Crimes Against Tea

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  • Tang was/is a truly vile substance. And I shudder to remember the popularity in the 70s of “Russian Tea,” made with instant tea, Tang and some other things I don’t remember.


  • ChastMastrChastMastr Shipmate
    edited November 2024
    Nick Tamen wrote: »
    Tang was/is a truly vile substance. And I shudder to remember the popularity in the 70s of “Russian Tea,” made with instant tea, Tang and some other things I don’t remember.

    Well, I remember linking Tang as a kid, but then it is mostly sugar, and it had the mystique of being “astronaut food” back in the day. I have never heard of mixing Tang with anything until just this thread.

    https://youtu.be/vA4vZukxW3c?si=0SmTTAc3wN4CtFlc

    https://youtu.be/OdeJ41_TK90?si=bk-R5k1x_H7q9n8W
  • Oh god, let's talk about "Things that don't matter a single fraction of a fuck."
  • So, I will deeply offend a number of people here, because i am not a tea snob, but I do like my tea.

    I use teabags. And make my tea in the mug.

    I would however confirm a few points made above.

    1. The water has to be boiling. Proper boiling, not just below.
    2. The tea needs to be allowed to brew for longer than 30s. A few minutes, whatever the tea is.
    3. From out trip to the US earlier this year, kettles in hotels and suchlike are uncommon. And the Americans cannot make a decent cup of tea. And the coffee is ubiquitous, but also not what I expect (but that is another thread).
  • KarlLBKarlLB Shipmate
    edited November 2024
    KarlLB wrote: »
    We use long life all the time as fresh supplies don't always last. In tea I can't tell any difference.

    Gack. UHT milk is vile, and I absolutely taste the difference. It was always a trial, when I spent time in France, to locate fresh milk in the supermarket. As I recall, the milk I ended up buying in the local French supermarket described itself as "microfiltered". It required refrigeration, but was said to last longer than ordinary milk. That still tastes different from actual milk, but the taste is much closer to normal than UHT is.

    I have heard of people who keep long-life milk because they don't use much, so fresh would go off. That's not a problem I have - my household averages about a US gallon per day (a bit less now, because one of the cereal eaters is away at college.)

    I may be lucky - I've always disliked milk on its own, cream (including clotted) and very soft fresh cheese like mascarpone or ricotta mostly because they taste of almost absolutely nothing to me - which may be why UHT milk doesn’t bother me. I'm fine with them in things like Tiramisu but on their own - tasteless goo. Even things like Brie have to be virtually liquid before they taste of anything; raw Mozarella too - just texture and temperature - no flavour detected.

    It's odd because I have quite a sensitive sense of taste and smell for most things but milk/cream and so on - they only have any taste or smell once they've started to turn. I have milk in tea as it offsets the tannin in some way but I don’t actually taste it.
  • 3. From out trip to the US earlier this year, kettles in hotels and suchlike are uncommon. And the Americans cannot make a decent cup of tea. And the coffee is ubiquitous, but also not what I expect (but that is another thread).

    Fortunately, kettles in stores are relatively common. You can pick up an electric kettle in Target or Walmart or somewhere for less than $20. So if you're in the US for any length of time, purchasing a local kettle is not unreasonable, and it's much better than trying to boil water in the hotel room microwave!
  • mousethief wrote: »
    Oh god, let's talk about "Things that don't matter a single fraction of a fuck."

    Yes! Let’s do! ❤️
  • @KarlLB said,
    I have milk in tea as it offsets the tannin in some way but I don’t actually taste it.

    That reminds me—did you know that the author of the Wizard of Oz books drank so much tea that his friends called him “Old Tannin Baum”?

    Eh? Eh? 😅

    (This was a joke.)
  • 3. From out trip to the US earlier this year, kettles in hotels and suchlike are uncommon. And the Americans cannot make a decent cup of tea. And the coffee is ubiquitous, but also not what I expect (but that is another thread).

