Heaven 2023: Ship of Fools Book Group - 2023 Edition

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  • SarasaSarasa All Saints Host
    edited July 2023
    Bumping this up again ahead of it being August tomorrow and therefore a new book club choice. We still need a book for December, and I'd still like to step down from the role of co-ordinating the book club next year.

    July The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie by Muriel Spark, led by @North East Quine
    August King Solomon's Carpet led by @Fineline
    September The Tenant of Wildfell Hall [/]by Anne Bronte, led by @Tukai
    October The Promise by Damon Galgut, led by @MaryLouise
    November The Little White Horse by Elizabeth Gouge, led by @Nenya.
    December ?
  • finelinefineline Shipmate, Host Emeritus
    Oh, thank you - I was just wondering which month mine was in. I will make a thread. The author of the book is Barbara Vine, by the way.
  • CaissaCaissa Shipmate
    Sarasa, I sent you a pm.
  • SarasaSarasa All Saints Host
    Amended Book list

    July The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie by Muriel Spark, led by @North East Quine
    August King Solomon's Carpet by Barbara Vine led by @Fineline
    September The Tenant of Wildfell Hall [/]by Anne Bronte, led by @Tukai
    October The Promise by Damon Galgut, led by @MaryLouise
    November The Little White Horse by Elizabeth Gouge, led by @Nenya.
    December ?

    Thanks for pointing out I'd missed putting down the author of next book. I haven't read a Vine in years, but have enjoyed the ones I have read so looking forward to it.
  • AravisAravis Shipmate
    I can’t think of many novels for adults with Christmas themes. All that comes to mind is a selection of children’s books - “The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe”, Arthur Ransome’s “Winter Holiday” and Susan Cooper’s “The Dark is Rising” (that might be a good one actually). The first few chapters of “Little Women”.
  • Aravis wrote: »
    I can’t think of many novels for adults with Christmas themes. All that comes to mind is a selection of children’s books - “The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe”, Arthur Ransome’s “Winter Holiday” and Susan Cooper’s “The Dark is Rising” (that might be a good one actually). The first few chapters of “Little Women”.
    The Dark is Rising is a great book, as is the whole series.

    One Christmas book with a different twist is Certain Poor Shepherds by Elizabeth Marshall Thomas, who also wrote The Hidden Life of Dogs. It tells the story of a sheep, a dog and a goat who see (and smell) the star, and who follow where it leads. The story is as much or more about animals as about Christmas, and these are definitely not anthropomorphic animals.

    It’s not a heavy read (which may be just as well in December) and it’s not at all sentimental, but it does come at a familiar story from a very different and, I thought when I read it many years ago, interesting angle.

  • MiliMili Shipmate
    I tried finding a Christmas themed novels online, but most suggestions were Hallmark style romance novels. Too sugary and formulaic for book club.
  • NenyaNenya All Saints Host, Ecclesiantics & MW Host
    Nick Tamen wrote: »
    Aravis wrote: »
    I can’t think of many novels for adults with Christmas themes. All that comes to mind is a selection of children’s books - “The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe”, Arthur Ransome’s “Winter Holiday” and Susan Cooper’s “The Dark is Rising” (that might be a good one actually). The first few chapters of “Little Women”.
    The Dark is Rising is a great book, as is the whole series.

    One Christmas book with a different twist is Certain Poor Shepherds by Elizabeth Marshall Thomas, who also wrote The Hidden Life of Dogs. It tells the story of a sheep, a dog and a goat who see (and smell) the star, and who follow where it leads. The story is as much or more about animals as about Christmas, and these are definitely not anthropomorphic animals.

    I haven't read Certain Poor Shepherds and it sounds good; my only concern would be getting hold of a copy, given the trouble I've had trying to source the current book. Having said that, it looks as though it's a book that would be nice to own, if we did decide to do it.

    We did Little Women last Christmas but I'd be up for any of the others that @Aravis lists.
  • SarasaSarasa All Saints Host
    A couple of Christmas books I like that are both very sort and aimed at children, though enjoyable for all ages are:
    The Thirteen Days of Christmas by Jenny Overton and I saw Three Ships by Elizabeth Gouge. I think doing two books by the same author back to abck is probably not a good idea though.
    I think we did The Dark is Rising a few years back.
  • SarasaSarasa All Saints Host
    oops that should be short not sort!
  • If short is desired—and maybe it should be in December—there’s Truman Capote’s A Christmas Memory.

    Not short exactly, but made up of chapters that read like short stories, is Jean Shepherd’s In God We Trust: All Others Pay Cash. (The movie “A Christmas Story” is based on it.)

