I had to look that one up ... I don't think it would fit into many churches' hymnody today!
It's still pretty common in RC places and always appears in RC hymn books. "Firmly I believe and truly God is three and God is one... "
It's in Complete Anglican Hymns Old And New (the Orange Book), complete with the verse about holding the Church's teachings as God's own...
We've had it at Our Place from time to time, usually to the tune Shipston, but not today. Today is a Feast of St Hallmark, after all.
Does anyone remember singing the tune from 'the pink book' at school in the 1970s? I've never come across it since. We tried a lot of tunes from that book, including a breakneck speed version of 'Through all the changing scenes of life'. But really the only one which seems to have stuck is 'O Jesus I have promised'.
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Does anyone remember singing the tune from 'the pink book' at school in the 1970s? I've never come across it since. We tried a lot of tunes from that book, including a breakneck speed version of 'Through all the changing scenes of life'. But really the only one which seems to have stuck is 'O Jesus I have promised'.
It's called 30 20th century hymn tunes. Contains both gems and horrors. There's a setting of a Donne sonnet at the end which I love but have never heard anyone else sing.
I once had a musician who struggled with the left hand on the keyboard and stuck with chords. Faced with the counter melody in the bass line of DESERT (LYNGHAM) for O for a thousand tongues he just... skipped that bar entirely! Having been pulled up short mid-verse I approached him the next time it was chosen and coaxed him into giving that bar a try with the left hand, and all was well.
How very odd. The twiddly bits are surely there to help swing the hymn along, as you imply.
Yes - and they're in the music! (Said organist was also not keen on the upper part of the Townend "The Lord's my shepherd", but reluctantly agreed to it).
The heavenly word proceeding forth (Fulda)
Mass of St Thomas
Celtic Alleluia
We hail thy presence glorious (Offertorium)
Be still for the presence of the Lord
Laud O Sion thy salvation (Lauda Sion by Cobb) with an acclamation after each verse which ended "Hosanna in the highest"
Therefore we before him bending (St Audrey)
Psalm 117 (to a single Anglican chant)
O praise ye the Lord (Laudate Dominum) vv 1&4
This was an ultra high church performance (RC friends are highly amused that such things go on in the modern age 😏🤣) but seemed to be enjoyed by the (small) congregation. To be fair they sang well for 20 souls and the most jarring bit musically was a bell jangling during the walk around the church. Puts you right off your playing!
Our Place usually keeps Corpus Christi on the nearest Sunday (tomorrow), ending with a Procession and Benediction. An urgent appeal for rose petals, and for children to scatter them on the street, has gone forth!
Meanwhile, a nice selection of hymns is planned:
Alleluia, sing to Jesus (Hyfrydol) For the beauty of the earth (England's Lane, I hope, rather than Dix!) Let all mortal flesh keep silence (Picardy) Lord, enthroned in heavenly splendour (St Helen)
The final hymn is the Processional, and The Sheet will be used for our customary two short hymns at Benediction (in the church hall):
O saving victim (Duke Street or Wareham) Therefore we before him bending (probably Grafton)
The Lord's Prayer is also from The Sheet, possibly the Cliff Richard version (Auld Lang Syne) as that hasn't been sung for a while, and is one of FatherInCharge's favourite pieces of metrical dross...
It is to be hoped that there will be more people in church than the 18 who turned up for St Hallmark's Day Father's Day Trinity Sunday last week.
“When morning gilds the skies”. - Laudes Domini.
“God in each season” - Bunessan.
“Summer suns are glowing” - Ruth.
“The great forerunner of the morn” - Puer Nobis Nascitur (which no-one will know!)
“Be thou my vision” - Slane.
Our Place will keep John the Baptist's Birthday on Tuesday, but I recall going to a certain London church one Sunday which coincided with that Feast. A hymn was sung - unfamiliar to me at that time, but which I've since come across now and then - in honour of J the B.
Here it is - original words by the Venerable Bede, music by W H Bell:
I think The great forerunner of the morn is another paraphrase of Bede's original, but I guess you'll sing it to the tune by Michael Praetorius (no less):
Sorry to triple-post, but I've noticed that the link to Puer Nobis Nascitur opens the way to many other hymns - played as piano solos, but with the music and lyrics on screen ( so you can sing along!) - largely from the 17th/18th/early 19th centuries.
