Thing I find funny is I don't think I even notice whether someone makes eye contact or not, which makes it interesting that people set such stock by it.
I'm struggling to write coherently on this topic without letting the anger get out and say something I shouldn't in public.
I'm with you KoF. I know that as a late diagnosed autistic adult I have gained some advantages from being forced to confirm to societal norms. For example, I can fake "not autistic" when trying to influence people who don't like autistics. But the mental health damage done from spending my entire life until mid life blaming and beating myself up for my failures to be "normal" properly will probably never end. I imagine ABA would feel like that, and I struggle to see it as anything other than conversion therapy for autistics.
Thing I find funny is I don't think I even notice whether someone makes eye contact or not, which makes it interesting that people set such stock by it.
Best I can tell I'm ADHD but not autistic and absolutely same here. I was raised by autistic people and have a lot of them in the family I have built, so that may be why. But even in a culture with eye contact norms, I'm an allistic* person who just doesn't care if you make eye contact. Maybe we need ABA to train western allistic people learn not to expect eye contact? (joking, I wouldn't do ABA to anyone, even obnoxious allistic people.
Thing I find funny is I don't think I even notice whether someone makes eye contact or not, which makes it interesting that people set such stock by it.
Best I can tell I'm ADHD but not autistic and absolutely same here. I was raised by autistic people and have a lot of them in the family I have built, so that may be why. But even in a culture with eye contact norms, I'm an allistic* person who just doesn't care if you make eye contact. Maybe we need ABA to train western allistic people learn not to expect eye contact? (joking, I wouldn't do ABA to anyone, even obnoxious allistic people.
*not autistic
<<imagines a training programme for allistic people where they spend several hours really getting to grips with the correct way of arranging plastic dinosaurs. The correct way is of course chronologically, in case you were wondering.>>
Thing I find funny is I don't think I even notice whether someone makes eye contact or not, which makes it interesting that people set such stock by it.
Best I can tell I'm ADHD but not autistic and absolutely same here. I was raised by autistic people and have a lot of them in the family I have built, so that may be why. But even in a culture with eye contact norms, I'm an allistic* person who just doesn't care if you make eye contact. Maybe we need ABA to train western allistic people learn not to expect eye contact? (joking, I wouldn't do ABA to anyone, even obnoxious allistic people.
*not autistic
<<imagines a training programme for allistic people where they spend several hours really getting to grips with the correct way of arranging plastic dinosaurs. The correct way is of course chronologically, in case you were wondering.>>
There are people out there who don't get the problem with arranging a T rex and Stegosaurus such that they appear to be fighting.
Thing I find funny is I don't think I even notice whether someone makes eye contact or not, which makes it interesting that people set such stock by it.
Best I can tell I'm ADHD but not autistic and absolutely same here. I was raised by autistic people and have a lot of them in the family I have built, so that may be why. But even in a culture with eye contact norms, I'm an allistic* person who just doesn't care if you make eye contact. Maybe we need ABA to train western allistic people learn not to expect eye contact? (joking, I wouldn't do ABA to anyone, even obnoxious allistic people.
*not autistic
<<imagines a training programme for allistic people where they spend several hours really getting to grips with the correct way of arranging plastic dinosaurs. The correct way is of course chronologically, in case you were wondering.>>
There are people out there who don't get the problem with arranging a T rex and Stegosaurus such that they appear to be fighting.
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I'm with you KoF. I know that as a late diagnosed autistic adult I have gained some advantages from being forced to confirm to societal norms. For example, I can fake "not autistic" when trying to influence people who don't like autistics. But the mental health damage done from spending my entire life until mid life blaming and beating myself up for my failures to be "normal" properly will probably never end. I imagine ABA would feel like that, and I struggle to see it as anything other than conversion therapy for autistics.
Best I can tell I'm ADHD but not autistic and absolutely same here. I was raised by autistic people and have a lot of them in the family I have built, so that may be why. But even in a culture with eye contact norms, I'm an allistic* person who just doesn't care if you make eye contact. Maybe we need ABA to train western allistic people learn not to expect eye contact? (joking, I wouldn't do ABA to anyone, even obnoxious allistic people.
*not autistic
<<imagines a training programme for allistic people where they spend several hours really getting to grips with the correct way of arranging plastic dinosaurs. The correct way is of course chronologically, in case you were wondering.>>
There are people out there who don't get the problem with arranging a T rex and Stegosaurus such that they appear to be fighting.
What do they teach them in these schools?
Allosaurus faced Stegosaurus.
It must have stood us in good stead. We got through life.
All of those pairings are at least in the right time period.
By the time T. rex became extinct (66mya), Stegosaurus had already been extinct for 70my. This isn’t always fully appreciated.