It seems to me that forward and backward are relative to the observer, with forward moving closer to you and backward further away, as when you move items to the back or front when overlapping them in a DTP package.
Georgia prosecutor seeks March trial date for Trump and 18 others in election case. I wonder if it will end up being that soon. I am sure Trump's legal team will try and push it forward.
No, they want it after the election.
It may be a long trial under the Georgia RICO law. I think I have heard the Fulton Prosecutor is still trying a RICO case that has gone on two years.
Yes, that is what I meant his lawyers would push the date forward until after the election.
I know we are talking about semantics here, but in my limited thesaurus, forward means to bring it ahead of the proposed date. Afterward means to put it behind the proposed date.
I would broadly concur, though I would say that if you are moving something further into the future you are pushing it back/backward.
I've always been confused by that particular terminological kit. If I think of the calendar days as a line of stationery things in front of me, and I change the day of the meeting from Tuesday to Friday, I'd say I'm pushing it forward.
But I guess if I think of the days as coming AT me, and I change the meeting from Tuesday to Friday, I'm pushing it back.
Must be a result of living down under.
Do you mean me? I've never been to Australia, or even the southern hemisphere in general.
Oops. My mistake. (I am working on a sermon talking about the reverse growing seasons this week)
"I was reliably informed Trump isn’t funding any of us who are indicted," said former Trump attorney Jenna Ellis on the social media platform X, formerly known as Twitter. "Would this change if he becomes the nominee? Why then, not now?"
Officials with the Trump campaign and the pro-Trump political action committee, Make America Great Again, Inc., have not publicly commented on Ellis' question. Trump has called on donors and supporters to help with his legal fees.
On the one hand no one should be surprised that Trump is stiffing people who worked for him. That's been his modus operandi since he was stiffing the contractors for his casinos and other properties. On the other hand Trump's current batch of underlings may have more leverage than your typical glazier from Paramus.
A Trump employee who monitored security cameras at Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate abruptly retracted his earlier grand jury testimony and implicated Trump and others in obstruction of justice just after switching from an attorney paid for by a Trump political action committee to a lawyer from the federal defender’s office in Washington, prosecutors said in a court filing Tuesday.
The aide — described as “Trump Employee 4” in public court filings but identified elsewhere as Yuscil Taveras — held the title of director of information technology at Mar-a-Lago. He initially testified to a grand jury in Washington, D.C., that he was unaware of any effort to erase the videos, but after getting the new attorney “immediately … retracted his prior false testimony” and detailed the alleged effort to tamper with evidence related to the investigation of the handling of classified information stored at Trump’s Florida home, the new submission said.
Yeah, Trump's practically begging them to seek a plea deal that puts him in prison and keeps them out. He might get away with it with some of the ideologues who can martyr themselves for him and grift off his supporters and the right wing media circuit for the next decade or so but when it's his employees I doubt he has done much to command their loyalty.
Yep. I may be missing something, but on its face, this seems incredibly foolish by Trump.
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Trump may be operating by the behavioral "muscle memory" of habits learned over a lifetime of impunity. Why not? It's worked for him for the last seventy-seven years.
He probably doesn't. Although that's probably a thread in its own right. However, he is using lots of PAC money to fund his only legal bills. And not sharing. The idea that PAC money can be diverted in this way is just another example of how screwed up American politics was before Trump.
Fulton County Jail will be a humbling experience for Trump. Processing is in one big room where a prisoner will be processed with other prisoners. That includes mug shot, fingerprinting, strip searched (including cavity check) and physical. That is assuming the Sheriff will keep his word that he will be processed like every other prisoner.
Fulton County jail has a notorious reputation for being unsafe, and unsanitary. Too bad, Trump is not having to stay overnight at this time.
On principle, prisons are not supposed to be physically punitive - and remand is supposed to be risk management for people who are at that time assumed innocent.
It is a good idea to distinguish between jail (held temporarily or serving a short term) and prison (serving a longer term).
I'm not sure such a distinction exists.
Reputable on-line dictionaries say it does. Though, in my experience, "jail" can be expanded to include prisons(eg. "Charles Manson belongs in jail"), but it doesn't go in the other direction(eg. "The cops picked up Uncle Jim drunk in the park, and he spent the night in prison" is not what something you'd say).
