According to Chichester’s online listing, the introit was Hosanna to the son of David - Weelkes; the setting was Walton‘s Missa Brevis, and the anthem was Ego sum panis vivum-Palestrina
Alone in my sorrow and dead in my sin I raise a hallelujah in the presence of my enemies I see the king of glory Jesus, you are here with me, Jesus you are all I need (a new one to me) This is my desire, to honour you Praise is rising
According to Chichester’s online listing, the introit was Hosanna to the son of David - Weelkes; the setting was Walton‘s Missa Brevis, and the anthem was Ego sum panis vivum-Palestrina
The Passion narrative in Salzburg cathedral this morning was the 'Passion nach Lukas' by a modern German composer Klaus Rothaupt - a mixture of choral work and instrumental and soloist accompaniments with a dramatic reading of the narrative by a young man who was not a cleric.
Next Sunday will be Carl Maria von Weber's Jubelmesse with Handel's Hallelujah chorus at the end.
It being the 2nd Sunday of the month, our Palm Sunday had the All Age Communion treatment. We didn't actually process around church (though if there had actually been any children or anyone younger than me there at that point they were going to do the processing bit) but there was much joyful enthusiasm on the part of those there for waving their palms We'd also normally have All glory, laud and honour for processing purposes rather than at the Offertory.
Song of praise after the Palm Gospel There's a man riding in on a donkey - Sing Hosanna
Gradual - You are the King of Glory - Hosanna to the Son of David
Offertory - All glory, laud and honour - St Theodulph
Communion - From heaven you came - The Servant King
Final hymn - My song is love unknown - Love Unknown
Hosanna, Hosanna - Carl Tuttle
A non descript video of no relevence
Like a Dream - Robin Mann Video
Ride on, ride on in majesty - Winchester New
From heaven you came - The Servant King
All Glory, Laud, and Honor (ST. THEODULPH)
O Sacred Head, Now Wounded (PASSION CHORALE)
My Song is Love Unknown (LOVE UNKNOWN)
Edit: for those singing Ride On! yesterday, it might be interesting to know that the Episcopalians on this side of the pond sing what I believe to be an excellent 20th century tune, THE KING'S MAJESTY.
All Glory, Laud, and Honor (ST. THEODULPH)
O Sacred Head, Now Wounded (PASSION CHORALE)
My Song is Love Unknown (LOVE UNKNOWN)
Edit: for those singing Ride On! yesterday, it might be interesting to know that the Episcopalians on this side of the pond sing what I believe to be an excellent 20th century tune, THE KING'S MAJESTY.
Thanks for the link! Not a tune I think you'll hear on this side of the Pond, but none the worse for that. I guess it benefits from a good choir, such as that possessed by the church in the video.
Edit: for those singing Ride On! yesterday, it might be interesting to know that the Episcopalians on this side of the pond sing what I believe to be an excellent 20th century tune, THE KING'S MAJESTY.
I'm listening to 2 hours [breaking it up to last the week] of organ music for Palm Sunday on YouTube and the organist mentioned that tune and it was not heard in the UK where he is, and played it. It was new to me. And beautiful. The performance you linked to was wondrous. Thank you.
Looking ahead to Good Friday, Our Place will be singing just two hymns at the 12 noon Liturgy:
There is a green hill far away (Horsley) When I survey the wondrous cross (Rockingham)
AIUI, a cantor will chant The Reproaches during the Veneration of the Cross.
(Am I the only one here who finds the theology of There is a green hill just a bit too simplistic?)
I await my Spy's report as to the music at the Maundy Thursday Mass...
We used to sing the beautiful and moving Faithful cross, above all other (Pange Lingua) during the Veneration, but FatherInCharge doesn't like it, for some reason.
We used to sing the beautiful and moving Faithful cross, above all other (Pange Lingua) during the Veneration, but FatherInCharge doesn't like it, for some reason.
We used to do a setting of Crux fidelis allegedly written by King John IV of Portugal - it was quite a nice wee piece.
Re: There is a green hill, it was written by a Victorian lady with (I imagine) Victorian children in mind - and apparently the "city wall" was inspired by the walls of Derry, where Mrs Alexander lived.