Worth exploring - some are probably well-known, others less so, but most contain fairly objective theology IYSWIM.
The Lord's Prayer is also from The Sheet, possibly the Cliff Richard version (Auld Lang Syne) as that hasn't been sung for a while, and is one of FatherInCharge's favourite pieces of metrical dross...
Oh dear, I had no idea anyone actually sang that. I’ll pray for you.
[tangent] When St Cliff first released his Millennium Prayer, I remember I’m Sorry I Haven’t A Clue did a round of “One song to the tune of another” where they had to sing Auld Lang Syne to the tune of Batchelor Boy
In our short sermon series on the Trinity (that's right, just three talks!), we have reached the Second Person - as you might guess from today's hymn choices:
Jesus is Lord! Creations Voice Proclaims it / JESUS IS LORD (Mansell)
All Heav'n Declares / ALL HEAV'N DECLARES (Richards)
From Heaven You Came / SERVANT KING (Kendrick)
Jesus! The Name High Overall / LYDIA
Parish Communion
Christ is the king, o friends rejoice - Gelob’t Sei Gott ( Vulpius)
Dear Lord and father of mankind -Repton
I cannot tell - Londonderry Air
At this table we remember- Love Divine
Guide me O thou great redeemer -Cwm Rhondda
Parish Communion
Christ is the king, o friends rejoice - Gelob’t Sei Gott ( Vulpius)
Dear Lord and father of mankind -Repton
I cannot tell - Londonderry Air
At this table we remember- Love Divine
Guide me O thou great redeemer -Cwm Rhondda
Quite a good selection (apart from the Londonderry Air one ), but rather *general* IYSWIM.
Some Places are keeping Corpus Christi today, others The Birth Of John The Baptist, both with appropriate hymns. Or is it just plain Trinity 1, the start of that interminable *Green Sunday Sag*?
My Lighthouse (with actions) He is the Lord and he reigns on high You give life, you are love Set a fire down in my soul Your love, shining like the sun
The sermon is the start of a series on Jonah - today Chapter 1
Lo! He comes, with Clouds Descending (Helmsley)
I Heard the Voice of Jesus Say (Kingsfold)
Amazing Grace (New Britain)
Will Your Anchor Hold (Will Your Anchor Hold)
Puer nobis nascitur is one of my favourite hymn-tunes - especially as rendered by the Gabrieli Consort as part of the Praetorius Christmas Mass* (aka The Best CD Of All Time™).
It's essentially the "same" melody as Unto us is born a Son, but in triple time with the stresses on a different syllable (trochaic rather than iambic).
* it's on You-tube, and well worth a listen.
I'm trying to imagine singing the Lord's Prayer to Auld Lang Syne, but it doesn't seem to fit:
Our FA-ther, who art IN hea-VEN ...???
Our offerings today:
All my hope on God is founded - Michael Alleluia, alleluia, give thanks to the risen Lord Jesu, lover of my soul - Aberystwyth As the deer pants for the water Lord for the years - Lord of the Years
Considering that one of the lessons was Elijah in his cave, and the sermon had several references to the "still, small voice", I think she missed a trick by not having Dear Lord and Father of mankind, but what would I know?
Parish Communion
Christ is the king, o friends rejoice - Gelob’t Sei Gott ( Vulpius)
Dear Lord and father of mankind -Repton
I cannot tell - Londonderry Air
At this table we remember- Love Divine
Guide me O thou great redeemer -Cwm Rhondda
Quite a good selection (apart from the Londonderry Air one ), but rather *general* IYSWIM.
Some Places are keeping Corpus Christi today, others The Birth Of John The Baptist, both with appropriate hymns. Or is it just plain Trinity 1, the start of that interminable *Green Sunday Sag*?
It was Sanctuary Sunday (news to me, but I'm not objecting) here today, focussing on the experiences of refugees and migrants.
It's Auld Lang Syne to the tune of Bachelor Boy that I've been attempting and I think I've finally got it to work. Should old acqua-ain-tance be-e forgot and ne-ver brought to mi-ind...
I had to play Cliffs Millenium thing as the coffin was being carried into church. There was no way that I couldn't make it dound like Auld Lang Syne. I have no idea what the mourners made of it.
Some interesting music today at our shack. We were celebrating refugee week, so the music had a global flavour.
