winter squash would go well with chicken and parsnips. Or maybe leeks? I am not keen on parsnips but I love chicken and leek soup.

    @Bishops Finger we do actually lose taste buds as we age - likewise, children have the most tastebuds which is why they often prefer plainer food. I do find that packet soup is more flavoursome than tinned soup. Tinned and packet soup can often be perked up better by adding something acidic rather than (or as well as) salty - balsamic or red wine vinegar in tomato soup, lemon juice or white wine vinegar in chicken soup, lime juice in Thai curry soup or pumpkin soup etc. Although to be honest, a good balsamic or sherry vinegar goes with pretty much any soup.

    (Also as an aside, I had lived here for 18 months or so and walked the same journey many times before I discovered that the 'season of mists and mellow fruitfulness' poem was inspired by Keats' walk through the water meadows in Winchester from the town centre to the almshouse of St Cross.)
  • PomonaPomona Shipmate
    Firenze wrote: »
    Agree that packet/tinned soups usually need some enlivening. But there are some readymade ingredients I use a lot - not least Tom Yum stock cubes.

    Yesterday was Tom Yum Chicken. Stock, diced chicken, baby corn, sugar snaps, fresh chilli, fresh ginger. Leave out the chilli and ginger, sub julienned carrot. Add coconut milk. 6/10

    This sounds like tom kha gai.
  • MarthaMartha Shipmate
    I make soup for my cafe and it always goes down well. I'm amazed that a few vegetables and pulses, cooked and whizzed up, come out so much more than the sum of their parts! We made Thai butternut squash soup yesterday. Carrot and orange is popular, and spicy lentil or chickpea soups.
  • FirenzeFirenze Shipmate, Host Emeritus
    I've noticed liquidising soups can transform them. Except potato/sweet potato which turn into a kind of glue. 2/10
  • About eight years ago I developed stomach problems, and while I can eat pretty much everything that I did before, I'm better off eating smaller quantities more frequently. To deal with that, and, at the time, working from home, I got into the habit of keeping a large pot of soup in the fridge all the time, and heating only as much as I need at a time. The system works well. Tomorrow's project: (Phase 1) in the morning make a base with raw and smoked pork hocks for (Phase 2) the afternoon a Polish cabbage soup. All very peasanty ingredients: cabbage, potatoes, tomatoes, onions, carrots, garlic, salt, pepper, caraway seeds, allspice berries, bay leaf, vinegar. I'd use sour kraut as well, but don't have any on hand. I bought some Polish beer during my shop, because, you know...
  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    Ooh ... a thread about making SOUP - one of the most therapeutic kitchen activities known to man (and piglet)!

    One of the nicest soups I've ever made I sadly can't replicate now, as the main ingredient - fiddlehead ferns - is AFAIK not available here. :cry: I've also had considerable success with celery soup; in fact I'd say it was the best use for celery, as I'm not wild about its texture when it's left whole.

    David loved soup, especially my default vegetable broth (which he referred to as "just soup") - potatoes, carrots, onions and soup-mix pulses with a few dried herbs in chicken stock - a very comforting bowlful.

    I think I must hie me to Tesco's tomorrow and get some ingredients - I can feel a pot of something coming on ...

  • My clean-out refrigerator soup always works out well. I start by browning onions, garlic, and then dump whatever needs to be eaten soon from there. Depending on the rest of the ingredients I go Italian with canned beans and pasta, or Asian with soy sauce, and coconut milk, and spices, or leftover chicken and make noodles. The list goes on endlessly. It really is hard to mess up the soup.
  • MaryLouiseMaryLouise Shipmate, Host Emeritus
    edited October 2021
    @Piglet I'm another fan of using fiddlehead ferns (mostly bracken ferns) in soup. Friends in the United States often make fiddlehead soups and sauces with ostrich fern or shield fern. The rule is to cook them well because they can be toxic in larger quantities.

