Elementary school girl on bicycle hit and killed by school bus

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  • Nick TamenNick Tamen Shipmate
    edited October 2024
    stetson wrote: »
    I was wondering if there might be a connection between the wings of Hermes/Mercury and the wings of Christian angels, though going by the internet, Hermes wings are almost always portrayed as small ones on his headwear.
    I’d think the primary source of depicting angels with wings are the descriptions of cherubim and seraphim in the OT. That and general ancient Near Eastern cosmology.


  • Yes, I meant God - typo.
  • Alan29 wrote: »

    RCs are well used to visual depictions of Saints with halos and angels with wings and are unlikely to confuse the two.

    As I say, mileages vary. My RC church in Edmonton was decidedly low on the candle, with spartan iconography, I think just a modernist crucifix and a small statuette of St. Joseph, plus small stations of the cross that could each be held in one's hand, all done in a minimalist style with bone-white stone.

    If you spent your whole life in that church, there's a pretty good chance the only wings and halos you'd ever see would be in the mass media, with whatever degree of accuracy.

  • @Alan29
    When did angels become soft and cuddly?

    Blames the Romans? (Cupid)
  • Could it be God calls us as angels and we don't even know it until we experience the situation? There have been a number of times in my life I find myself in a situation where I have helped resolve a problem or challenge for someone in trouble.

    There was one time my father and I were hunting in the mountains. As the evening was coming, we returned to the car which we had parked in a camp owned by our church. The camp was closed for the year. No one was around. Unfortunately, the car would not start. The battery was dead. We had to hike to a nearby cabin we knew was occupied. When the man in the cabin answered our knock, we could tell he and his wife had been having a discussion. They were very willing to help us jump start the car, and then they followed us out of the woods to the main highway, where he flashed his lights as if he wanted to talk to us.

    He came to the car and told us about the discussion he and his wife had been having. It was about returning to church. He wanted to know about our denomination. We gave some information about the Lutheran Church. Since his cabin was miles away from any Lutheran Church, we suggested some alternatives and told him about the Lutheran Hour; This is many years before the internet. He did have a radio.

    To this day I think God used us as angels. And, in the case of the girl who was killed, I am thinking God someone like The Riv to be an angel to the family or to the community. We have already established no one wants to hear the bromide God wanted another angel. I have asked this before, but I did not hear an answer. @The_Riv how can you be an angel to the family?
  • Gramps49 wrote: »
    And, in the case of the girl who was killed, I am thinking God someone like The Riv to be an angel to the family or to the community. We have already established no one wants to hear the bromide God wanted another angel. I have asked this before, but I did not hear an answer. @The_Riv how can you be an angel to the family?
    You may have missed it, but there was an answer:
    The_Riv wrote: »

    It's a nice thought, but I don't know how people in their circumstance would feel about a complete stranger attempting that. If I'm honest, and it were me, I wouldn't want it -- at. all.
    I trust @The_Riv to understand the dynamics of the situation where he lives better than any of us might.


  • I appreciate vote of confidence, @Nick Tamen, but I don’t really feel as if I have my finger on the pulse of anything here.

    Like many parents, I love my children as much as I imagine anyone has ever loved theirs. I just know that if one of them were killed, there could be no angel of any kind that I could appreciate as anyone here has described. It’s just beyond my comprehension. Maybe that’s shortsighted or selfish or both, but I just can’t conceive a scenario in which my anonymous interjection into this tragedy would be helpful. And the last thing I’d want to do would be to cause any additional offense. I dunno.

    Plus, I’m embarrassed and decidedly dismissive about the mind-numbingly shallow and empty evangelicalism that dominates here. I’d be too weak to defend against quoting Riggs’ response to Murtaugh, close to the beginning of “Lethal Weapon:”

    Murtaugh: God hates me, that’s what it is.

    Riggs: Hate him back — it works for me.

    I’m just wrong for posing as any kind of messenger.
  • Alan29Alan29 Shipmate
    We stumble looking for ways to express ourselves in the face of tragedy.
    Best not to be harsh and judgemental.
  • @Gramps49 said,
    Could it be God calls us as angels and we don't even know it until we experience the situation? There have been a number of times in my life I find myself in a situation where I have helped resolve a problem or challenge for someone in trouble.

    If you mean in the sense of doing His will and such, I do believe He does that, but that’s not the same thing as making us an angel in the sense of a nonhuman spiritual entity which is beyond even being a different species.
  • Gramps49 wrote: »
    Could it be God calls us as angels and we don't even know it until we experience the situation? There have been a number of times in my life I find myself in a situation where I have helped resolve a problem or challenge for someone in trouble.

    Isn't that just being a decent person? Seems as if the supernatural isn't required.

  • The_RivThe_Riv Shipmate
    edited October 2024
    Here is the obituary of the little girl which was posted online late last night. The funeral home is less than 500m from the scene of the accident.
  • I have nothing more to say here. Perhaps, host, if we want to discuss angelology or -graphy further, a new thread is needed. In Purgatory perhaps?
  • The_Riv wrote: »
    Here is the obituary of the little girl which was posted online late last night. The funeral home is less than 500m from the scene of the accident.

    Prayers ascending. :( :votive: For her and for everyone affected by her death.
  • I would be interested in hearing the sermon at her Celebration of Life.
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