Elon ******* Musk

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  • DoublethinkDoublethink Admin, 8th Day Host
    He’s now also published an op ed supporting the far right in Germany.
  • Has he always been like this, or are we only now beginning to see him in his true colours?
  • DoublethinkDoublethink Admin, 8th Day Host
    I think it has got worse over time.
  • I fear he's believing his own propaganda. Though a legal battle between Musk and the MAGA would be worth cracking the popcorn out for.
  • Has he always been like this, or are we only now beginning to see him in his true colours?

    He has an accent, a vast fortune, and his own rocket base. He's just one Persian cat and a Nehru jacket away from being a Bond villain. If we didn't notice this before we have no one to blame but ourselves.
  • Bishops FingerBishops Finger Shipmate
    edited December 2024
    Crœsos wrote: »
    Has he always been like this, or are we only now beginning to see him in his true colours?

    He has an accent, a vast fortune, and his own rocket base. He's just one Persian cat and a Nehru jacket away from being a Bond villain. If we didn't notice this before we have no one to blame but ourselves.

    True enough, and it brings to mind the fate of Blofeld...
  • Has he always been like this, or are we only now beginning to see him in his true colours?

    He was always like this.
  • Musk could be deported to RSA.
  • Has he always been like this, or are we only now beginning to see him in his true colours?

    He was always like this.

    :grimace:
  • DafydDafyd Hell Host
    Crœsos wrote: »
    He has an accent, a vast fortune, and his own rocket base. He's just one Persian cat and a Nehru jacket away from being a Bond villain. If we didn't notice this before we have no one to blame but ourselves.
    Most Bond villains could run Twitter competently.

  • I started to say that most Bond villains could not only run it competently, but could use it in a self-serving way, and now I wonder if, despite the financial issues, it did what Musk wanted: Get away from fact checking, bring back the horrible Trumpy crap, and maybe be a factor in Trump winning the election, and then have Musk be part of/influence the government.
  • O yes. I'm sure he has a Plan.
  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    Crœsos wrote: »
    ...
    He has an accent, a vast fortune, and his own rocket base. He's just one Persian cat and a Nehru jacket away from being a Bond villain. If we didn't notice this before we have no one to blame but ourselves.

    Quotes file!
  • CrœsosCrœsos Shipmate
    This is just weird.
    The world's richest man, Elon Musk, has sparked speculation after changing his name on his social media platform X to "Kekius Maximus".

    The tech mogul - and close confidant of US President-Elect Donald Trump - offered no immediate explanation for the name or his new profile image which depicts the character Pepe the Frog - a meme that has been used by far-right groups.
  • A few more stunts like this and protective custody may be called for.
  • stetsonstetson Shipmate
    Crœsos wrote: »
    This is just weird.
    The world's richest man, Elon Musk, has sparked speculation after changing his name on his social media platform X to "Kekius Maximus".

    The tech mogul - and close confidant of US President-Elect Donald Trump - offered no immediate explanation for the name or his new profile image which depicts the character Pepe the Frog - a meme that has been used by far-right groups.

    I wonder if that name is a reference to Kekistan, the fake-country with the nazi-ish flag that became an alt-right meme early on in Trump's first term. Granted, the whole thing now seems otherwise forgotten.
  • Crœsos wrote: »
    This is just weird.

    He just fancies himself a poster but is particularly bad at it (see his stunt with the sink when he took over twitter).

    In his mind he's up there with dril.
  • :facepalm:
  • CrœsosCrœsos Shipmate
    This seems like an omen for the new year.
    One person is dead after a Tesla Cybertruck burst into flames outside Trump International Hotel near the north end of the Las Vegas Strip Wednesday morning.

    There's video at the site.
  • Meanwhile, Kekius Maximus (his name on Xitter, I'm told) is sticking his unwanted nose into UK politics yet again - supporting the fascists, of course:

    https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/jan/02/elon-musk-tommy-robinson-release-angers-labour-mps

    Be afraid. Be very afraid - he has a Plan...
  • stetsonstetson Shipmate
    Meanwhile, Kekius Maximus (his name on Xitter, I'm told) is sticking his unwanted nose into UK politics yet again - supporting the fascists, of course:

    https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/jan/02/elon-musk-tommy-robinson-release-angers-labour-mps