    It is spring here and foraging is popular after good winter rains: we have waterblommetjie soups from an aqueous pond plant, Oxalis from wild Cape sorrel, wild asparagus or veldkool, wild garlic (Tulbaghia) and dune spinach (Tetragonia). Not commercially available for the most part except for edible seaweeds and semi-wild nettles.
  • EnochEnoch Shipmate
    A pumpkin makes a good soup, the only thing IMHO it's much good for. As a soup it has a pleasant delicate flavour which seems to be inaccessible in any other way of cooking it.

    Marmite goes well in a mushroom soup, but don't add too much.

    It has to be handled with care as it tends to curdle into lumps, but I've hardly found any tinned or packet soup that isn't improved by adding a dollop of yoghurt.

    I must admit I've never heard of eating ferns or bracken. I thought they were either poisonous or carcinogenic but not sure which.

  • I've never been much of a soup-maker, but since I started working from home I have developed a good line in noodle soups. Break up a packet of instant noodles and put into water, add tinned tomato and/or coconut milk, or vegetable stock, the spice/oil packet that comes with the noodles, whatever other spices take my fancy, vegetables, maybe beans of some kind. Perhaps boil an egg separately and then slice into quarters and stick on the top when it's in its bowl.

    'Ensouped' is a BRILLIANT word, btw
  • PomonaPomona Shipmate
    Rachel Roddy's potato and porcini soup is a great Autumnal one - she has a lot of good peasanty 'cucina povera' type soups. Bean and pasta soups, that sort of thing.
  • jedijudyjedijudy Heaven Host
    Soup is one of my favorite things to make and to eat. When Daughter-Unit was small, that's how I snuck veggies into her. She loved (and still loves) soup.

    My latest was a big pot of minestrone which has made easy lunches for me. (I would have it for dinner too, but can't eat tomato-y things after 2:00...which is such a bother!!)

    A friend gave me her potato-leek recipe recently. I think that will be the next pot on the stove!

    And, it really just stays hot here most of the year, so I don't bother waiting for the weather to cool. Soup is a year round meal for me!
  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    Pot of Just Soup duly made and partially consumed - there's plenty left for tomorrow.
  • DoublethinkDoublethink Admin, 8th Day Host
    edited October 2021
    My daily soup is tetrapak gazpacho. But I have recently discovered shakshuka as a concept, which in my case means a tin of tomatoes heated up with whatever herbs and spices I fancy in it - with a few eggs cracked and poached on the top. I am not sure if it qualifies as a soup but it makes a great quick supper, it is perhaps less soup like if you reduce the tomatoey bit for longer. Some recipes have onion and other bits of goodness in.
  • FirenzeFirenze Shipmate, Host Emeritus
    Diced leftover steak in a tin of chipolte and bean. With extra (butter) beans. It occurs to me the butter bean could be the ideal partner to the parsnip. More of this anon.
  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    As I had a couple of things in the fridge that needed using, I made carrot, red pepper and lentil soup with them, sort of following a recipe on the interweb, but I added a little smoked paprika and ground coriander to give it a bit of a twist.

    It's not bad, but I think I could have been a little bolder with the spices (or possibly added some bacon) - it's not exactly exciting. 6/10

  • FirenzeFirenze Shipmate, Host Emeritus
    I did a fridge clear of neep, potato, carrot and onion plus some frozen stock of unknown composition. It barely qualified as soup, being more a bowl of stewed veg with a bit of juice. Quite tasty, but not more than a 6.

    Last week I did something similar but starring a large beetroot - found it didn't liquidise so much as sludgify.

    I think the moral is not too many root veg at once.
  • My lunch today was a beetroot soup from the freezer, which I really liked. I don't think it had much other than beetroot and onion in it, plus stock - I can't remember now as I made it a while ago. The beetroot was grated in the mix, and there were grated strands through the soup which weren't unpleasant, but I don't tend to liquidise soups, just try to chop the vegetables small enough to prevent them being a choke hazard.
  • Firenze wrote: »
    I did a fridge clear of neep, potato, carrot and onion plus some frozen stock of unknown composition. It barely qualified as soup, being more a bowl of stewed veg with a bit of juice. Quite tasty, but not more than a 6.