A friend from work is in one of those choirs and told me about this last week. I actually joined them for the equivalent performance last year, which was the much more well known 'Stainer's Crucifixion' (which incidentally I sang in again this week with a different group of singers conducted by my own church organist ... we only had one tenor, so in the men's choruses I got dragged in to be a first tenor!)
Re: There is a green hill, it was written by a Victorian lady with (I imagine) Victorian children in mind - and apparently the "city wall" was inspired by the walls of Derry, where Mrs Alexander lived.
She wrote a series of childrens’ hymns, each one concentrating on an aspect of the Nicene Creed. The only ones that survive are All Things Bright and Beautiful, Once in Royal David’s City, and There is a Green Hill.
Re: There is a green hill, it was written by a Victorian lady with (I imagine) Victorian children in mind - and apparently the "city wall" was inspired by the walls of Derry, where Mrs Alexander lived.
That's a nice story but it doesn't work: the hymn was published in 1848 and the writer didn't move to Derry (with her husband, who was Bishop) until 1867. In 1848 she was still single and living in Strabane.
Maundy Thursday
Entrance - Meekness and majesty
Psalm - Our blessing cup - Hurd
Gospel Acclamation -A New commandment
Foot washing - Ubi Caritas - Taize
Offertory - Blest are you Lord God of all creation
Celtic Mass - Walker
Communion - This is my body, broken for you
Procession - Of the glorious body telling
Watching - Stay with me - Taize.
Re: There is a green hill, it was written by a Victorian lady with (I imagine) Victorian children in mind - and apparently the "city wall" was inspired by the walls of Derry, where Mrs Alexander lived.
She wrote a series of childrens’ hymns, each one concentrating on an aspect of the Nicene Creed. The only ones that survive are All Things Bright and Beautiful, Once in Royal David’s City, and There is a Green Hill.
And, somehow, the sublime I bind unto myself today.
Re: There is a green hill, it was written by a Victorian lady with (I imagine) Victorian children in mind - and apparently the "city wall" was inspired by the walls of Derry, where Mrs Alexander lived.
She wrote a series of childrens’ hymns, each one concentrating on an aspect of the Nicene Creed. The only ones that survive are All Things Bright and Beautiful, Once in Royal David’s City, and There is a Green Hill.
And, somehow, the sublime I bind unto myself today.
I don’t think that was one of the childrens’ series though
Re: There is a green hill, it was written by a Victorian lady with (I imagine) Victorian children in mind - and apparently the "city wall" was inspired by the walls of Derry, where Mrs Alexander lived.
She wrote a series of childrens’ hymns, each one concentrating on an aspect of the Nicene Creed. The only ones that survive are All Things Bright and Beautiful, Once in Royal David’s City, and There is a Green Hill.
And, somehow, the sublime I bind unto myself today.
I don’t think that was one of the childrens’ series though
Yes, but I always find it bizarre the contrast between it and Mrs Alexander's usual twee, drab Victoriana.
I guess the twee, drab Victoriana was typical of the period. A prime example of this is The History Of The Robins, by Mrs Trimmer - a copy of which I once bought (goodness knows why) at a Jumble Sale.
Re: There is a green hill, it was written by a Victorian lady with (I imagine) Victorian children in mind - and apparently the "city wall" was inspired by the walls of Derry, where Mrs Alexander lived.
She wrote a series of childrens’ hymns, each one concentrating on an aspect of the Nicene Creed. The only ones that survive are All Things Bright and Beautiful, Once in Royal David’s City, and There is a Green Hill.
And, somehow, the sublime I bind unto myself today.
I don’t think that was one of the childrens’ series though
Yes, but I always find it bizarre the contrast between it and Mrs Alexander's usual twee, drab Victoriana.
Was it possibly because it was a commission of a metrical version, by the Dean of the Chapel Royal at Dublin Castle, to translate St Patrick's Lorica? May have had a different mindset when she was doing this. [apologies if you knew this and were just expressing, as I see it too, the vast contrast between it and, say, the 'children all must be kind, good and whatever else it says (I forget)' line...]
Re: There is a green hill, it was written by a Victorian lady with (I imagine) Victorian children in mind - and apparently the "city wall" was inspired by the walls of Derry, where Mrs Alexander lived.
