There are very few things less functional than a cybertruck.
Then that comparison is kind of pointless and Gwai must mean gazelles.
Or Gwai is pointlessly being cranky at one of the most powerful and evil men in their country. (Gazelles seem quite functional and conveniently not evil. I do not have it in for them.)
There are very few things less functional than a cybertruck.
Depends where you are. It's big, ugly, and dangerous to pedestrians. I wonder if Musk thinks that stainless steel means "magically doesn't rust".
On the other hand, it works fine as a general utility truck for people who need that. You can run all kinds of useful things from the power outlets in it (you can, for example, run electric power tools from it all day without needing to run a generator), and it can successfully haul heavy loads.
The fact that it costs a significant fraction of a house is mildly insane, but that addresses whether owning one is a value proposition, and not whether it's functional.
You can tow stuff with it successfully. Range suffers, but that's a general problem with towing with an EV: if you're towing with a gas / diesel truck, you could refuel once an hour or so and not care very much, because it only takes a few minutes to refuel. Recharging your EV that often sucks.
You can power the important things in your house from it for a long time if you have a power outage. Whether that's useful or not depends on where and how you live, but it might be useful for you.
On the other hand, it works fine as a general utility truck for people who need that. You can run all kinds of useful things from the power outlets in it (you can, for example, run electric power tools from it all day without needing to run a generator), and it can successfully haul heavy loads.
They are also very unsafe, which is a bad feature in a work truck. "A new analysis by independent automotive blog FuelArc suggests that fire fatalities are 17 times more likely in a Cybertruck than in the infamous Ford Pinto " Citation
@Leorning Cniht - you are Musk's sales agent, and I claim my £5!
I think the things are hideous, and hideously expensive, and @Gwai points out that their safety record may not be exactly great. You couldn't pay me to own one, and that's before Musk went full Nazi. But even allowing for hyperbole, Alan's "few things are less functional" seemed a little excessive.
We have an electric car, we like it very much. A few weeks ago Mr Boogs was rear-ended by a wagon. While the car was being mended the courtesy car was a tesler.
It was awful. No dashboard - just a screen to the left. You had to turn your head to see the speed you were doing. It was highly uncomfortable too.
My osteopath has a Tesla, which he likes, and which AFAIK is one of the earlier models. I think I might mention the anti-Muskrat bumper stickers, as he is most certainly not an admirer of the Muskrat...
There was an interesting progamme, 'X-Men' on BBC Radio Four about Musk and his troubled upbringing.
He was greatly influenced (so it was contended) by sceience fiction, particularly the 'Foundation' trilogy by Issac Asimov and (I kid you not) 'The hitchhikers guide to the galaxy' by Douglas Adams.
These influences remain deep in his psyche and inform his adolescent thoughts (such as they are) about human relationships, the fate of humankind and his fantasy of terraforming Mars.
Heaven help us. Both authors would be horrified!
That such a person with, to put it kindly, arrested development, has so much money, power and influence is indeed scary. The programme (still available on i-player) was not an easy listen. But, for, this poor earthbound creature soon to be (in Musk's terminology) out-evolved, it explained a lot.
That is interesting - I presume he sees Trump as Zephod - the president who is useless - and himself as the Man Who Rules The Galaxy - who does all the real work.
And yet totally missed the whole point of that - that people who want power must never be allowed to have any.
There was an interesting progamme, 'X-Men' on BBC Radio Four about Musk and his troubled upbringing.
He was greatly influenced (so it was contended) by sceience fiction, particularly the 'Foundation' trilogy by Issac Asimov and (I kid you not) 'The hitchhikers guide to the galaxy' by Douglas Adams.
These influences remain deep in his psyche and inform his adolescent thoughts (such as they are) about human relationships, the fate of humankind and his fantasy of terraforming Mars.
Heaven help us. Both authors would be horrified!
That such a person with, to put it kindly, arrested development, has so much money, power and influence is indeed scary. The programme (still available on i-player) was not an easy listen. But, for, this poor earthbound creature soon to be (in Musk's terminology) out-evolved, it explained a lot.
Based on my brief fixation on the TV series in the mid-1980s, it seems odd to me that Hitchkiker's Guide would inspire anyone toward an interest in space travel, as it just seemed to use a generic idea of "outer space" as a set-up for comedic scenarios that coulda taken place in any sorta fantasy environment.
Musk is now saying it was not Hitler that killed the Jews in the Holocaust, it was the public service workers. For that matter neither did Stalin or Mao.
I guess this is not the first time he has made this claim.
Musk is now saying it was not Hitler that killed the Jews in the Holocaust, it was the public service workers. For that matter neither did Stalin or Mao.