    Last week I did something similar but starring a large beetroot - found it didn't liquidise so much as sludgify.

    I think the moral is not too many root veg at once.

    Roasting the root veg first helps a lot, and adding some kind of acidic and/or spicy component. The beetroot soup sounds almost like a vegetarian borscht, which often has horseradish and some kind of pickled vegetables added.
  • FirenzeFirenze Shipmate, Host Emeritus
    Roasting veg is almost invariably a good idea. Trouble is, I think Soup! about 15 minutes before lunchtime.
  • I make a root soup using finely diced parsnip, carrot and swede in similar quantities, added to a sweated onion then cooked in stock. The recipe suggests that it can be served as it comes, or liquidised, saving a few of the dice to serve, to give some texture.
  • I've never roasted my squash for butternut squash soup - just tossing it all in the pan - but the Guardian recommends doing so - Soddit I can't get the link to sort itself out. Google "Guardian Perfect Pumpkin Soup" - it's there!!
  • I made a soup recipe for lunch, sort of - the Riverford newsletter came with a suggestion for a butternut soup made with tomatoes, red pepper and harissa. Because the offspring isn't swallowing so well at the moment solid food is better, so I made the same mix into a risotto. Definitely worth trying as a soup mix. And yes, I did sweat the pumpkin in a pan before adding the rice and any stock.

    This recipe, @Dormouse?

  • Interesting to read the comments on roasting vegetables. With the exception of roast potatoes, I can't stand any of them, and choked on a pizza made by a friend the other day that was loaded with them - quite indigestible.

    Back to soup. A couple of weeks ago I made leek and potato soup with some giant leeks from the market, and it was delectable as usual (leeks lightly fried in olive oil, potatoes, garlic, a little ginger, pinch of red pepper flakes). The next week I tried the same thing, and it was foul. The only thing that may have been different was that I got distracted and fried the leeks a little longer than intended, and they started to brown. It's usually a foolproof recipe.
  • Gee DGee D Shipmate
    Firenze wrote: »
    I did a fridge clear of neep, potato, carrot and onion plus some frozen stock of unknown composition. It barely qualified as soup, being more a bowl of stewed veg with a bit of juice. Quite tasty, but not more than a 6.

    Surprised that it made a 6. Was it Elizabeth David who said that you can't expect to make a good soup with the contents of a storage cupboard clean-out?
  • FirenzeFirenze Shipmate, Host Emeritus
    Gee D wrote: »
    Firenze wrote: »
    I did a fridge clear of neep, potato, carrot and onion plus some frozen stock of unknown composition. It barely qualified as soup, being more a bowl of stewed veg with a bit of juice. Quite tasty, but not more than a 6.

    Surprised that it made a 6. Was it Elizabeth David who said that you can't expect to make a good soup with the contents of a storage cupboard clean-out?

    It may have been, but if so, she was wrong. Some of my best soups have been serendipitous combinations of what is to hand. It is thus that we expand the frontiers of soupdom.

    Also, I suspect she didn't have t'internet to take her beyond a western Eurocentric cuisine.


  • This recipe, @Dormouse?

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    Yes that's it.
  • la vie en rougela vie en rouge Purgatory Host, Circus Host
    Leftover sauces are an excellent basis for ensoupment. Leeks, potatoes and the remains of the sauce from a coq au vin. Very tasty, but lost points on the aesthetics - the mixture of green leeks and purple sauce created a colour I think of as "swamp".
  • We had leek and potato soup for tea, with additional cheese, and very tasty it was.
  • Firenze wrote: »
    Gee D wrote: »
    Firenze wrote: »
    I did a fridge clear of neep, potato, carrot and onion plus some frozen stock of unknown composition. It barely qualified as soup, being more a bowl of stewed veg with a bit of juice. Quite tasty, but not more than a 6.

    Surprised that it made a 6. Was it Elizabeth David who said that you can't expect to make a good soup with the contents of a storage cupboard clean-out?