She wrote a series of childrens’ hymns, each one concentrating on an aspect of the Nicene Creed. The only ones that survive are All Things Bright and Beautiful, Once in Royal David’s City, and There is a Green Hill.
And, somehow, the sublime I bind unto myself today.
I don’t think that was one of the childrens’ series though
Yes, but I always find it bizarre the contrast between it and Mrs Alexander's usual twee, drab Victoriana.
Was it possibly because it was a commission of a metrical version, by the Dean of the Chapel Royal at Dublin Castle, to translate St Patrick's Lorica? May have had a different mindset when she was doing this. [apologies if you knew this and were just expressing, as I see it too, the vast contrast between it and, say, the 'children all must be kind, good and whatever else it says (I forget)' line...]
My theory is selective inspiration. But yes, I know about the commission, but in some ways translating into meter requires greater poetic skill than free composition (*squints at the compilers of the Scottish Psalter who substituted brute force for poetic skill in producing some of their metrical versions*).
Once only once and once for all (Albano)
Merbecke
Psalm 116
The king of love (Dominis regit me)
The heavenly word proceeding forth (St Clement)
Jesu thou joy of loving hearts (Marytonj
Now my tongue the mystery telling (Oriel)
Psalm 88 during the Altar stripping
At our Maundy Thursday Tenebrae Communion we sang the following - all a cappella.
Immortal, Invisible, God Only Wise (ST. DENIO)
There Is a Green Hill Far Away (HORSLEY)
When I Survey the Wondrous Cross (ROCKINGHAM)
The Day Thou Gavest, Lord, Is Ended (ST. CLEMENT)
This was a choral service, sung by an octet formed by our choral scholars and some friends and siblings. The octet were all aged in their 20s, a good sign for the future of this kind of choral singing.
The readings were from the Passion of St. Luke.
Ecce lignum crucis, / Douglas Walczek
In Monte Oliveti, / Anton Bruckner
E non fu il pianto suo, / words Tansillo, music by Orlando di Lasso (from, I think, the tears of St. Peter)
Crux fidelis, / King John of Portugal, words attrib. to Venantius Fortunatus
Christus factus est, / Bruckner
Psalm 22, / Giffen
Good Friday Solemn Liturgy
Responsorial Psalm 31
Reproaches
Jesus, remember me - Taize (as filler if needed)
When I survey the wondrous cross (Rockingham, of course.)
Ave Verum - Elgar (arr for two voices.)
Soul of my Saviour.
Maundy Thursday Communion with washing of hands and vigil.
Brother sister let me serve you
An upper room did our Lord prepare ( O Waly Waly)
From heaven you came
Stay with me, remain here with me ( Taizé )
Good Friday
My song is love unknown
When I survey
O sacred head surrounded
Amazing grace
“We sing the praise of him who died” - Warrington.
“Here is love, vast as the ocean” - Dom Ond Iesu.
“There is a green hill far away” - Horsley.
“When I survey the wondrous cross” - Rockingham.
“Man of sorrows! what a name” - Man of sorrows.
Three congregational hymns at our "An Hour at the Cross" Good Friday reflection.
My Song is Love Unknown (LOVE UMKNOWN)
When I Survey the Wondrous Cross (ROCKINGHAM)
Beneath the Cross of Jesus (ST. CHRISTOPHER)
We also listened to one of our members singing Come and See (Kendrick) as a solo.
Maundy Thursday Mass, followed by Procession to the Altar of Repose etc.:
Introit - my Spy can't remember what it was!
Offertory - My song is love unknown (Love Unknown)
During the foot-washing - Love is his word (Cresswell)
Communion - Be still, for the presence of the Lord (words & music by D J Evans)
Procession - Now, my tongue the mystery telling (Grafton)
Just 11 people present...
Good Friday Liturgy:
The Reproaches (said) There is a green hill far away, outside a city wall (Horsley) When I survey the wondrous cross (Rockingham)
Maundy Thursday Communion with washing of hands and vigil.
Brother sister let me serve you
An upper room did our Lord prepare ( O Waly Waly)
From heaven you came
Stay with me, remain here with me ( Taizé )
Good Friday
My song is love unknown
When I survey
O sacred head surrounded
Amazing grace
Perhaps Puzzler's congregation, like me, have ticklish feet, and could no more have someone wash them in a solemn situation than take wings and fly ...
