What did you sing at church today?

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  • God's spirit is in my heart (Alan Dale & Hubert J Richards)
    Gosh, haven't sung that for ages. It has to be sung in a certain way to succeed.

  • 2 Timothy 4 tomorrow.

    “I will sing the wondrous story” - Hyfrydol.
    “My Jesus, my Saviour” (Darlene Zschech).
    “Through all the changing scenes of life” - Wiltshire.
    “I know not why God’s wondrous grace” (James McGranahan)
    “Fight the good fight” - Duke Street.

  • Alan29Alan29 Shipmate
    God's spirit is in my heart (Alan Dale & Hubert J Richards)
    Gosh, haven't sung that for ages. It has to be sung in a certain way to succeed.

    It stopped being picked at ours after I accompanied in the style of You've got to pick a pocket or two for the verses and Oom pah pah for the choruses. Both from Oliver!
  • That sounds - er - marvellous!
  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    I'm just back from singing the Saturday Mass at St Aloysius' Church in Glasgow with Scottish Voices, which was excellent fun.

    Our offerings were:

    Missa verbum supernum - Rupert Jeffcoat
    Let all mortal flesh keep silence - Edward Bairstow
    Ave verum corpus - William Byrd

    Hymns:

    Amazing grace - usual tune, but with a rather nicer harmony, which made it almost palatable
    King of glory, King of peace - Gwalchmai

    Organ voluntary - something rather jolly by Guilmant
  • Alan29Alan29 Shipmate
    edited October 26
    Bairstow and Byrd - lovely. The misereres at the end of the Byrd always reduce me to jelly to the point of not being able to sing. Ive never heard of that Mass or its composer. Someone local?
    I ve just looked him up he has a very impressive Wiki entry, so there's me told!
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rupert_Jeffcoat
  • DardaDarda Shipmate
    At 9 o'clock Communion
    Jesus is King - Own tune (Wendy Churchill)
    May the mind of Christ my Saviour - ST LEONARDS
    Go Forth and Tell! - WOODLANDS
  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    Alan29 wrote: »
    Bairstow and Byrd - lovely. The misereres at the end of the Byrd always reduce me to jelly to the point of not being able to sing. Ive never heard of that Mass or its composer. Someone local?
    I ve just looked him up he has a very impressive Wiki entry, so there's me told!
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rupert_Jeffcoat

    I met Rupert a few times at Cathedral Organists' Association conferences when he was organist at Coventry - he's quite a character. I was quite taken with the Mass, which isn't at all difficult to sing, and is scored in such a way that it can be sung by any forces from (literally) two voices to full SATB.
    Our offerings at St Pete's today were rather more prosaic:

    O worship the King - Hanover
    God is good - Kendrick <rolleyes>
    O thou, who at thy Eucharist didst pray - Song 1 (that's more like it!) :heart:
    O let the Son of God enfold you - Spirit Song
    All glory, laud and honour - St Theodulph


  • Gather Us In
    Comfort, Comfort All My People
    Brother, Sister, Let Me Serve You
    Beauty For Brokenness
  • PuzzlerPuzzler Shipmate
    Another village Harvest.
    Come you thankful people come
    All creatures of our God and king
    We plough the fields
    To thee O Lord our hearts we raise
    Now thank we all our God.
  • Puzzler wrote: »
    Another village Harvest.
    Come you thankful people come
    All creatures of our God and king
    We plough the fields
    To thee O Lord our hearts we raise
    Now thank we all our God.

    A fine selection of traditional hymns! Were they all sung to what one might call the traditional/usual tunes?
  • How great Thou art (How great Thou art)
    Great is the Lord, and most worthy of praise (Steve McEwan)
    Take my life and let it be (Consecration)
    In Heavenly Love abiding (Penlan)

  • PuzzlerPuzzler Shipmate
    Puzzler wrote: »
    Another village Harvest.
    Come you thankful people come
    All creatures of our God and king
    We plough the fields
    To thee O Lord our hearts we raise
    Now thank we all our God.

    A fine selection of traditional hymns! Were they all sung to what one might call the traditional/usual tunes?

    Yes, absolutely. Sorry I did not have time to name them earlier.
  • Puzzler wrote: »
    Puzzler wrote: »
    Another village Harvest.
    Come you thankful people come
    All creatures of our God and king
    We plough the fields
    To thee O Lord our hearts we raise
    Now thank we all our God.