  • SarasaSarasa All Saints Host
    I'm very happy to announce that @Caissa has offered to take over the running of the book group next year. I've enjoyed doing it, but various other commitments mean I haven't got the time to do it properly anymore. I'll be stepping down at the end of the year.
    Keep the Christmas suggestions coming.
  • jedijudyjedijudy Heaven Host
    @Sarasa I very much appreciate your dedication to this Book Group! And thank you @Caissa for offering to take over in the new year!
  • MiliMili Shipmate
    Thanks for all your present and past work running the group Sarasa and thanks Caissa for volunteering to run the group next year.
  • finelinefineline Shipmate, Host Emeritus
    Thanks, @Sarasa, for running this group for so long - it's one of my favourite things in the Ship. And thanks, @Caissa, for volunteering to take over for next year.
  • Thank you for looking after this thread for so long @Sarasa . And thank you @Caissa for keeping it going. I’m glad that the ship book group has been and will be in good hands.
  • TrudyTrudy Shipmate, Host Emeritus
    I like this idea! And thanks both to @Sarasa and to @Caissa !
  • TrudyTrudy Shipmate, Host Emeritus
    Discussion of potential discussion leaders and books for next year has now been moved to a new thread.
  • CaissaCaissa Shipmate
    Has any thought ever been given to doing a Hannukah themed book during a December?
  • MaryLouiseMaryLouise Shipmate, Host Emeritus
    October's book is Damon Galgut's The Promise and I'll be opening a thread for that tomorrow.
  • NenyaNenya All Saints Host, Ecclesiantics & MW Host
    Good thing I checked here as I was merrily thinking I was leading on The Little White Horse in December and have just realised it is in November! Fortunately I have been rereading it anyway, as a welcome relief from the tedium of my current real-life book club book.

    I don't think we've settled on a December choice?
  • SarasaSarasa All Saints Host
    Just bumping this up as it's November tomorrow.
    We haven't got a December choice yet. Any thoughts on a Hannukah themed one @Caissa?
  • CaissaCaissa Shipmate
    This links takes one to a list of Hanukkah mystery books. https://cozy-mystery.com/hanukkah-mystery-book-list.html Anything grab anybody? I am sure I own and have read the Jane Haddam novel.
  • NenyaNenya All Saints Host, Ecclesiantics & MW Host
    I am not up for anything murder-mystery-ish. It's not my preferred genre and I've read enough (for me) of it this year both here and in my real-life book club.

    But don't go by me: I am not yet sure how December is going to look for me for reading. The easy options for me from the suggestions above would be The Lion, The Witch and The Wardrobe or Winter Holiday - haven't reread the latter for years - but people probably wouldn't want to do another "children's" book straight after The Little White Horse.
  • I found this one in a list of books recommended to be read during Hanukkah.

    The Frozen Rabbi by Steve Stern.

    Hanukkah is a holiday celebrating a miracle. The miracle of the oil is a fantastical story that the rabbinical tradition felt the need to tack onto this commemoration of a miraculous military victory. So, I wanted to include something that had a miraculous quality to it; The Frozen Rabbi certainly does.

    It’s a hilarious novel based on a fantastic premise. A Jewish teen in Tennessee, looking for hamburgers, discovers a 19th-century rabbi in his family’s deep freezer. Then there’s a power failure. The rabbi defrosts and it’s just hilarious. It becomes a story about the history of Jews in diaspora and about how the past haunts us. The Frozen Rabbi really captures that miraculous element of Hanukkah and the way all Jewish holidays tie modern people to an ancient past.
  • TrudyTrudy Shipmate, Host Emeritus
    The premise, at least, sounds intriguing to me!
  • SarasaSarasa All Saints Host
    I quite like the idea of The Frozen Rabbi, but it would be good if someone read it first before we committed to a book that might not be as funny as the premise makes out.
    I was thinking about going for a slightly different idea for December's book club and instead sharing our favourite Christmas poetry. To get round copyright problems we'd need to post link to places we can find the poems we're recommending. What does everyone think?
  • We may want to select a December book soon or skip that month.
  • MiliMili Shipmate
    I just read Nathaniel Hawthorne's The Christmas Banquet to see if it was suitable, but think I found the most depressing Christmas story ever written! The premise is a yearly Christmas banquet for the most miserable people the stewards select and one man who is considered the most unfortunate of all. Interesting, but not a suitable Christmas read!
  • NenyaNenya All Saints Host, Ecclesiantics & MW Host
    I like the favourite Christmas poetry idea.
  • Nenya wrote: »
    I like the favourite Christmas poetry idea.

    Including some of U A Fanthorpe's lovely Christmas poems please!
  • MiliMili Shipmate
    Looks like poetry is the way to go. I realise some of the group are busy celebrating Thanksgiving and before we know it it will be Christmas, so fitting in a novel might be challenging.
  • SarasaSarasa All Saints Host
    Yes, I'll start a bring and share Christmas favourite's thread tomorrow.
  • MaryLouiseMaryLouise Shipmate, Host Emeritus
    Looking forward to that!
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