It's poetic justice knowing the one who kept saying "Lock her up" is the one who will be processed at the Fulton County jail today. I don't think he will see the inside of a cell today, but he will be a lot closer to one than Hillary will ever be.
It is a good idea to distinguish between jail (held temporarily or serving a short term) and prison (serving a longer term).
I'm not sure such a distinction exists.
Reputable on-line dictionaries say it does. Though, in my experience, "jail" can be expanded to include prisons(eg. "Charles Manson belongs in jail"), but it doesn't go in the other direction(eg. "The cops picked up Uncle Jim drunk in the park, and he spent the night in prison" is not what something you'd say).
And like everything else in the U.S. there are regional variations. For example, in Louisiana a "parish prison" is what would be called a "county jail" in other states. Still, for most Americans a jail is where people are imprisoned for pre-trial detention if they can't make bail or to serve short-term (usually 30 days or less, but again there are regional variations) misdemeanor sentences. Prison is where those convicted of felonies or more serious misdemeanors serve their sentences.
It is a good idea to distinguish between jail (held temporarily or serving a short term) and prison (serving a longer term).
I'm not sure such a distinction exists.
Reputable on-line dictionaries say it does. Though, in my experience, "jail" can be expanded to include prisons(eg. "Charles Manson belongs in jail"), but it doesn't go in the other direction(eg. "The cops picked up Uncle Jim drunk in the park, and he spent the night in prison" is not what something you'd say).
And like everything else in the U.S. there are regional variations. For example, in Louisiana a "parish prison" is what would be called a "county jail" in other states. Still, for most Americans a jail is where people are imprisoned for pre-trial detention if they can't make bail or to serve short-term (usually 30 days or less, but again there are regional variations) misdemeanor sentences. Prison is where those convicted of felonies or more serious misdemeanors serve their sentences.
All true, I'm sure. Though, on the other hand, "jailbird" is not usually used to mean someone who spends alot of time in pre-trial detention.
Meadows argued he should be allowed to avoid processing in the Fulton County election subversion case that has been brought against former President Donald Trump and 18 others ahead of a hearing scheduled Monday.
“(T)he clear statutory language for removing a criminal prosecution, does not support an injunction or temporary stay prohibiting District Attorney Willis’s enforcement or execution of the arrest warrant against Meadows,” Jones wrote.
In a separate order, Jones turned down Clark’s emergency request, which was more sweeping and argued that the entirety of the state court proceedings – including any attempt to arrest any of the 19 defendants who did not turn themselves in this week – should automatically be put on hold.
Willis told the federal court in court filings earlier Wednesday that it should not interfere in any efforts to arrest Meadows, calling his request for the court’s intervention “improper” and “baseless.”
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“The defendant seeks to avoid the inconvenience and unpleasantness of being arrested or subject to the mandatory state criminal process, but provides this court no legal basis to justify those ends,” Willis said in her filing in the Clark case.
“The hardship facing the defendant is no different than any other criminal defendant charged with a crime, including his co-defendants who have either already surrendered to Fulton County Authorities or have agreed to so surrender in the time allotted by the district attorney,” Willis’ office said of Meadows’ request to avoid being processed.
Meadows and Clark have until noon tomorrow (Eastern time) to surrender themselves in Fulton County.
Things may be happening more quickly than expected in Georgia. Indicted Trump co-conspirator Kenneth Chesebro (RICO violations, conspiracy to commit impersonating a public officer, three counts of conspiracy to commit forgery, conspiracy to commit false statements and writings, and conspiracy to commit filing false documents) has requested a speedy trial under Georgia's speedy trial law.
Lawyers for Kenneth Chesebro on Wednesday filed a motion demanding a speedy trial in the sweeping election interference racketeering prosecution of former President Donald Trump and his allies.
The aggressive filing from Chesebro — the legal equivalent of throwing a bomb into the case — could create a massive headache for Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis and attorneys for the other 18 defendants in the case. It could force Willis to try Chesebro by the end of December and scuttle her plans to prosecute all 19 defendants together.
I'm wondering what Chesebro's co-defendants think of this strategy, given their preference for delay. At any rate, District Attorney Fani Willis says she's ready to go to trial.