    A fine selection of traditional hymns! Were they all sung to what one might call the traditional/usual tunes?

    Yes, absolutely. Sorry I did not have time to name them earlier.

    No problem! One or two of them have alternative tunes - Now thank we all our God, for example.
  • PuzzlerPuzzler Shipmate
    Only Nun Danket will do.
  • Puzzler wrote: »
    Only Nun Danket will do.
    Indeed. I’ve never encountered an alternative tune (other than by mention in this thread), and hope never to do so in real life.


  • TruronTruron Shipmate
    Only one booking today which was Mattins so able to attend HC early which makes a nice change.

    My Father for another night (St Timothy)
    usual canticles etc
    My God how wonderful thou art (Westminster)
    The King of love (Dominus regit me)
    O Jesus I have promised (Wolvercote)

    Nothing much to report other than Wolvercote going well.
  • ArethosemyfeetArethosemyfeet Shipmate, Heaven Host
    We had:
    Lord of creation (SLANE)
    Christ be beside me
    Spirit of the living God
    When the storms of life are raging
    From heaven you came
  • OblatusOblatus Shipmate
    edited October 26
    Piglet wrote: »
    I don't mean to cast aspersions on the sincerity of the choir at King's; but the difference in congregation sizes does make it feel rather more like a "performance", and because their reputation is so high, you tend to expect perfection. The first time I went there, there was a slightly iffy* entry at one point, which served to reassure us that even they weren't infallible!

    A similar thing happened during my one visit to King's for Choral Evensong. The precentor (chaplain?) sang a versicle to a suddenly freeform set of pitches (OK, wrong notes), and a handy hum was immediately heard to help the choir respond without any delay at all. Impressive but not surprising.

  • NenyaNenya All Saints Host, Ecclesiantics & MW Host
    I am a friend of God
    Blessed be the name of the Lord
    Shout to the Lord all the earth, let us sing
    All to Jesus I surrender
    You are worthy of it all
  • Sunday 2nd is being kept as All Saints' Day at Our Place, and the hymns are some of what you might call The Usual Suspects:

    For all the saints vv1-5 (Sine Nomine)
    Ye watchers and ye holy ones (Lasst Uns Erfreuen)
    Lord's Prayer (from The Sheet - possibly the Cliff Richard version)
    Blest are the pure in heart (Franconia)
    For all the saints vv6-8 (Sine Nomine)
  • SpikeSpike Ecclesiantics & MW Host, Admin Emeritus
    Lord's Prayer (from The Sheet - possibly the Cliff Richard version)

    I’ll be praying for you
  • Alan29Alan29 Shipmate
    Some verses of For all the saints tomorrow. We used to do half at the start of Mass and the rest at the end. Singng them all at once is a bit of a slog especially when in G.
  • Alan29 wrote: »
    Some verses of For all the saints tomorrow. We used to do half at the start of Mass and the rest at the end. Singng them all at once is a bit of a slog especially when in G.

    I think that's one of the reasons why Our Place does the same - apart from anything else, nearly half the congregation drifts in after the opening hymn, and it is indeed a bit much to expect a dozen people (our usual Sunday attendance is 20-25) to manage all eight verses in one go!
  • All Souls' Day (not really a Baptist "thing"!).

    “You holy angels bright” - Darwall's 148th.
    “Rejoice in God's saints” - Paderborn (in a slightly jazzy arrangement).
    "Those hearts that we have treasured” - Salley Garden.
    “Who are these like stars appearing?” - All Saints.
    “Be still, my soul” - Finlandia.

  • DardaDarda Shipmate
    First Sunday in the month "Hymns of Praise" service.
    Ye Holy Angels Bright / DARWALL
    O God, You Search Me / RADIANT
    There Is a Higher Throne / own tune
    Take Up Thy Cross, the Saviour Said / BRESLAU
    Jesu, Lover of My Soul / ABERYSTWYTH
  • Words by a local composer to Morning Has Broken
    Inspired by Love and Anger Sally Gardens
    For All the Saints John Bell
    The Summons
    For a postlude I played For all the Saints (Sine Nomine)
  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    Alan29 wrote: »
    ... Singing them all at once is a bit of a slog especially when in G.
    It is indeed, which is why I asked today's organist to turn the appliance down a tone. Much as I loathe electrones, the transposing button has its uses!