The mass setting was from the Palestinian Christian Community: Mass of the Holy Family (Yusef Khill), and the choir sang in Arabic for the first ever time in this church. A visitor from Lebanon recognised the setting and was generous in their praise for the (attempted) pronunciation.
Hymns were...different to usual:
Sing out gladly (Munezero! - our speaker from a local refugee support group has Rwanda family heritage)
In a deep unbounded darkness (words based on an ancient Chinese poem by Mary Louise Bingle/ Divinum Mysterium)
Blessed be God (Salvador Martinez / Philippines)
Goodness is stronger than evil (Desmond Tutu/SA)
He came down (Cameroons / traditional)
Jesus Christ our Living Lord (Erzsebet Turmezei / Szokolay Sandor)
Gotta be fair to the choir - 'cos they weren't asked to sing Stanford here were they - they all did a top job and gave it full effort.
Immortal invisible (St Denio)
Jesu the very thiught of thee (St Agnes)
Dear Lord and Father (Repton)
Living Lord
Alban high in glory shining (Marching)
A less than insoiring service although I appreciated the nod to St Alban.
Evensong
Blest creator of the light (Vienna)
O Jesus I have promised (Day of rest) 😳
Now it is eventide time to cease from labour(?)
The last one was out of Mission Praise I think (it was a scrappy photocopy and the words were unclear but I think that it was how it began) the music was seriously wretched of the very worst slush 🤮
Some Places are keeping Corpus Christi today, others The Birth Of John The Baptist, both with appropriate hymns. Or is it just plain Trinity 1, the start of that interminable *Green Sunday Sag*?
Or the 2nd Sunday after Pentecost, or the 12th Sunday in Ordinary Time.
Considering that one of the lessons was Elijah in his cave, and the sermon had several references to the "still, small voice", I think she missed a trick by not having Dear Lord and Father of mankind, but what would I know?
I know quite a few church musicians who would consider that the too obvious, too on the nose choice, and therefore best passed over.
Today, we had:
“Love Divine, All Loves Excelling”/HYFRYDOL
“O, For a Thousand Tongues to Sing”/AZMON
“Let Us Build a House” (“All Are Welcome”)/TWO OAKS
Strange that on Trinity Sunday you had a hymn often associated with Unitarianism
First Sunday after Trinity at our place.
The sound system was not working well so in the choir stalls we could hardly hear the readings or the sermon. The hymns are chosen by the Director of Music and so far no visitor has changed them.
However the sermon began by insisting that there are no labels or divisions as Jesus Christ is our Head.
Londonderry Air was almost unsingable for me, starting with a low A. Repton is too low as well, but everyone else seems to manage.
Puer nobis nascitur is one of my favourite hymn-tunes - especially as rendered by the Gabrieli Consort as part of the Praetorius Christmas Mass* (aka The Best CD Of All Time™).
It's my tune of choice for On Jordan's Bank, as it's the one I grew up with an am fond of for that text.
Today, we had
O, For A Thousand Tongues (AZMON)
In Christ There Is No East or West (MCKEE)
Baptized in Water (BUNESSAN)
This morning I attended the morning service of the annual Worship &Music Conference of the (American) Presbyterian Association of Musicians. (Week 2 of the conference, which has two identical weeks, started last night and will continue through Friday night, but I didn’t make it to the opening service last night.) The hymns this morning were:
“Come Thou Fount of Every Blessing”/NETTLETON
“God of Compassion, in Mercy Befriend Us”/O QUANTA QUALIA
“We Believe in One God”/NICEA
“When the Poor Ones” (Cuando el pobre)/EL CAMINO
Yes, you’re right. I seem to have lost a week somewhere
Very careless. Have you looked behind the sofa?
I missed Pentecost because I was unwell and the following two Sundays I was on holiday, so that left me somewhat disorientated. I don’t even know where the sofa is.
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Does anyone remember singing the tune from 'the pink book' at school in the 1970s? I've never come across it since. We tried a lot of tunes from that book, including a breakneck speed version of 'Through all the changing scenes of life'. But really the only one which seems to have stuck is 'O Jesus I have promised'.
If a heretical Dean had tried "missing out" the anthem there would have been ructions. 😈
This, perhaps? https://tinyurl.com/4hehb424
We always use that tune for "O Jesus I have promised" in this church! Had it just a couple of weeks ago.