    Fortunately, kettles in stores are relatively common. You can pick up an electric kettle in Target or Walmart or somewhere for less than $20. So if you're in the US for any length of time, purchasing a local kettle is not unreasonable, and it's much better than trying to boil water in the hotel room microwave!

    We were moving around quite a lot (So we never knew what the next place might provide!), and out a lot in the day, so we managed, but it is a good suggestion.
  • BoogieBoogie Heaven Host
    edited November 2024
    mousethief wrote: »
    Oh god, let's talk about "Things that don't matter a single fraction of a fuck."

    Tea Matters!

    Every crisis in England is ameliorated with a 'nice cup of tea'.

    "Tea is a ritual that brings calm to the chaos of daily life "

    🙂
  • Boogie wrote: »
    mousethief wrote: »
    Oh god, let's talk about "Things that don't matter a single fraction of a fuck."

    Tea Matters!

    Every crisis in England is ameliorated with a 'nice cup of tea'.

    "Tea is a ritual that brings calm to the chaos of daily life "

    🙂

    If in doubt, brew up!
  • Indeed - my grandmother told the story of the mug of strong seet tea she was offered in the aftermath of one of the Blitz raids on London. She sat on the kerb outside the ruins of her house drinking tea and wondering if there was anything she could salvage. There wasn't much in her long, long life that couldn't be faced if she had 'a nice cup of tea'!
  • FirenzeFirenze Shipmate, Host Emeritus
    In Ireland no social occasion however fleeting is complete without 'a drop in your hand'.
  • Boogie wrote: »
    mousethief wrote: »
    Oh god, let's talk about "Things that don't matter a single fraction of a fuck."

    Tea Matters!

    Every crisis in England is ameliorated with a 'nice cup of tea'.

    "Tea is a ritual that brings calm to the chaos of daily life "

    🙂

    Cup of brown joy!

    https://youtu.be/eELH0ivexKA?si=CaSSpjcDT8_xzeJG
  • And of course, everything stops for tea.

    https://youtu.be/UksDKoCqbd4?si=2A6934kdnLZTws-3
  • ChastMastr wrote: »

    I wondered if it would be you or @Sandemaniac who posted that one :mrgreen:
  • EigonEigon Shipmate
    Who was it that said tea is the "cup that cheers but does not inebriate"?
    Was it someone like Hinge and Bracket?
  • Eigon wrote: »
    Who was it that said tea is the "cup that cheers but does not inebriate"?
    Was it someone like Hinge and Bracket?
    Would you believe Cowper?
  • EigonEigon Shipmate
    Golly!
  • I just made some white tea, and because of this thread, let the water cool a bit. So you see, the Ship has its uses!
  • DoublethinkDoublethink Admin, 8th Day Host
    Has anyone tried tea resin ?. This video randomly popped up for me and I was intrigued.
  • From St Sophrony of Essex, on a mug I have:

    "Stand at the very edge of the abyss and when you feel it is beyond your strength, break off and have a cup of tea."
  • As a treat, I have just been downstairs and brought myself a mug of tea back to bed.
    Mr P used to bring me one every day until he was too ill to do so, and it is something I really miss.
    To be specific, it has to be a china mug, and sorry, a teabag is used. For this first one of the day it is either Tetley’s or Yorkshire, but later for medical reasons it is now decaf, which I enjoy less. I have very little milk, but I don’t like my tea too strong. People comment that it looks like builders’ tea, but it is the amount of milk that determines the colour, not the strength of the tea. If no milk is available, black is ok, as long as it is very weak. I also enjoy Earl Grey occasionally.