    Our offerings today:

    He who would valiant be (sadly sans hobgoblins) - Monks Gate
    Ascribe greatness to our God
    Be still, my soul - Finlandia
    Take my life, and let it be - Nottingham
    For all the saints (all 8 verses)* - Sine Nomine

    * there are two versions in the ghastly orange book; we had the bastardised version this morning, but we've got it again at Evensong, this time to the right words.

  • Early Service
    Praise my Soul the King of Heaven (Lauda Anima)
    God of Grace and God of Glory (Rhuddlan)
    Jesus I King and I will Extol Him (Wendy Churchill)
    I Stand Amazed in the Presence (CH Gabriel)

    Morning Service (of Baptism)
    10,000 Reasons (Matt Redman)
    King of Kings (Brooke Ligertwood)
    Goodness of God (Ben Fielding, Brian Johnson, Edward Martin Cash, Jason Ingram, Jenn Johnson)
    Worthy (It was my Cross You Bore) (Chris Brown)
    Firm Foundation (Cody Carnes)
    In Christ Alone (Stuart Townend)

    Same Text in both: Hebrews 10:19-25


  • NenyaNenya All Saints Host, Ecclesiantics & MW Host
    My Lighthouse
    Everyone needs compassion, the kindness of a saviour
    Open my eyes, Lord, I want to see Jesus (took me right back to university Christian Union days)
    All because of your love
    A thousand times I've failed, still your mercy remains (a new one on me and, as I think @Piglet would say, if I never hear it again it will be too soon)
  • All Souls' Day (not really a Baptist "thing"!).

    “You holy angels bright” - Darwall's 148th.
    “Rejoice in God's saints” - Paderborn (in a slightly jazzy arrangement).
    "Those hearts that we have treasured” - Salley Garden.
    “Who are these like stars appearing?” - All Saints.
    “Be still, my soul” - Finlandia.

    Quite a good selection for combining All Saints with All Souls IYSWIM.

    I haven't checked out the rest of the service, but the Old-Catholic Cathedral in Utrecht (NL) started with For all the saints (in Dutch) to RVW's Sine Nomine, complete with rather feeble 'poms'...

    The liturgy included a Commemoration of the Faithful Departed at the end of the Eucharist - I gather that this is their usual practice, rather than holding a separate service.
  • HeronHeron Shipmate
    A few lovely bits this morning. All Saints + curate leaving.

    Organ Prelude: Hymn Prelude on Rhosymedre Vaughan Williams
    Mass setting: Mozart in C Spatzenmesse
    Anthem: Beati mundo corde Ives
    Organ Voluntary: Les Cops Glorieux: Joie et clarte Messiaen

    Hymns:

    As the deer
    For all the saints (Sine Nomine)
    God be in my head
    Be thou my vision (Slane)


    ISTM that 'For all the saints' should have been the opener, with 'As the deer' as the song of approach at the offertory. Still, I'm not in charge.

    Always love this mass setting. The Ives was new to me, and I do like his stuff.

    - may post again later, we have our 'remembered with love' service this evening.

    Cheers

    Heron (not in choir today)

  • Bishops FingerBishops Finger Shipmate
    edited November 2
    ETA:

    My mistake - the Old-Catholics included the Commemoration of the Faithful Departed (candles, names etc.) as part of the intercessions i.e. before the Eucharistic prayer.

    Memo to self - check facts before posting.

    They ended with what I think must have been Ye holy angels bright, to Darwall's 148th.
  • Baptist TrainfanBaptist Trainfan Shipmate
    edited November 2
    All Souls' Day (not really a Baptist "thing"!).

    “You holy angels bright” - Darwall's 148th.
    “Rejoice in God's saints” - Paderborn (in a slightly jazzy arrangement).
    "Those hearts that we have treasured” - Salley Garden.
    “Who are these like stars appearing?” - All Saints.
    “Be still, my soul” - Finlandia.

    Quite a good selection for combining All Saints with All Souls IYSWIM.

    That was the general idea. After the first hymn we said the "Te Deum" responsively (definitely not a Baptist thing!). The "children's talk" was about "ordinary saints" (i.e. us) and the sermon about "souls" and Christian hope. We also had a time of reflection and remembrance. Vaughan Williams didn't get a look-in.

  • All Souls' Day (not really a Baptist "thing"!).

    “You holy angels bright” - Darwall's 148th.
    “Rejoice in God's saints” - Paderborn (in a slightly jazzy arrangement).
    "Those hearts that we have treasured” - Salley Garden.
    “Who are these like stars appearing?” - All Saints.
    “Be still, my soul” - Finlandia.