Without waiving any objection as to the sufficiency of Defendant Kenneth John Chesebro's filing, the State requests that this Court specially set the trial in this case to commence on October 23, 2023, which falls within the term of the "next succeeding regular court term" after the July-August, 2023 term of the Superior Court of Fulton County, Atlanta Judicial Circuit . . .
IANAL, but I think this translates as "bring it". The trial date will be set by a judge, but Willis seems prepared. This possibility has to have been gamed out by the DA's office. No mention has been made of what this means for trying all the defendants together.
Looks like Donald Trump (via his lawyers) is displeased with the prospect of a speedy trial.
President Trump respectfully puts the Court on notice that he opposes the State’s “motion for entry of pretrial scheduling order” and “motion to specially set trial.”
President Trump also alerts the Court that he will be filing a timely motion to sever his case from that of co-defendant Chesebro, who has filed a demand for speedy trial, or any other co-defendant who files such a demand.
Not terribly surprising. I wonder if any other defendants will follow Chesebro in demanding a speedy trial or if the Chese stands alone.
Trump has left Bedminster on his way to Georgia, allowing me to post this.
The devil went down to Georgia
He was looking for some votes to steal
He was in a bind ’cause he was way behind
He was lookin’ to make a deal
When he heard Brad Raffensperger
Was counting votes the way that he ought
He made a perfect phone call
And said “Boy, let me tell you what …
I guess you didn’t know it, but I’m the winner fair and true
And if you find some votes (14,000 ought to do)
Then we can get me crowned again, the way I ought to be,
And I won’t have to badger you to be a friend to me.”
But Brad had his recorder on
And Georgia said “No way,”
Now one peachy indictment’s
Headed bigly DT’s way.
One person on X-Twitter noticed that Trump's mugshot seems composed in the style of the late Stanley Kubrick.
"The Kubrick Stare" is one of director Stanley Kubrick's most recognizable directorial techniques. A method of shot composition where a character stares at the camera with a forward tilt, to convey to the audience that they are at the peak of their derangement
The comparison examples are from A Clockwork Orange, The Shining, and Full Metal Jacket. A non-X-Twitter analysis of this observation can be found here.
One person on X-Twitter noticed that Trump's mugshot seems composed in the style of the late Stanley Kubrick.
"The Kubrick Stare" is one of director Stanley Kubrick's most recognizable directorial techniques. A method of shot composition where a character stares at the camera with a forward tilt, to convey to the audience that they are at the peak of their derangement
The comparison examples are from A Clockwork Orange, The Shining, and Full Metal Jacket.
Sue Lyon's iconic lollipop-and-sunglasses shot in Lolita as well. Plus, Tom Cruise and Todd Fields at different points in Eyes Wide Shut.
None of whom were particularly deranged, and even Alex in ACO isn't so much deranged, as just horribly selfish. I tend to agree with Roger Ebert's comment in his rather dismissive review of FMJ, that the pose has little meaning beyond "Kubrick thinks that's an interesting way to film the human face."
(I liked FMJ alot more than Ebert did, but I do agree that people tend to overstate the thematic significance of Kubruck's visual repertoire.)
Inmate number P0113580 (Trump) is listed at 6 foot 3 inches, and weights 215 lbs. That means he has grown one inch and lost 45 lbs since leaving the White House. A number of professional athletes would love to have those measurements.
Inmate number P0113580 (Trump) is listed at 6 foot 3 inches, and weights 215 lbs. That means he has grown one inch and lost 45 lbs since leaving the White House. A number of professional athletes would love to have those measurements.
It has been noted that Trump P01135809's measurements on his inmate record (6' 3" and 215 lb.) are almost exactly the same as Muhammad Ali's the first time he fought Joe Frazier.
Inmate number P0113580 (Trump) is listed at 6 foot 3 inches, and weights 215 lbs. That means he has grown one inch and lost 45 lbs since leaving the White House. A number of professional athletes would love to have those measurements.
It has been noted that Trump P01135809's measurements on his inmate record (6' 3" and 215 lb.) are almost exactly the same as Muhammad Ali's the first time he fought Joe Frazier.
Same as mine, too, though I confess I’m really not quite sure what to do with that information.
I understand he was in and out in less than an hour, which leads me to ask - why did he have to attend a jail rather than police station to be arrested if he wasn’t going to be remanded in custody until trial ?