    I have several china mugs, most of which have tiny chips now. I have a collection of thick mugs which Mr P used, some with his name on, or some apposite slogan, which I don’t ever use and I am reluctant to send them to a charity shop. For a special treat, or a guest, I love to use my china tea service, including a small tea pot, just enough for two cups.
    When I lived in France for a year, I was accommodated in a tiny room in a school. I bought a camping gas stove and a thin saucepan in which I boiled water - a bit of a risky process as the only flat surface was the floor. No fresh milk of course, and nowhere to store UHT anyway, so I had some powdered milk which was bearable. Tea bags again, as a bowl full of tea leaves would have been unpleasant.
    I never drink coffee.
  • Puzzler wrote: »
    As a treat, I have just been downstairs and brought myself a mug of tea back to bed.
    Mr P used to bring me one every day until he was too ill to do so, and it is something I really miss.
    To be specific, it has to be a china mug, and sorry, a teabag is used. For this first one of the day it is either Tetley’s or Yorkshire, but later for medical reasons it is now decaf, which I enjoy less. I have very little milk, but I don’t like my tea too strong. People comment that it looks like builders’ tea, but it is the amount of milk that determines the colour, not the strength of the tea. If no milk is available, black is ok, as long as it is very weak. I also enjoy Earl Grey occasionally.

    I have several china mugs, most of which have tiny chips now. I have a collection of thick mugs which Mr P used, some with his name on, or some apposite slogan, which I don’t ever use and I am reluctant to send them to a charity shop. For a special treat, or a guest, I love to use my china tea service, including a small tea pot, just enough for two cups.
    When I lived in France for a year, I was accommodated in a tiny room in a school. I bought a camping gas stove and a thin saucepan in which I boiled water - a bit of a risky process as the only flat surface was the floor. No fresh milk of course, and nowhere to store UHT anyway, so I had some powdered milk which was bearable. Tea bags again, as a bowl full of tea leaves would have been unpleasant.
    I never drink coffee.

    If they are special to you I would keep those mugs even if you don’t drink out of them. ❤️
  • When I use tea bags (easily half of the time), I have a habit of stirring and lightly pressing the tea bag against the inside of the cup/mug before lifting it out. Seems to me, at this point in the thread, that's a habit I should break. Going further, though, do people generally let the tea bag drain into the cup before discarding? Or, is it a remove & swing away from the cup in one continuous motion, draining and dripping into the sink or waste basket?
  • The_Riv wrote: »
    When I use tea bags (easily half of the time), I have a habit of stirring and lightly pressing the tea bag against the inside of the cup/mug before lifting it out. Seems to me, at this point in the thread, that's a habit I should break. Going further, though, do people generally let the tea bag drain into the cup before discarding? Or, is it a remove & swing away from the cup in one continuous motion, draining and dripping into the sink or waste basket?

    Oh, I squeeze as much of the brown goodness out of the tea bag as well when I use them.
  • The_Riv wrote: »
    When I use tea bags (easily half of the time), I have a habit of stirring and lightly pressing the tea bag against the inside of the cup/mug before lifting it out. Seems to me, at this point in the thread, that's a habit I should break. Going further, though, do people generally let the tea bag drain into the cup before discarding? Or, is it a remove & swing away from the cup in one continuous motion, draining and dripping into the sink or waste basket?

    You should leave to brew for a time, then squeeze everything out before moving the comparatively drained teabag to the place of destiny.

    Your tea will then taste different. Because you will get the full taste of the tea, not just the outer washings.
  • SpikeSpike Ecclesiantics & MW Host, Admin Emeritus
    edited December 2024
    What’s all this stuff about squeezing the bag into the cup? The only way to make tea is in a teapot. Any other way is an abomination unto the Lord
  • Spike wrote: »
    Telford wrote: »
    After a few stirs, squeeze the tea bag and remove.
    Squeezing the teabag is one of the worst things you can do as it releases the bitter tannins,

    You should leave to brew for a time, then squeeze everything out before moving the comparatively drained teabag to the place of destiny.

    Your tea will then taste different. Because you will get the full taste of the tea, not just the outer washings.

    Anybody else want to weigh-in, here?! :lol:

    [bold mine]



  • Don’t squeeze tea bags. That squinches out the bitter tannin flavors into the water. Tea needn’t be bitter when properly prepared.