    It may have been, but if so, she was wrong. Some of my best soups have been serendipitous combinations of what is to hand. It is thus that we expand the frontiers of soupdom.

    Also, I suspect she didn't have t'internet to take her beyond a western Eurocentric cuisine.

    You would be surprised - well-heeled women of Elizabeth David's time had often been raised or spent a lot of time in the colonies in Africa or Asia. Elizabeth David worked for the British government in Cairo.
  • MaryLouiseMaryLouise Shipmate, Host Emeritus
    In Artemis Cooper's entertaining biography of Elizabeth David, she describes David's time in Delhi, India, in 1946 as the wife of a military officer. She loathed the flies, the heat and the harsh curries. I don't think the marriage was happy either. Much later in her life Elizabeth David included some Indian spiced dishes in her books, but she definitely preferred the cooking of the Mediterranean. In fairness, the cooking of the British Raj wasn't the fresher more complex food we've come to enjoy: I think David offers a peppery mulligatawny recipe from Colonel Kenny-Herbert who was popular as a cookbook author in Anglo-Indian circles.

    @Pomona although Elizabeth David moved in aristocratic and affluent circles, she was something of a renegade and prone to running off with unsuitable men, ending up broke and having to write her way back to solvency. A fascinating life.
  • I grew up eating various anglicised Indian recipes, including mulligatawny, that came from an old fashioned hard back book, I wonder if that was the book? It used more complicated spicing mixes than the curry I was supposed to cook at school in the 1970s, which just used curry powder. My curry was infinitely better than anyone else's because my mother looked at the ingredients she had to provide and made a curry paste adding in what she thought was missing, so I had curry paste not curry powder. (And then I started cooking from Madhur Jaffrey's books, which was different again.)

    I don't remember liking mulligatawny until I made it myself. And it still isn't a soup I'll make often.
  • Gee DGee D Shipmate
    I'd say it was a very entertaining biography. Ms David did not lead a demure or celibate life before Cairo, in it, or later. Get the book if you can.
  • Firenze wrote: »
    Gee D wrote: »
    Firenze wrote: »
    I did a fridge clear of neep, potato, carrot and onion plus some frozen stock of unknown composition. It barely qualified as soup, being more a bowl of stewed veg with a bit of juice. Quite tasty, but not more than a 6.

    Surprised that it made a 6. Was it Elizabeth David who said that you can't expect to make a good soup with the contents of a storage cupboard clean-out?

    It may have been, but if so, she was wrong. Some of my best soups have been serendipitous combinations of what is to hand. It is thus that we expand the frontiers of soupdom.

    Also, I suspect she didn't have t'internet to take her beyond a western Eurocentric cuisine.

    Elizabeth David’s take on the “ chuck in everything” pre-WW2 English stock pot is a joy to read; not to mention her description of “ fried eel nauseatingly served with sage” ( German style) and other horrors.

    A great read indeed. Her description of the bourgeoise family with whom she lodged in 1930s Paris is hilarious and descriptions of the food they ate had me salivating.

    I still have her French cookery book and enjoy reading it 40 years later. A good many recipes are burned into the memory.

  • MaryLouiseMaryLouise Shipmate, Host Emeritus
    I grew up eating various anglicised Indian recipes, including mulligatawny, that came from an old fashioned hard back book, I wonder if that was the book? It used more complicated spicing mixes than the curry I was supposed to cook at school in the 1970s, which just used curry powder. My curry was infinitely better than anyone else's because my mother looked at the ingredients she had to provide and made a curry paste adding in what she thought was missing, so I had curry paste not curry powder. (And then I started cooking from Madhur Jaffrey's books, which was different again.)

    I don't remember liking mulligatawny until I made it myself. And it still isn't a soup I'll make often.

    The jury's out here too on mulligatawny soup. Another fan of Maddhur Jaffrey, beginning with her World Vegetarian. Right now, I'm working my way through some Nik Sharma vegetarian recipes.
  • FirenzeFirenze Shipmate, Host Emeritus
    I still have the copy of French Country Cooking a friend gave me 50+ years ago. I still have the friend as well.