    While simultaneously accusing American opponents of the H-1B visa of being racist.
  • DafydDafyd Hell Host
    edited January 2
    Be very afraid - he has a Plan...
    Is this like the Cylons from the Battlestar Galactica remake? The introduction of each episode said the villains had a Plan; but it looked like it was just an improvised and contradictory series of poorly thought-through random ploys; and then a late episode retelling the series from the Cylons point of view revealed that it was indeed an improvised and contradictory series of poorly thought-through random ploys.
  • Dafyd wrote: »
    Be very afraid - he has a Plan...
    Is this like the Cylons from the Battlestar Galactica remake? The introduction of each episode said the villains had a Plan; but it looked like it was just an improvised and contradictory series of poorly thought-through random ploys; and then a late episode retelling the series from the Cylons point of view revealed that it was indeed an improvised and contradictory series of poorly thought-through random ploys.

    :lol:

    Maybe. Maybe not...
  • TelfordTelford Shipmate
    Meanwhile, on this side of the Pond, there are fears that Musk and his lickspittles Farage & Company have Evil Designs on the politics of the UK:

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/dec/18/starmer-protect-elections-foreign-interference-elon-musk
    A quote from your article
    Some officials are concerned that pressing ahead with the Electoral Commission’s recommendations any sooner could look like a politically motivated attempt to prevent Reform UK from building up a war chest before the next election.

    and it would be
  • ArethosemyfeetArethosemyfeet Shipmate, Heaven Host
    Telford wrote: »
    Meanwhile, on this side of the Pond, there are fears that Musk and his lickspittles Farage & Company have Evil Designs on the politics of the UK:

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/dec/18/starmer-protect-elections-foreign-interference-elon-musk
    A quote from your article
    Some officials are concerned that pressing ahead with the Electoral Commission’s recommendations any sooner could look like a politically motivated attempt to prevent Reform UK from building up a war chest before the next election.

    and it would be

    Would you feel the same if it was, say, George Soros offering the bankroll the Green Party?
  • DafydDafyd Hell Host
    Funny how Telford, who can't normally read articles in the Guardian, has no problem reading an article in the Guardian when it contains a quote he agrees with.
  • Bishops FingerBishops Finger Shipmate
    edited January 2
    Dafyd wrote: »
    Funny how Telford, who can't normally read articles in the Guardian, has no problem reading an article in the Guardian when it contains a quote he agrees with.

    Yes, I noticed that, but I think we all know where he stands, politically speaking, and can evaluate his comments accordingly.
  • Alan29Alan29 Shipmate
    Crœsos wrote: »
    This is just weird.
    The world's richest man, Elon Musk, has sparked speculation after changing his name on his social media platform X to "Kekius Maximus".

    The tech mogul - and close confidant of US President-Elect Donald Trump - offered no immediate explanation for the name or his new profile image which depicts the character Pepe the Frog - a meme that has been used by far-right groups.

    Keks is Liverpool slang for trousers.
    So Kekius Maximus could be translated as Massive Pants.
  • chrisstileschrisstiles Hell Host
    edited January 2
    Meanwhile, Kekius Maximus (his name on Xitter, I'm told) is sticking his unwanted nose into UK politics yet again - supporting the fascists, of course:

    https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/jan/02/elon-musk-tommy-robinson-release-angers-labour-mps

    Be afraid. Be very afraid - he has a Plan...

    No, he doesn't have a plan, but an elephant blundering around can cause mischief, and unlike at all 'his' companies, there isn't a department dedicated to distract him from tweeting out whatever crosses his transom.

    He's giving oxygen to what is a trope on the far right, that there was something additionally nefarious about the goings on at Oldham and Rotherham etc (apart from police corruption of course).
  • TelfordTelford Shipmate
    Telford wrote: »
    Meanwhile, on this side of the Pond, there are fears that Musk and his lickspittles Farage & Company have Evil Designs on the politics of the UK:

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/dec/18/starmer-protect-elections-foreign-interference-elon-musk
    A quote from your article
    Some officials are concerned that pressing ahead with the Electoral Commission’s recommendations any sooner could look like a politically motivated attempt to prevent Reform UK from building up a war chest before the next election.

    and it would be

    Would you feel the same if it was, say, George Soros offering the bankroll the Green Party?
    I merely said that the content of th quote was accurate
    Dafyd wrote: »
    Funny how Telford, who can't normally read articles in the Guardian, has no problem reading an article in the Guardian when it contains a quote he agrees with.
    So you think that I only read all the arcticle because it contained a quote I agreed with ?
    Dafyd wrote: »
    Funny how Telford, who can't normally read articles in the Guardian, has no problem reading an article in the Guardian when it contains a quote he agrees with.