Actually ‘At the name of Jesus’ (complete with twiddly bit between the verses) seems to have stuck around too.
Ah, a bit of rallentando before jumping into the next verse ...
Yes - and they're in the music! (Said organist was also not keen on the upper part of the Townend "The Lord's my shepherd", but reluctantly agreed to it).
FYI: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnSB-ycjIu4
Good for him.
Solemn Eucharist and Procession
The heavenly word proceeding forth (Fulda)
Mass of St Thomas
Celtic Alleluia
We hail thy presence glorious (Offertorium)
Be still for the presence of the Lord
Laud O Sion thy salvation (Lauda Sion by Cobb) with an acclamation after each verse which ended "Hosanna in the highest"
Therefore we before him bending (St Audrey)
Psalm 117 (to a single Anglican chant)
O praise ye the Lord (Laudate Dominum) vv 1&4
This was an ultra high church performance (RC friends are highly amused that such things go on in the modern age 😏🤣) but seemed to be enjoyed by the (small) congregation. To be fair they sang well for 20 souls and the most jarring bit musically was a bell jangling during the walk around the church. Puts you right off your playing!
Meanwhile, a nice selection of hymns is planned:
Alleluia, sing to Jesus (Hyfrydol)
For the beauty of the earth (England's Lane, I hope, rather than Dix!)
Let all mortal flesh keep silence (Picardy)
Lord, enthroned in heavenly splendour (St Helen)
The final hymn is the Processional, and The Sheet will be used for our customary two short hymns at Benediction (in the church hall):
O saving victim (Duke Street or Wareham)
Therefore we before him bending (probably Grafton)
The Lord's Prayer is also from The Sheet, possibly the Cliff Richard version (Auld Lang Syne) as that hasn't been sung for a while, and is one of FatherInCharge's favourite pieces of metrical dross...
It is to be hoped that there will be more people in church than the 18 who turned up for St Hallmark's Day Father's Day Trinity Sunday last week.
“When morning gilds the skies”. - Laudes Domini.
“God in each season” - Bunessan.
“Summer suns are glowing” - Ruth.
“The great forerunner of the morn” - Puer Nobis Nascitur (which no-one will know!)
“Be thou my vision” - Slane.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRdH6yQvXGE
Our Place will keep John the Baptist's Birthday on Tuesday, but I recall going to a certain London church one Sunday which coincided with that Feast. A hymn was sung - unfamiliar to me at that time, but which I've since come across now and then - in honour of J the B.
Here it is - original words by the Venerable Bede, music by W H Bell:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaLCIWV5FRk
I think The great forerunner of the morn is another paraphrase of Bede's original, but I guess you'll sing it to the tune by Michael Praetorius (no less):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbbYId6w6U4
It's a lovely piece of music, so I hope your flock copes well with it!
At first glance, I thought you meant Puer Nobis - Unto us a boy is born - which is the wrong metre.
The third line keeps making me think of "The clock struck one, the mouse ran down"!
Worth exploring - some are probably well-known, others less so, but most contain fairly objective theology IYSWIM.
Oh dear, I had no idea anyone actually sang that. I’ll pray for you.
[tangent] When St Cliff first released his Millennium Prayer, I remember I’m Sorry I Haven’t A Clue did a round of “One song to the tune of another” where they had to sing Auld Lang Syne to the tune of Batchelor Boy
Jesus is Lord! Creations Voice Proclaims it / JESUS IS LORD (Mansell)
All Heav'n Declares / ALL HEAV'N DECLARES (Richards)
From Heaven You Came / SERVANT KING (Kendrick)
Jesus! The Name High Overall / LYDIA
Christ is the king, o friends rejoice - Gelob’t Sei Gott ( Vulpius)
Dear Lord and father of mankind -Repton
I cannot tell - Londonderry Air
At this table we remember- Love Divine
Guide me O thou great redeemer -Cwm Rhondda
Quite a good selection (apart from the Londonderry Air one
Some Places are keeping Corpus Christi today, others The Birth Of John The Baptist, both with appropriate hymns. Or is it just plain Trinity 1, the start of that interminable *Green Sunday Sag*?
