Why do the wicked prosper?

HugalHugal Shipmate
edited April 2024 in Purgatory
It says in the Psalms
For I envied the arrogant when I saw the prosperity of the wicked. They have no struggles; their bodies are healthy and strong. They are free from the burdens common to man; they are not plagued by human ills. Therefore pride is their necklace; they clothe themselves with violence.

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Bible Gateway Psalm 73 :: NIV - MIT

With the likes of Johnson and Trump getting away with so much is this more true now than ever?

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  • BoogieBoogie Heaven Host
    Psychopaths do well in many walks of life because they simply don't care. No moral compass. No empathy. No ability to feel guilt. Happy to step on others to get where they want to be.

  • They sell their souls to the devil - the ruler of this world?
  • But by verse 18, after meditating in God's sanctuary, the Psalmist is predicting their downfall.
  • Their downfall is a long time coming, and it seems inevitable that they will drag the rest of us with them.
  • Slightly tangential, but it is tempting to wish upon the likes of Johnson, Trump, Putin, Netanyahu, and many others of that ilk, the fate of the King of Runazar:

    https://sacred-texts.com/neu/dun/tago/tago08.htm

  • Hugal wrote: »
    It says in the Psalms
    For I envied the arrogant when I saw the prosperity of the wicked. They have no struggles; their bodies are healthy and strong. They are free from the burdens common to man; they are not plagued by human ills. Therefore pride is their necklace; they clothe themselves with violence.

    https://web.mit.edu › www › cef
    Bible Gateway Psalm 73 :: NIV - MIT

    With the likes of Johnson and Trump getting away with so much is this more true now than ever?

    I think it's as true now as when it was first written. We know a lot more but we are the same bunch of brutal chimps for all that. I guess that the psalmist's (and our) natural envy of the rich and wicked is why that is the 'wide road which leads to destruction*'. And why the narrow path is hard to find.

    * - in this life, not necessarily their own destruction, as much as that of their victims. Still, we are to fear the One who deals with the soul, not those who can only kill the body.

    I'm great fun at parties.
  • DoublethinkDoublethink Admin, 8th Day Host
    I don’t know if you saw Honour Among Thieves - but what was refreshingly unusual about it was the affable cheerful villain played by High Laurie. People are used to villains being telegraphed.
  • Martin54Martin54 Suspended
    Do you mean High Grant?
  • DoublethinkDoublethink Admin, 8th Day Host
    edited April 2024
    Oops - I meant Hugh Grant.
  • Why should it be more true now than it was in 2024BCE or 224BCE or 24CE or 224CE or 2024CE?
  • Martin54Martin54 Suspended
    Why should it be more true now than it was in 2024BCE or 224BCE or 24CE or 224CE or 2024CE?

    'oo said it is?
  • Read the OP.

    '... is it more true now than ever?'

    No, of course it isn't.

    It's always been the case.
  • Martin54Martin54 Suspended
    Read the OP.

    '... is it more true now than ever?'

    No, of course it isn't.

    It's always been the case.

    Doh! I stopped at @mark_in_manchester. And yeah, it's always been thus.

    If you prosper, you're wicked.
  • Because they sell all their morality for prosperity.

    If being wealthy is what you are after, above all else, for many people, it is achievable. The portraits in their attic, however, are now just piles of rotted paint.

    One of the things the bible says in various ways and places is that real prosperity is about moral rightness. Being decent, honest person. It will not bring you comfort of money, but you will be a decent person, and people will not want to shit on your grave.
  • BoogieBoogie Heaven Host
    I don’t know if you saw Honour Among Thieves - but what was refreshingly unusual about it was the affable cheerful villain played by High Laurie. People are used to villains being telegraphed.

    Psychopath and sociopaths can do affable, cheerful, loving, kind etc when it suits them. But it’s all an act, they do not care.

    @mark_in_manchester said -
    I think it's as true now as when it was first written. We know a lot more but we are the same bunch of brutal chimps for all that. I guess that the psalmist's (and our) natural envy of the rich and wicked is why that is the 'wide road which leads to destruction*'. And why the narrow path is hard to find.

    Yes it is. But we aren’t all brutal, most of us are sociable, caring and kind - to those who are like us and to those who are not in our ‘tribe’.

    Our envy and fear of the rich and wicked is what allows them their power.


  • Fear maybe but envy? I would not be so sure.
  • There's a cartoon I saw in Peanuts many decades ago which addressed this. I may be misremembering but I think the gist was that the 'evil' prosper because they steal from the 'good'. Which may be an over literal and simplistic answer, but works for me.

  • KarlLBKarlLB Shipmate
    KoF wrote: »
    There's a cartoon I saw in Peanuts many decades ago which addressed this. I may be misremembering but I think the gist was that the 'evil' prosper because they steal from the 'good'. Which may be an over literal and simplistic answer, but works for me.

    The vast majority of evil is done not because the person who does it wants to do evil for its own sake, but because it benefits them. So, yes, the evil prosper because they're willing to do things that benefit them that other people wouldn't do.

    Anyone else watching/watched Kin on BBC1? It's a really good illustration I think. The crime family at the centre of it don't do all the terrible things they do just for the sake of it; they do it to fund their lifestyle and don't care about the harm they do.
  • Martin54Martin54 Suspended
    Yep. They're vampires on the poor. And it never comes home, they never have to step over the bundles of human misery they create on the street, or rather behind closed tenement doors. It's horribly fascinating about us how we want them to succeed, how we find them noble. Worthy. Sick aren't we?
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