    Yes, I noticed that, but I think we all know where he stands, politically speaking, and can evaluate his comments accordingly.

    and once again you think wrongly.
    You are another one who thinks I can know the details of a quote in the middle of an article without reading the article
  • stetsonstetson Shipmate
    Alan29 wrote: »
    Crœsos wrote: »
    This is just weird.
    The world's richest man, Elon Musk, has sparked speculation after changing his name on his social media platform X to "Kekius Maximus".

    The tech mogul - and close confidant of US President-Elect Donald Trump - offered no immediate explanation for the name or his new profile image which depicts the character Pepe the Frog - a meme that has been used by far-right groups.

    Keks is Liverpool slang for trousers.
    So Kekius Maximus could be translated as Massive Pants.

    Hm. Thanks.
  • HuiaHuia Shipmate
    Could that be like nappies (diapers) because he's full of what they usually contain?

    Just asking :naughty:
  • stetsonstetson Shipmate
    Sheriff McMahill of Clark County says "there's obviously things to be concerned about" in regards to it being car made by Elon Musk getting blown up in front of a hoted owned by Donald Trump.
  • HugalHugal Shipmate
    stetson wrote: »
    Sheriff McMahill of Clark County says "there's obviously things to be concerned about" in regards to it being car made by Elon Musk getting blown up in front of a hoted owned by Donald Trump.

    A masterly use of understatement there
  • Huia wrote: »
    Could that be like nappies (diapers) because he's full of what they usually contain?

    Just asking :naughty:
    My thought with “Massive Pants” was “too big for his britches.”


  • SighthoundSighthound Shipmate
    edited January 3
    To answer the question about Mr Soros, I can only speak for myself, but I feel that all donations to all political parties should be regulated. And indeed, capped. Rich individuals ought not to be able to purchase excessive influence in our polity. This is particularly true of persons who do not belong to our polity, irrespective of whether or not I agree with their ravings.

    Indeed, I would argue that a person who is not liable to pay UK income tax should have no say whatsoever. And corporate entities should also be excluded.
  • ArethosemyfeetArethosemyfeet Shipmate, Heaven Host
    Sighthound wrote: »
    To answer the question about Mr Soros, I can only speak for myself, but I feel that all donations to all political parties should be regulated. And indeed, capped. Rich individuals ought not to be able to purchase excessive influence in our polity. This is particularly true of persons who do not belong to our polity, irrespective of whether or not I agree with their ravings.

    Indeed, I would argue that a person who is not liable to pay UK income tax should have no say whatsoever. And corporate entities should also be excluded.

    I agree with that, and I hope I would be consistent across the political spectrum. Though of course I might be biased by the fact that billionaires are inherently unlikely to be bankrolling my politics.
  • Alan29Alan29 Shipmate
    Sighthound wrote: »
    To answer the question about Mr Soros, I can only speak for myself, but I feel that all donations to all political parties should be regulated. And indeed, capped. Rich individuals ought not to be able to purchase excessive influence in our polity. This is particularly true of persons who do not belong to our polity, irrespective of whether or not I agree with their ravings.

    Indeed, I would argue that a person who is not liable to pay UK income tax should have no say whatsoever. And corporate entities should also be excluded.

    When they are allowed they have to be declared (in theory). Banning them wouldn't stop them.
  • stetsonstetson Shipmate
    Alan29 wrote: »
    Sighthound wrote: »
    To answer the question about Mr Soros, I can only speak for myself, but I feel that all donations to all political parties should be regulated. And indeed, capped. Rich individuals ought not to be able to purchase excessive influence in our polity. This is particularly true of persons who do not belong to our polity, irrespective of whether or not I agree with their ravings.

    Indeed, I would argue that a person who is not liable to pay UK income tax should have no say whatsoever. And corporate entities should also be excluded.

    When they are allowed they have to be declared (in theory). Banning them wouldn't stop them.

    I don't understand how the second sentence follows from the first.
  • Alan29 wrote: »

    When they are allowed they have to be declared (in theory). Banning them wouldn't stop them.