I guess this is not the first time he has made this claim.
That has to be the most bizarre take on the Nuremberg Defense ever.
Musk is now saying it was not Hitler that killed the Jews in the Holocaust, it was the public service workers. For that matter neither did Stalin or Mao.
I guess this is not the first time he has made this claim.
That has to be the most bizarre take on the Nuremberg Defense ever.
"Just giving orders".
It's also classic Nazi apologetics - claiming that Hitler knew nothing about the Holocaust and never ordered it.
Musk is now saying it was not Hitler that killed the Jews in the Holocaust, it was the public service workers. For that matter neither did Stalin or Mao.
I guess this is not the first time he has made this claim.
That has to be the most bizarre take on the Nuremberg Defense ever.
I think it's the reverse of the standard Nuremberg Defense.
"The bureaucrats were just following orders!" is meant to exonerate the bureaucrat, by placing the blame on Hitler. But "The bureaucrats decided on their own to commit genocide" is meant to exonerate Hitler.
And, for the record, this Reverse Nuremberg Defense was used at the trials of the Khmer Rouge bigwigs, whose lawyers argued that the atrocities were just a case of lower-level cadres getting carried away in their implementation of the program.
Musk is now saying it was not Hitler that killed the Jews in the Holocaust, it was the public service workers. For that matter neither did Stalin or Mao.
I guess this is not the first time he has made this claim.
That has to be the most bizarre take on the Nuremberg Defense ever.
I think it's the reverse of the standard Nuremberg Defense.
"The bureaucrats were just following orders!" is meant to exonerate the bureaucrat, by placing the blame on Hitler. But "The bureaucrats decided on their own to commit genocide" is meant to exonerate Hitler.
And, for the record, this Reverse Nuremberg Defense was used at the trials of the Khmer Rouge bigwigs, whose lawyers argued that the atrocities were just a case of lower-level cadres getting carried away in their implementation of the program.
And so you wind up with an ethical shell game. Fun times.
Musk is now saying it was not Hitler that killed the Jews in the Holocaust, it was the public service workers. For that matter neither did Stalin or Mao.
I guess this is not the first time he has made this claim.
I’d like to see his evidence. That is a lot of deaths not to notice. The “Mark” stops with the boss.
Musk admits he uses Ketamine to deal with Depression. The Atlantic Magazine just published an article on what Ketamine can do to the brain. Helps to explain some of the bizarre actions Musk has done. Really dangerous.
Musk admits he uses Ketamine to deal with Depression. The Atlantic Magazine just published an article on what Ketamine can do to the brain. Helps to explain some of the bizarre actions Musk has done. Really dangerous.
Heaven help us! On the other hand .... can I have some?
Musk admits he uses Ketamine to deal with Depression. The Atlantic Magazine just published an article on what Ketamine can do to the brain. Helps to explain some of the bizarre actions Musk has done. Really dangerous.
Heaven help us! On the other hand .... can I have some?
You can probably get some in your area. It is a widely abused drug.
I feel that there is something fundamentally wrong with a society where to have power and responsibility seems to require the use of consciousness-altering drugs. I mean, in the UK, the |tories were clearly high all of the time, and I wonder if Starmer is on nitrazepam, rather than coke.
But Trumps complaints about the amount of fentanyl coming from Canada - I strongly suspect that Washington is the biggest consumer of such drugs in the country (although I am sure that Wall Street is not far behind). And probably the biggest exporter to Canada (the traffic is mainly in that direction, of course, not the other)
He thinks he’ll beat a KGB trained judo expert ? Of that either Russia or Ukraine will accept trial by combat as deciding the fate of nations - what is wrong with him ?
If trial by combat was going to be an acceptable alternative to all out war I doubt anyone would want Musk to be their champion. Normal historical practice where that option was used was to choose someone from the nation who was physically strong and skilled in hand to hand combat.
Unless Musk sees himself as a David collecting pebbles in a stream.
Musk admits he uses Ketamine to deal with Depression. The Atlantic Magazine just published an article on what Ketamine can do to the brain. Helps to explain some of the bizarre actions Musk has done. Really dangerous.
Heaven help us! On the other hand .... can I have some?
You can probably get some in your area. It is a widely abused drug.
I feel that there is something fundamentally wrong with a society where to have power and responsibility seems to require the use of consciousness-altering drugs. I mean, in the UK, the |tories were clearly high all of the time, and I wonder if Starmer is on nitrazepam, rather than coke.
But Trumps complaints about the amount of fentanyl coming from Canada - I strongly suspect that Washington is the biggest consumer of such drugs in the country (although I am sure that Wall Street is not far behind). And probably the biggest exporter to Canada (the traffic is mainly in that direction, of course, not the other)
In the (good) old days, was not John Major known as 'Mogadon Man'? As for Starmer, a couple of doses of Ketamine might be just what he needs. Or a nice cup of Bovril .....