When we were in St John's, I was asked every year if I would have my feet washed, and every year I politely declined, as I had no desire to kick the Dean in the teeth.
Hand washing is the tradition introduced by our vicar. I suppose, leaving aside the ticklishness problem, the washing of hands before a meal is customary these days in the UK, whereas the washing of feet takes place at the beginning or ending of a day. However neither is normally performed by a servant, so the symbolism is doubly lost these days.
*Hand washing* seems to be preferred to *foot washing* in some C of E churches on Maundy Thursday.
The washing of feet is AIUI part of Jewish culture, hence its inclusion in the Maundy Thursday liturgy, but hand washing seems rather twee. If the congregation won't have its feet washed (assuming Your Place actually has a congregation), best leave it out altogether.
I’ve encountered hand washing in lieu of foot washing in churches of various stripes in the US. When I’ve encountered it, it’s something everyone participates in. If the service is in the church, there is a procession, the person in front of you pours water over your hands and then dries them, and then you do likewise to the person behind you. If the service is around tables, then it goes around the table in a similar fashion. So, everyone has their hands washed by another, and everyone washes the hands of another.
Hand washing is the tradition introduced by our vicar. I suppose, leaving aside the ticklishness problem, the washing of hands before a meal is customary these days in the UK, whereas the washing of feet takes place at the beginning or ending of a day.
Yes, I’ve generally heard it as foot washing is alien to our culture, while handwashing before a meal is something common in our culture, along with having longstanding connections with ritual purification, such as the lavabo in the Mass.
Particularly as hand washing has rather different connotations in Holy Week.
The lavabo doesn’t seem to present a particular problem during Holy Week. FWIW, I’ve never heard anyone participating in it draw the connection to Pilate, and I don’t think that can be attributed to ignorance of Pilate’s actions. I suspect that the fact Pilate washed his own hands, compared to washing one another’s hands, provides some distinction—that, and that it’s almost always framed with language that explicitly connects it to foot washing.
Hand washing instead of foot washing isn’t something I get particularly excited about, nor is it something I’d likely advocate, but I have participated in services where it was done well and was clearly meaningful to many. I certainly wouldn’t call it twee.
Hand washing..... like Pilate?
It's about context.
And as I said, the language I’ve heard used to frame the hand washing clearly and unambiguously establishes a context that’s quite different from Pilate, as does the way the hand washing is done. So no, not like Pilate.
I don't know if this is the place, but I had to provide accompaniment for Singing the Faith 274 today - 'Jesus Christ, I think upon your sacrifice'. I think it might have been OK by me if most of the 'I's were turned into 'we's, except the 'pouring out' bit which doesn't make sense unless I suppose it's a 'you'. And the 'thank you for the cross my friend' feels off to me. If this one means something to anyone here I'd be (genuinely) interested - I don't want to be just snarky and I am OK providing a service to the (mixed, walk-of-witness ecumenical) congo including things which don't speak to me. But I struggled a bit.
As a mild observation, there are many well-loved hymns which are intensely personal and fervent in tone - When I survey the wondrous cross and And can it be that I should gain come immediately to mind.
Some people can sing them, sharing the emotions expressed, whilst others just enjoy a good tune!
At the Good Friday reflection this evening we had:
How deep the Father's love for us My song is love unknown Ah, holy Jesus, how have you offended (not sung by us - recorded and accompanied by a series of slides) Oh, the deep deep love of Jesus When I survey the wondrous cross
Comments
Alone in my sorrow and dead in my sin
I raise a hallelujah in the presence of my enemies
I see the king of glory
Jesus, you are here with me, Jesus you are all I need (a new one to me)
This is my desire, to honour you
Praise is rising
Yes, thank you, it was Palestrina
We’ve been known to sing it at the feast of Christ the King
Indeed - I think we've done the same.
I should have said *perhaps more appropriate for Maundy Thursday than Palm Sunday*...
Next Sunday will be Carl Maria von Weber's Jubelmesse with Handel's Hallelujah chorus at the end.