He is the Lord and he reigns on high
You give life, you are love
Set a fire down in my soul
Your love, shining like the sun
Lo! He comes, with Clouds Descending (Helmsley)
I Heard the Voice of Jesus Say (Kingsfold)
Amazing Grace (New Britain)
Will Your Anchor Hold (Will Your Anchor Hold)
It's essentially the "same" melody as Unto us is born a Son, but in triple time with the stresses on a different syllable (trochaic rather than iambic).
* it's on You-tube, and well worth a listen.
I'm trying to imagine singing the Lord's Prayer to Auld Lang Syne, but it doesn't seem to fit:
Our FA-ther, who art IN hea-VEN ...???
Our offerings today:
All my hope on God is founded - Michael
Alleluia, alleluia, give thanks to the risen Lord
Jesu, lover of my soul - Aberystwyth
As the deer pants for the water
Lord for the years - Lord of the Years
Considering that one of the lessons was Elijah in his cave, and the sermon had several references to the "still, small voice", I think she missed a trick by not having Dear Lord and Father of mankind, but what would I know?
It was Sanctuary Sunday (news to me, but I'm not objecting) here today, focussing on the experiences of refugees and migrants.
It's Auld Lang Syne to the tune of Bachelor Boy that I've been attempting and I think I've finally got it to work. Should old acqua-ain-tance be-e forgot and ne-ver brought to mi-ind...
May you be forgiven for that link @Nenya ....
Strange that on Trinity Sunday you had a hymn often associated with Unitarianism
The mass setting was from the Palestinian Christian Community: Mass of the Holy Family (Yusef Khill), and the choir sang in Arabic for the first ever time in this church. A visitor from Lebanon recognised the setting and was generous in their praise for the (attempted) pronunciation.
Hymns were...different to usual:
Sing out gladly (Munezero! - our speaker from a local refugee support group has Rwanda family heritage)
In a deep unbounded darkness (words based on an ancient Chinese poem by Mary Louise Bingle/ Divinum Mysterium)
Blessed be God (Salvador Martinez / Philippines)
Goodness is stronger than evil (Desmond Tutu/SA)
He came down (Cameroons / traditional)
Jesus Christ our Living Lord (Erzsebet Turmezei / Szokolay Sandor)
Gotta be fair to the choir - 'cos they weren't asked to sing Stanford here were they - they all did a top job and gave it full effort.
Cheers
Heron
Immortal invisible (St Denio)
Jesu the very thiught of thee (St Agnes)
Dear Lord and Father (Repton)
Living Lord
Alban high in glory shining (Marching)
A less than insoiring service although I appreciated the nod to St Alban.
Evensong
Blest creator of the light (Vienna)
O Jesus I have promised (Day of rest) 😳
Now it is eventide time to cease from labour(?)
The last one was out of Mission Praise I think (it was a scrappy photocopy and the words were unclear but I think that it was how it began) the music was seriously wretched of the very worst slush 🤮
Or the 2nd Sunday after Pentecost, or the 12th Sunday in Ordinary Time.
One of my favorites!
I know quite a few church musicians who would consider that the too obvious, too on the nose choice, and therefore best passed over.
Today, we had:
“Love Divine, All Loves Excelling”/HYFRYDOL
“O, For a Thousand Tongues to Sing”/AZMON
“Let Us Build a House” (“All Are Welcome”)/TWO OAKS
First Sunday after Trinity at our place.
The sound system was not working well so in the choir stalls we could hardly hear the readings or the sermon. The hymns are chosen by the Director of Music and so far no visitor has changed them.
However the sermon began by insisting that there are no labels or divisions as Jesus Christ is our Head.
Londonderry Air was almost unsingable for me, starting with a low A. Repton is too low as well, but everyone else seems to manage.
It's my tune of choice for On Jordan's Bank, as it's the one I grew up with an am fond of for that text.
Today, we had
O, For A Thousand Tongues (AZMON)
In Christ There Is No East or West (MCKEE)
Baptized in Water (BUNESSAN)
Yes, you’re right. I seem to have lost a week somewhere
“Come Thou Fount of Every Blessing”/NETTLETON
“God of Compassion, in Mercy Befriend Us”/O QUANTA QUALIA
“We Believe in One God”/NICEA
“When the Poor Ones” (Cuando el pobre)/EL CAMINO
Very careless. Have you looked behind the sofa?
I missed Pentecost because I was unwell and the following two Sundays I was on holiday, so that left me somewhat disorientated. I don’t even know where the sofa is.