In the (good) old days, was not John Major known as 'Mogadon Man'? As for Starmer, a couple of doses of Ketamine might be just what he needs. Or a nice cup of Bovril .....
A google on "Mogadon Man" turns up nothing about Major, but a lot about Geoffrey Howe, and one reference to a businessman named Geoffrey Mulcahy. According to the latter article, it seems Mulcahy got the nickname because he was boring(Mogadon being a sleeping pill), not because he was actually taking the drug. I'm guessing that was the reason for applying the epithet to Howe as well?
Major was hardly renowned for being an interesting character, with Spitting Image portraying him and Norma as grey and always eating peas. So, if that "Mogadon Man" was applied to him (and, I honestly don't recall that at all) then, again, it would be for being boring.
I'd add that there's something quite uncomfortable about characterising people based on medicines that they're taking under medical supervision (at least that being prescribed with their doctor regularly reviewing dosage and whether it's effective). There are people who struggle with drugs, eg: opioid pain killers, that were prescribed for good reasons but are no longer needed, but I'd also prefer to avoid the pejorative "junky" label for those people as well as those who are currently on medicine that's been prescribed.
Of course, if someone is self-medicating on drugs without a doctor keeping an eye on dosage, or have a prescription for something like ketamine and take more than prescribed, then that could be something worth comment, and even describing someone as a junky.
I agree with you Alan, and wouldn't decry either Musk or Starmer if they were taking medically prescribed does. The suggestion is that Musk is taking a lot more than prescribed. And Starmer it is just his demeanour that I am commenting on.
Incidentally, Major, despite being portrayed as The Grey Man, did have an affair with (the totally obnoxious) Edwina Curry. Which came as a surprise to everyone. Possibly except Edwina.
I agree with you Alan, and wouldn't decry either Musk or Starmer if they were taking medically prescribed does. The suggestion is that Musk is taking a lot more than prescribed. And Starmer it is just his demeanour that I am commenting on.
Incidentally, Major, despite being portrayed as The Grey Man, did have an affair with (the totally obnoxious) Edwina Curry. Which came as a surprise to everyone. Possibly except Edwina.
Which generated some good jokes at the time, eg: I'm just popping out for a quick curry, dear', etc.
Happy innocent days!
Just saw a news report about a new doxxing website which allows you to locate Tesla owners on a map of the USA. The cursor is a flaming Molotov Cocktail. Cute.
Just saw a news report about a new doxxing website which allows you to locate Tesla owners on a map of the USA. The cursor is a flaming Molotov Cocktail. Cute.
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I've also heard he's against the tariffs, and I'd like there to be as many people as possible among Trump's advisors with that opinion.
That said, if Musk ends up crashing the USA's Social Security system, the entire world is gonna have WAY bigger problems than a few tariffs.
Now if they would fly it, fully passengered, above the "Gulf of America" and have a rapid disassembly event.
Well; rushing any Boeing project seems to be a recipe for disaster these days.
Or Gwai is pointlessly being cranky at one of the most powerful and evil men in their country. (Gazelles seem quite functional and conveniently not evil. I do not have it in for them.)
It would be interesting to know who might be best included in the passenger manifest for that flight, but TIACW...
And so it becomes an accidental coup as Elon Musk takes advantage of the transition to seize power?
I wonder if he thinks Vance would be more pliant.
Depends where you are. It's big, ugly, and dangerous to pedestrians. I wonder if Musk thinks that stainless steel means "magically doesn't rust".
On the other hand, it works fine as a general utility truck for people who need that. You can run all kinds of useful things from the power outlets in it (you can, for example, run electric power tools from it all day without needing to run a generator), and it can successfully haul heavy loads.
The fact that it costs a significant fraction of a house is mildly insane, but that addresses whether owning one is a value proposition, and not whether it's functional.
You can tow stuff with it successfully. Range suffers, but that's a general problem with towing with an EV: if you're towing with a gas / diesel truck, you could refuel once an hour or so and not care very much, because it only takes a few minutes to refuel. Recharging your EV that often sucks.
You can power the important things in your house from it for a long time if you have a power outage. Whether that's useful or not depends on where and how you live, but it might be useful for you.
Surely, Musk, as the Other God-Emperor, would himself be aboard?
Probably not, though.
They are also very unsafe, which is a bad feature in a work truck. "A new analysis by independent automotive blog FuelArc suggests that fire fatalities are 17 times more likely in a Cybertruck than in the infamous Ford Pinto " Citation
Seriously, though - who knew they could be so useful ?