Song of praise after the Palm Gospel
There's a man riding in on a donkey - Sing Hosanna
Gradual - You are the King of Glory - Hosanna to the Son of David
Offertory - All glory, laud and honour - St Theodulph
Communion - From heaven you came - The Servant King
Final hymn - My song is love unknown - Love Unknown
A non descript video of no relevence
Like a Dream - Robin Mann Video
Ride on, ride on in majesty - Winchester New
From heaven you came - The Servant King
Palm/Passion Sunday:
All Glory, Laud, and Honor (ST. THEODULPH)
O Sacred Head, Now Wounded (PASSION CHORALE)
My Song is Love Unknown (LOVE UNKNOWN)
Edit: for those singing Ride On! yesterday, it might be interesting to know that the Episcopalians on this side of the pond sing what I believe to be an excellent 20th century tune, THE KING'S MAJESTY.
Thanks for the link! Not a tune I think you'll hear on this side of the Pond, but none the worse for that. I guess it benefits from a good choir, such as that possessed by the church in the video.
Ferial responses
Psalm 43 - chant by Wesley
Magnificat & Nunc Dimittis - chants by Robinson and Farrant
Hymns:
There is a green hill far away - Horsley
Jesu, lover of my soul - Aberystwyth
Saviour, again to thy dear name we pray - Ellers
The service was well-attended, and the singing was really quite decent.
There is a green hill far away (Horsley)
When I survey the wondrous cross (Rockingham)
AIUI, a cantor will chant The Reproaches during the Veneration of the Cross.
(Am I the only one here who finds the theology of There is a green hill just a bit too simplistic?)
I await my Spy's report as to the music at the Maundy Thursday Mass...
We used to sing the beautiful and moving Faithful cross, above all other (Pange Lingua) during the Veneration, but FatherInCharge doesn't like it, for some reason.
Re: There is a green hill, it was written by a Victorian lady with (I imagine) Victorian children in mind - and apparently the "city wall" was inspired by the walls of Derry, where Mrs Alexander lived.
A friend from work is in one of those choirs and told me about this last week. I actually joined them for the equivalent performance last year, which was the much more well known 'Stainer's Crucifixion' (which incidentally I sang in again this week with a different group of singers conducted by my own church organist ... we only had one tenor, so in the men's choruses I got dragged in to be a first tenor!)
She wrote a series of childrens’ hymns, each one concentrating on an aspect of the Nicene Creed. The only ones that survive are All Things Bright and Beautiful, Once in Royal David’s City, and There is a Green Hill.
Me too. I also used to sing “The Lord’s my shepherd I’ll not want” and wonder to myself “why wouldn’t I want him?”
Yes I know there’s a comma after “shepherd”, but as an 8 year old I didn’t notice that sort of thing
Entrance - Meekness and majesty
Psalm - Our blessing cup - Hurd
Gospel Acclamation -A New commandment
Foot washing - Ubi Caritas - Taize
Offertory - Blest are you Lord God of all creation
Celtic Mass - Walker
Communion - This is my body, broken for you
Procession - Of the glorious body telling
Watching - Stay with me - Taize.
And, somehow, the sublime I bind unto myself today.
I don’t think that was one of the childrens’ series though
Yes, but I always find it bizarre the contrast between it and Mrs Alexander's usual twee, drab Victoriana.
Ghastly Stuff and Total Tosh...
Was it possibly because it was a commission of a metrical version, by the Dean of the Chapel Royal at Dublin Castle, to translate St Patrick's Lorica? May have had a different mindset when she was doing this. [apologies if you knew this and were just expressing, as I see it too, the vast contrast between it and, say, the 'children all must be kind, good and whatever else it says (I forget)' line...]
My theory is selective inspiration. But yes, I know about the commission, but in some ways translating into meter requires greater poetic skill than free composition (*squints at the compilers of the Scottish Psalter who substituted brute force for poetic skill in producing some of their metrical versions*).