    It was by such texts that she and I moved beyond the food we'd been brought up - basic post-war meat+potato+(usually heavily boiled)veg and, since this was Ireland, a lot of soda bread.
  • Yup
  • Just made a leek and potato soup that might be the best I have ever made.

    I think the fact that all the veg came from my recent veg box delivery (and therefore mostly from local farms) helped.

    Recipe was very much ‘make it up as you go along’. Onions and garlic, butter, diced potato, sweat it for 15 min. Then added salt and pepper, stock (I was out of veg stock cubes so used a chicken one, which might also have helped the flavour) and then milk. Simmered another 15 min, then pureed.

    I think the fact that I just came back into the kitchen slightly too late at the ‘sweating’ stage may have helped. Nothing was burnt but there were a few golden edges to some of the potatoes. Caramelisation = yum.

    It’s my Dad’s favourite, and he has such a hard life now looking after my Mum. I had planned to make it just for him, but after tasting it, we are definitely having some too!
  • Nothing like a chicken stock to lift a soup
  • Yes, I use chicken stock (Knorr stock pot) for most of my veggie recipes (obvs wouldn't if I was cooking for a vegetarian).
  • We tend to go to a cafe in a local country park for lunch on a Sunday as it is on our way home from church.
    The menu now includes home made soup. I have had a lovely tomato soup, a carrot and coriander soup which was more like porridge to look at (perhaps it needed to be liquidised as it was so thick) but tasted lovely, and a very green leek and potato soup. I think the proportion of potatoes to leeks was definitely wrong!
  • Firenze wrote: »
    It was by such texts that she and I moved beyond the food we'd been brought up - basic post-war meat+potato+(usually heavily boiled)veg and, since this was Ireland, a lot of soda bread.

    Apart from the soda bread that pretty much describes my upbringing in the 1970s - spag bol was exotic and a treat, and had to be served with spuds in some shape or form because Dad wouldn't have a meal without them! Mrs B tended to be the go-to, with her portion sizes based on miners back from a 12-hour shift down t'pit.

    My mother, thank god, has never stayed with us, but the only thing she'd recognise in our kitchen would be the "in case of war" level of stocking - she certainly wouldn't appreciate the number of things we whang the odd chilli into and I don't even want to imagine what she'd make of Madhur... Maybe it's a reaction to the Days of Stodge but I love to try new things.

    Hastily bringing us back on track, we usually keep a few tubs of soup in the freezer, usually made with the home-made stock it shares space with, as can't-be-arsed-to-cook reserves. Unlikely to be much parsnip soup this year as I only have the five in pipes, sowed the buggers three times and got zero plants bar those.
  • I love leek and potato soup but I'm not supposed to have alliums anymore as they're a trigger for my digestive woes - but I have found a very helpful probiotic so maybe that could be the dish to try them again in! I know that when sautéeing the leeks and onions, a small splash of white wine or cider vinegar gives a nice flavour and helps soften them without using a lot of oil or butter.
  • I was brought up on Lancashire Hot Pot, soaked up with cheap white sliced bread. All vegetables were boiled to death. It's hardly surprising that my parents died aged 64 and 71, from stomach cancer and bowel cancer (though the pipe smoking and whisky drinking probably didn't help with my father getting stomach cancer).
    Like Sandemaniac, I've reacted by being an adventurous cook who enjoys cooking - and I've taught my sons to cook (as a teenager I was expected to cook for my 4 older brothers if my parents were away).
  • FirenzeFirenze Shipmate, Host Emeritus
    As the only daughter I too was the default cook in the absence of my mother. The cooking I didn't mind, it was the being taken for granted that rankled.

    Meanwhile there is a bowl of chicken stock in the fridge needs to be done something with. I fancy something mild but with loads of umami, but not sure if I want Asian (chilli, ginger, spring onion, julienned veg) or Italian (tomato, orzo, spinach).
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