I think the things are hideous, and hideously expensive, and @Gwai points out that their safety record may not be exactly great. You couldn't pay me to own one, and that's before Musk went full Nazi. But even allowing for hyperbole, Alan's "few things are less functional" seemed a little excessive.
It was awful. No dashboard - just a screen to the left. You had to turn your head to see the speed you were doing. It was highly uncomfortable too.
We had it three weeks and hardly used it at all.
He was greatly influenced (so it was contended) by sceience fiction, particularly the 'Foundation' trilogy by Issac Asimov and (I kid you not) 'The hitchhikers guide to the galaxy' by Douglas Adams.
These influences remain deep in his psyche and inform his adolescent thoughts (such as they are) about human relationships, the fate of humankind and his fantasy of terraforming Mars.
Heaven help us. Both authors would be horrified!
That such a person with, to put it kindly, arrested development, has so much money, power and influence is indeed scary. The programme (still available on i-player) was not an easy listen. But, for, this poor earthbound creature soon to be (in Musk's terminology) out-evolved, it explained a lot.
And yet totally missed the whole point of that - that people who want power must never be allowed to have any.
Based on my brief fixation on the TV series in the mid-1980s, it seems odd to me that Hitchkiker's Guide would inspire anyone toward an interest in space travel, as it just seemed to use a generic idea of "outer space" as a set-up for comedic scenarios that coulda taken place in any sorta fantasy environment.
Love. This.
You mean a fishing orbit?
I guess this is not the first time he has made this claim.
That has to be the most bizarre take on the Nuremberg Defense ever.
"Just giving orders".
It's also classic Nazi apologetics - claiming that Hitler knew nothing about the Holocaust and never ordered it.
I think it's the reverse of the standard Nuremberg Defense.
"The bureaucrats were just following orders!" is meant to exonerate the bureaucrat, by placing the blame on Hitler. But "The bureaucrats decided on their own to commit genocide" is meant to exonerate Hitler.
And, for the record, this Reverse Nuremberg Defense was used at the trials of the Khmer Rouge bigwigs, whose lawyers argued that the atrocities were just a case of lower-level cadres getting carried away in their implementation of the program.
And so you wind up with an ethical shell game. Fun times.
I’d like to see his evidence. That is a lot of deaths not to notice. The “Mark” stops with the boss.
Heaven help us! On the other hand .... can I have some?
I have read articles claiming that basically the whole Nazi government was on amphetamines.
Seems like everyone was on speed during WWII. How do you think the Spitfire pilots were able to defend against the Luftwaffe?
You can probably get some in your area. It is a widely abused drug.
I feel that there is something fundamentally wrong with a society where to have power and responsibility seems to require the use of consciousness-altering drugs. I mean, in the UK, the |tories were clearly high all of the time, and I wonder if Starmer is on nitrazepam, rather than coke.
But Trumps complaints about the amount of fentanyl coming from Canada - I strongly suspect that Washington is the biggest consumer of such drugs in the country (although I am sure that Wall Street is not far behind). And probably the biggest exporter to Canada (the traffic is mainly in that direction, of course, not the other)
Unless Musk sees himself as a David collecting pebbles in a stream.
In the (good) old days, was not John Major known as 'Mogadon Man'? As for Starmer, a couple of doses of Ketamine might be just what he needs. Or a nice cup of Bovril .....
A google on "Mogadon Man" turns up nothing about Major, but a lot about Geoffrey Howe, and one reference to a businessman named Geoffrey Mulcahy. According to the latter article, it seems Mulcahy got the nickname because he was boring(Mogadon being a sleeping pill), not because he was actually taking the drug. I'm guessing that was the reason for applying the epithet to Howe as well?
I'd add that there's something quite uncomfortable about characterising people based on medicines that they're taking under medical supervision (at least that being prescribed with their doctor regularly reviewing dosage and whether it's effective). There are people who struggle with drugs, eg: opioid pain killers, that were prescribed for good reasons but are no longer needed, but I'd also prefer to avoid the pejorative "junky" label for those people as well as those who are currently on medicine that's been prescribed.
Of course, if someone is self-medicating on drugs without a doctor keeping an eye on dosage, or have a prescription for something like ketamine and take more than prescribed, then that could be something worth comment, and even describing someone as a junky.
Incidentally, Major, despite being portrayed as The Grey Man, did have an affair with (the totally obnoxious) Edwina Curry. Which came as a surprise to everyone. Possibly except Edwina.
Which generated some good jokes at the time, eg: I'm just popping out for a quick curry, dear', etc.
Happy innocent days!
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Point taken. Feel free to edit my post as you find appropriate.
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