Once only once and once for all (Albano)
Merbecke
Psalm 116
The king of love (Dominis regit me)
The heavenly word proceeding forth (St Clement)
Jesu thou joy of loving hearts (Marytonj
Now my tongue the mystery telling (Oriel)
Psalm 88 during the Altar stripping
Immortal, Invisible, God Only Wise (ST. DENIO)
There Is a Green Hill Far Away (HORSLEY)
When I Survey the Wondrous Cross (ROCKINGHAM)
The Day Thou Gavest, Lord, Is Ended (ST. CLEMENT)
Tenebrae service
This was a choral service, sung by an octet formed by our choral scholars and some friends and siblings. The octet were all aged in their 20s, a good sign for the future of this kind of choral singing.
The readings were from the Passion of St. Luke.
Ecce lignum crucis, / Douglas Walczek
In Monte Oliveti, / Anton Bruckner
E non fu il pianto suo, / words Tansillo, music by Orlando di Lasso (from, I think, the tears of St. Peter)
Crux fidelis, / King John of Portugal, words attrib. to Venantius Fortunatus
Christus factus est, / Bruckner
Psalm 22, / Giffen
The readings for this service were based on the seven last words from the cross.
Hymn
Here hangs a man discarded, / words: Brian Wren, music: Passion Chorale
Choir
Psalm 22, chant by Jerry Brubaker. This was divided into seven sets of 2 or 3 verses, each set following a reading.
Each reading was also followed by a Reflection and a Prayer.
Responsorial Psalm 31
Reproaches
Jesus, remember me - Taize (as filler if needed)
When I survey the wondrous cross (Rockingham, of course.)
Ave Verum - Elgar (arr for two voices.)
Soul of my Saviour.
Brother sister let me serve you
An upper room did our Lord prepare ( O Waly Waly)
From heaven you came
Stay with me, remain here with me ( Taizé )
Good Friday
My song is love unknown
When I survey
O sacred head surrounded
Amazing grace
“We sing the praise of him who died” - Warrington.
“Here is love, vast as the ocean” - Dom Ond Iesu.
“There is a green hill far away” - Horsley.
“When I survey the wondrous cross” - Rockingham.
“Man of sorrows! what a name” - Man of sorrows.
There is a green hill far away
Outside a city wall
My Song is Love Unknown (LOVE UMKNOWN)
When I Survey the Wondrous Cross (ROCKINGHAM)
Beneath the Cross of Jesus (ST. CHRISTOPHER)
We also listened to one of our members singing Come and See (Kendrick) as a solo.
Introit - my Spy can't remember what it was!
Offertory - My song is love unknown (Love Unknown)
During the foot-washing - Love is his word (Cresswell)
Communion - Be still, for the presence of the Lord (words & music by D J Evans)
Procession - Now, my tongue the mystery telling (Grafton)
Just 11 people present...
Good Friday Liturgy:
The Reproaches (said)
There is a green hill far away, outside a city wall (Horsley)
When I survey the wondrous cross (Rockingham)
22 at the Liturgy
Washing of hands?
When we were in St John's, I was asked every year if I would have my feet washed, and every year I politely declined, as I had no desire to kick the Dean in the teeth.
The washing of feet is AIUI part of Jewish culture, hence its inclusion in the Maundy Thursday liturgy, but hand washing seems rather twee. If the congregation won't have its feet washed (assuming Your Place actually has a congregation), best leave it out altogether.
Yes, I’ve generally heard it as foot washing is alien to our culture, while handwashing before a meal is something common in our culture, along with having longstanding connections with ritual purification, such as the lavabo in the Mass.
The lavabo doesn’t seem to present a particular problem during Holy Week. FWIW, I’ve never heard anyone participating in it draw the connection to Pilate, and I don’t think that can be attributed to ignorance of Pilate’s actions. I suspect that the fact Pilate washed his own hands, compared to washing one another’s hands, provides some distinction—that, and that it’s almost always framed with language that explicitly connects it to foot washing.
Hand washing instead of foot washing isn’t something I get particularly excited about, nor is it something I’d likely advocate, but I have participated in services where it was done well and was clearly meaningful to many. I certainly wouldn’t call it twee.
It's about context.
Some people can sing them, sharing the emotions expressed, whilst others just enjoy a good tune!
YMMV.
How deep the Father's love for us
My song is love unknown
Ah, holy Jesus, how have you offended (not sung by us - recorded and accompanied by a series of slides)
Oh, the deep deep love of Jesus
When I survey the wondrous cross