    Well, banning makes it illegal. And there are pains and penalties for doing illegal things. I would suggest that for a party, conviction would lead to abrogation of their votes at the relevant election. Therefore, parties would be very wary of breaking the law, as they ought to be.
  • stetsonstetson Shipmate
    So, Musk is now calling for King Charles to dissolve parliament over Starmer's alleged failure to deal with "grooming gangs". Basically, demanding a coup d'etat.
  • DoublethinkDoublethink Admin, 8th Day Host
    His “failure” to solve a problem going back decades in six months, well that exhortation is worth what we paid for it.
  • Musk has been described as the world's biggest *pub bore*, which sounds about right.
  • HugalHugal Shipmate
    Elon can keep his nose out of our constitution. For all I care he can stop selling his cars over here if he wants to.
  • CrœsosCrœsos Shipmate
    Musk has been described as the world's biggest *pub bore*, which sounds about right.

    Somewhat related: Elon Musk buys a pub
  • stetson wrote: »
    Sheriff McMahill of Clark County says "there's obviously things to be concerned about" in regards to it being car made by Elon Musk getting blown up in front of a hoted owned by Donald Trump.

    Well, sure. But which things?

    Is this an attack on the President-Elect, and the President-Elect's current best mate, by someone who is angry with America? An attack on a pair of robber baron kleptocrats by someone who is angry with a small number of rich men buying political control of the country? Is this someone who has a long-standing grudge and wanted to make a terrorist statement, or someone who was angry about a bunch of things that happened in his life, and Trump and Musk were convenient targets for his ire?

    The man who killed himself in the Cybertruck was a highly decorated military veteran. Given his particular background, he certainly knew how to construct a much more destructive bomb than the one he made, so one could speculate that his intent with the explosion was more "pay attention to me" than "I want to kill some people".
  • Gramps49Gramps49 Shipmate
    edited January 3
    Point of information, the vehicle that was used in the Los Vegas incident was a cybertruck. And it did not blow up. It was loaded up with fireworks and other incendiary devices. but when they went off the fireworks went up, not out. Thus, the people that were in front of Trump Motel were not hurt in any way, Here is a video of the truck after the explosion, note how intact the body remained. Looks like the windows blew out, though
  • TelfordTelford Shipmate
    stetson wrote: »
    So, Musk is now calling for King Charles to dissolve parliament over Starmer's alleged failure to deal with "grooming gangs". Basically, demanding a coup d'etat.

    Elon needs to know that he can't always get his own way

    Do you agree with Labour who have declined to have a national enquiry on the Grooming gangs issue?
  • stetsonstetson Shipmate
    Telford wrote: »
    stetson wrote: »
    So, Musk is now calling for King Charles to dissolve parliament over Starmer's alleged failure to deal with "grooming gangs". Basically, demanding a coup d'etat.

    Elon needs to know that he can't always get his own way

    Do you agree with Labour who have declined to have a national enquiry on the Grooming gangs issue?

    Are you asking me? Because I have no opinions on the grooming-gang controversy that I'd be prepared to defend either way at this point. My comment was about Musk's proposed solution to the issue, which is inappropriate for dealing with any issue in a parliamentary democracy.
  • stetsonstetson Shipmate
    edited January 4
    stetson wrote: »
    Sheriff McMahill of Clark County says "there's obviously things to be concerned about" in regards to it being car made by Elon Musk getting blown up in front of a hoted owned by Donald Trump.

    Well, sure. But which things?

    Is this an attack on the President-Elect, and the President-Elect's current best mate, by someone who is angry with America? An attack on a pair of robber baron kleptocrats by someone who is angry with a small number of rich men buying political control of the country? Is this someone who has a long-standing grudge and wanted to make a terrorist statement, or someone who was angry about a bunch of things that happened in his life, and Trump and Musk were convenient targets for his ire?

    The man who killed himself in the Cybertruck was a highly decorated military veteran. Given his particular background, he certainly knew how to construct a much more destructive bomb than the one he made, so one could speculate that his intent with the explosion was more "pay attention to me" than "I want to kill some people".

    For the record; I wasn't intending to comment either way on the credibility of McMahill's statement, just that it, in synchronicity with the overall event, could have implications for public perceptions if Elon Musk.

    Personally, it wouldn't surprise me if the Vegas self-immolator is ultimately remembered in the same way as the 2020 Nashville Suicide Bomber, another presumed lone-actor who seems to have made at least a modicum of effort to minimize civilian casualties. That is, not really remembered at all.

    And, thanks @Gramps49, for the relevant info.
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