    That does mean tea ought to be prepared using loose leaf tea in a teapot, although a strainer in a mug is acceptable as well.
  • The_Riv wrote: »
    Spike wrote: »
    Telford wrote: »
    After a few stirs, squeeze the tea bag and remove.
    Squeezing the teabag is one of the worst things you can do as it releases the bitter tannins,

    You should leave to brew for a time, then squeeze everything out before moving the comparatively drained teabag to the place of destiny.

    Your tea will then taste different. Because you will get the full taste of the tea, not just the outer washings.

    Anybody else want to weigh-in, here?! :lol:

    [bold mine]



    *Snorts (teabag) tea down nose*
  • Does anyone else re-use teabags? I find that two teabags, used a second time, together make an acceptable strength brew.
  • I buy large empty tea bags, fill them with loose tea, add them to the teapot, and then dry and save them for art projects.
  • Sparrow wrote: »
    Does anyone else re-use teabags? I find that two teabags, used a second time, together make an acceptable strength brew.

    I toss another scoop of tea into the pot with the old tea in there and do another brew that way. I’ve found it to produce basically the same kind of tea, perhaps with a slight bitter edge depending on the blend, but nothing offensive.
    I buy large empty tea bags, fill them with loose tea, add them to the teapot, and then dry and save them for art projects.

    This is a really cool and inventive idea! I love it!
  • Provided it hasn’t dried, a most acceptable second cup can be made from a tea bag a few minutes after the first.
  • My wife does this, @Puzzler.
  • Not regularly - I try to leave my teabags to brew properly the first time, so there should be little flavour left.

    However, on the occasions my wife has a cup, she has a 2-second brew, so I have the same teabag.
  • ClimacusClimacus Shipmate
    I accidentally picked up my almond coconut milk and added it to my tea. It was an interesting taste I am not keen to repeat.
  • LatchKeyKidLatchKeyKid Shipmate
    Puzzler wrote: »
    Provided it hasn’t dried, a most acceptable second cup can be made from a tea bag a few minutes after the first.

    We mostly use leaf tea, but we can get two cups each out of a tea-bag.

    It's now hard to find tea that isn't cut so fine that our tea-strainers can effectively strain the leaves.

    I'm not keen on matcha tea.
  • RockyRogerRockyRoger Shipmate
    Tea bags are an abomination unto the Lord. What is wrong with proper large-leaf loose tea and a tea pot?
    When I worked in the US (briefly) I would occasionally demonstrate how to make a proper cup of tea to my work colleagues. And yes, I did make a convert or two!
    And don't get me started on instant coffee! Or cofee bags for that matter, or buying ready-ground beans.
  • The RogueThe Rogue Shipmate
    Is there a difference between the tea that issues from teapots which have a basket inside them for the tea leaves and that from those that don't have the basket and therefore require a tea strainer when pouring?
  • BoogieBoogie Heaven Host
    edited July 3
    I love a chai latte. I'm I committing a crime against tea? 🤔

    I drink redbush tea, black. I keep my tea bag in a strainer thingie and it lasts me all day (four mugs). 😀
  • RockyRogerRockyRoger Shipmate
    edited July 3
    'I love a chai latte. I'm I committing a crime against tea'?
    Of course not, Boogie. It's what Mrs RR occasionally drinks! With Almond milk, of course.
    Bags is OK for fruit teas and the like, but even here Mrs RR prefers her own brews, and has been known to cut bags open.
  • I feel a need to disagree with @RockyRoger . Tea bags are a gift from God. I remember having loose leaf tea when young, and having to strain it and always getting some leaves in the tea anyway. Such a faff. Tea bags are so much easier.

    Instant coffee I would concur on - it is coffee flavouring and nothing more. In fact, having seen how it is made, that view has not changed.

    But coffee bags can produce a decent coffee. And pre-ground coffee is convenient for many situations. OK, I grind my own at home mostly these days, and it is better, fresher, nicer. But other variants are acceptable too.