I understand he was in and out in less than an hour, which leads me to ask - why did he have to attend a jail rather than police station to be arrested if he wasn’t going to be remanded in custody until trial ?
Is the latter not dependent on him posting bail, so if he doesn't do that he gets locked up, hence why it's at the jail?
In the UK, possibly not in the USA, bail doesn’t necessarily involve money and being remanded in custody can be court ordered without the option of bail.
In the UK, possibly not in the USA, bail doesn’t necessarily involve money and being remanded in custody can be court ordered without the option of bail.
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Oops. My mistake. (I am working on a sermon talking about the reverse growing seasons this week)
Mr. Trump, this is not a witch hunt. It is more like a rattlesnake round up.
Because he can't go anywhere without being charged.
Terr8ble joke
On the one hand no one should be surprised that Trump is stiffing people who worked for him. That's been his modus operandi since he was stiffing the contractors for his casinos and other properties. On the other hand Trump's current batch of underlings may have more leverage than your typical glazier from Paramus.
AFZ
Trump may be operating by the behavioral "muscle memory" of habits learned over a lifetime of impunity. Why not? It's worked for him for the last seventy-seven years.
He probably doesn't. Although that's probably a thread in its own right. However, he is using lots of PAC money to fund his only legal bills. And not sharing. The idea that PAC money can be diverted in this way is just another example of how screwed up American politics was before Trump.
I'm betting DJT does the same, plus a thumbs-up.
Fulton County jail has a notorious reputation for being unsafe, and unsanitary. Too bad, Trump is not having to stay overnight at this time.
I am sorry, but this is too fun.
I'm not sure such a distinction exists.
Reputable on-line dictionaries say it does. Though, in my experience, "jail" can be expanded to include prisons(eg. "Charles Manson belongs in jail"), but it doesn't go in the other direction(eg. "The cops picked up Uncle Jim drunk in the park, and he spent the night in prison" is not what something you'd say).
And like everything else in the U.S. there are regional variations. For example, in Louisiana a "parish prison" is what would be called a "county jail" in other states. Still, for most Americans a jail is where people are imprisoned for pre-trial detention if they can't make bail or to serve short-term (usually 30 days or less, but again there are regional variations) misdemeanor sentences. Prison is where those convicted of felonies or more serious misdemeanors serve their sentences.
All true, I'm sure. Though, on the other hand, "jailbird" is not usually used to mean someone who spends alot of time in pre-trial detention.
Meadows and Clark have until noon tomorrow (Eastern time) to surrender themselves in Fulton County.
I'm wondering what Chesebro's co-defendants think of this strategy, given their preference for delay. At any rate, District Attorney Fani Willis says she's ready to go to trial.
IANAL, but I think this translates as "bring it". The trial date will be set by a judge, but Willis seems prepared. This possibility has to have been gamed out by the DA's office. No mention has been made of what this means for trying all the defendants together.
Not terribly surprising. I wonder if any other defendants will follow Chesebro in demanding a speedy trial or if the Chese stands alone.
This is one of those times I really miss the old “not worthy” emoji.
(Following this via The Guardian.)
It's actually a scowl, with a Kubrick Stare.
Well, it was particularly well done for the mug shot. Would you say it was dyed blonde or strawberry?
Full of shit?
The comparison examples are from A Clockwork Orange, The Shining, and Full Metal Jacket. A non-X-Twitter analysis of this observation can be found here.
Sue Lyon's iconic lollipop-and-sunglasses shot in Lolita as well. Plus, Tom Cruise and Todd Fields at different points in Eyes Wide Shut.
None of whom were particularly deranged, and even Alex in ACO isn't so much deranged, as just horribly selfish. I tend to agree with Roger Ebert's comment in his rather dismissive review of FMJ, that the pose has little meaning beyond "Kubrick thinks that's an interesting way to film the human face."
(I liked FMJ alot more than Ebert did, but I do agree that people tend to overstate the thematic significance of Kubruck's visual repertoire.)
It has been noted that Trump P01135809's measurements on his inmate record (6' 3" and 215 lb.) are almost exactly the same as Muhammad Ali's the first time he fought Joe Frazier.
Is the latter not dependent on him posting bail, so if he doesn't do that he gets locked up, hence why it's at the jail?
Georgia has cash bail, Trump's was $200k