    I find it interesting that in the UK, the standard used to be instant - in offices definitely, and very much at home too. Visitors from the US were appalled - I worked in one place where they were taken over by a US company, and the first thing they did was install decent coffee facilities.

    Except today, we went to the US last year, and the coffee we have in most places in the UK is better than what was readily available there. It is mostly filter coffee there, whereas in the UK there is usually fresh brewed espresso.
  • KarlLBKarlLB Shipmate
    I feel a need to disagree with @RockyRoger . Tea bags are a gift from God. I remember having loose leaf tea when young, and having to strain it and always getting some leaves in the tea anyway. Such a faff. Tea bags are so much easier.

    Instant coffee I would concur on - it is coffee flavouring and nothing more. In fact, having seen how it is made, that view has not changed.

    But coffee bags can produce a decent coffee. And pre-ground coffee is convenient for many situations. OK, I grind my own at home mostly these days, and it is better, fresher, nicer. But other variants are acceptable too.

    I find it interesting that in the UK, the standard used to be instant - in offices definitely, and very much at home too. Visitors from the US were appalled - I worked in one place where they were taken over by a US company, and the first thing they did was install decent coffee facilities.

    Except today, we went to the US last year, and the coffee we have in most places in the UK is better than what was readily available there. It is mostly filter coffee there, whereas in the UK there is usually fresh brewed espresso.

    Churches. The other holdout of instant coffee. Probably because the average churchgoer hails from an age when instant was standard. Weirdly, when churches do real coffee it's generally rank. I don't know why. I always have the tea; you can only ruin tea so far, whereas coffee can be (and often is) ruined beyond belief.
  • finelinefineline Shipmate, Host Emeritus
    Does anyone else like Mariage Frères tea? They are expensive, but it makes drinking tea feel like such a luxurious treat. I love going to their shop in Covent Garden every now and then, when I happen to be in London, and asking for recommendations of tea at the lower end of the prices (around £13 for a 100g bag of tea leaves) and they show you different teas in the big cartons, and let you smell them by wafting the smell over to you with a fan. I buy a couple of bags, and I make them last ages, because I don't drink it every day, but as a nice treat sometimes. I don't use a teapot - I just put tea leaves at the bottom of a mug, and add water from the kettle, and let them sink to the bottom. I also refill with hot water a couple of times, so I get more than one mug of tea from the same tea leaves, and then I just chuck them out - I don't find them a faff, but I only drink them at home.

    I never put any milk in tea - I think milk ruins the delicate taste of tea - but then I do generally use tea leaves for that more delicate taste, because regular teabags are not so nice or delicate. I also buy other tea leaves that are cheaper than Mariage Frères, but Mariage Frères are my favourite. And I realise I would rather drink one mug of really nice tea once or twice a week than have lots of mugs of not-so-nice tea every day.

    I also like nice coffee, which I drink black too.
  • DoublethinkDoublethink Admin, 8th Day Host
    Have you tried Milk Oolong ? (No milk involved.)
  • finelinefineline Shipmate, Host Emeritus
    Have you tried Milk Oolong ? (No milk involved.)

    Ooh, no, I haven't. I like regular oolong. How is milk oolong different?
  • chrisstileschrisstiles Hell Host
    I feel a need to disagree with @RockyRoger . Tea bags are a gift from God. I remember having loose leaf tea when young, and having to strain it and always getting some leaves in the tea anyway. Such a faff. Tea bags are so much easier.

    You can get cup sized infusers, which are easy to fill and clean, and provide enough space for the leaves to brew in. The trouble with tea bags is generally they are filled with the lowest quality bits of tea dust and stalk.
    fineline wrote: »
    I never put any milk in tea - I think milk ruins the delicate taste of tea - but then I do generally use tea leaves for that more delicate taste

    For stronger black teas, the neutralisation of tannins is somewhat necessary, but I'm guessing you don't go for those styles.
  • DoublethinkDoublethink Admin, 8th Day Host
    It is slightly fermented I think, which makes slightly caramely. I really like it, and drink it black when I get it.
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