    Quite a good selection for combining All Saints with All Souls IYSWIM.

    That was the general idea. After the first hymn we said the "Te Deum" responsively (definitely not a Baptist thing!). The "children's talk" was about "ordinary saints" (i.e. us) and the sermon about "souls" and Christian hope. We also had a time of reflection and remembrance. Vaughan Williams didn't get a look-in.

    Well, For all the saints can be a bit much with all 8 verses, but nevertheless I think it's a Good Idea to try to blend All Saints and All Souls in the way you describe.
  • ArethosemyfeetArethosemyfeet Shipmate, Heaven Host
    We roundly ignored All Saints/Souls (presumably for fear of raising shambling hordes of angry deceased presbyterians) and had:
    Here in this place
    'I have a dream', a man once said
    Praise my soul
    Heaven shall not wait (a new one on me, though it's almost as old as I am, courtesy of John Bell. Some tricky rhythms but I got there in the end)
    Your hand O God has guided
  • For @Piglet , and anyone else lamenting the absence of Hobgoblins and Foul Fiends:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KY3MnQRVmOc&list=RDoPk0xgHqQ4M&index=26
  • HeronHeron Shipmate
    'Remembered with Love' at our shack instead of evensong. A lovely service with some top music.

    The choir sang:
    Pie Jesu - Rutter, from his Requiem. Just wonderful.
    Nunc Dimittis - Dyson in F
    Kontakion for the Dead. Always wonderful.

    Hymns were:
    Sing my soul when hope is sleeping - can't remember the tune used, a familiar 8787
    Be still my soul (Finalandia)
    There's a longing in our hearts O Lord - by Anne Quigley.
    The King of Love - Dominus Regit Me

    I was very moved by the Pie Jesu, the Kontakion, the sermon, and by the Anne Quigley hymn.

    Overall super - and great to have requiem pieces in regular worship.

    'Weeping over the grave we make our song'



    Heron

  • Alan29Alan29 Shipmate
    We sing the Quigley in Advent. It is a favourite.
  • TruronTruron Shipmate
    @Baptist Trainfan I think you put together a very skilful act of worship there. I had no idea that the Te Deum was used in Free church circles although I did hear it once in a Cornish Methodist chapel. Mind you it was a 'high' chapel and had candles on the Table!

    @Alan29 have you tried playing Sine Nomine in F? Many years ago I came across it in an ancient Anglican publication called the Mirfield Mission hymn book. In the many years since I always use it in smaller/country places retaining the normal setting in G when there is a choir.

    So to my wanderings today

    "Solemn Eucharist for All Saints"

    For all the Saints (SN in G!) sung in a long procession which needed extempore music before the last verse.
    Harris in F and Shaw folk Mass
    Te Deum to chants
    Plainsong Sequence EH 253 Spouse of Christ
    Who are these like stars (All Saints)
    Let all mortal flesh (Picardy)
    The Saints of God went forward (Morning Light). from The Sheet*

    *this was in the Mirfield book oddly enough and has nice words.

    A very enjoyable service if a tad dated in style 😏

    Mattins

    Jerusalem the golden (Ewing). a nod to All SS perhaps 🤔
    usual canticles
    Chikdren of the heavenly King (Melling)
    Lights abode (Regent Square)

    A small number in this village but very vocal!

    Evensong

    O Saviour Jesu not alone (Holley)
    O heavenly Jerusalem (St Alphege)
    Palms of glory (Palms of glory)
    Ye watchers and ye holy ones

    Again a small number in a rural place but good singing. I always rather enjoy the All Saintstide hymns.




  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    For @Piglet , and anyone else lamenting the absence of Hobgoblins and Foul Fiends:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KY3MnQRVmOc&list=RDoPk0xgHqQ4M&index=26

    Thanks BF - that was one of the CDs that lived in our car for a very long time - brings back the loveliest of memories! :heart:

    As it was the first Sunday of the month, we had Evensong:

    Preces & Responses - Ferial
    Psalm 114 - Tonus Peregrinus
    Mag & Nunc to usual chants by Robinson and Farrant

    Hymns:

    (BONK!)* For all the saints - Sine Nomine - this time with the right words
    Let saints on earth in concert sing - Dundee**
    Hail, gladdening light - Sebaste

    * does anyone in church music circles not refer to it as "BONK! For all the saints"?

    ** sadly, without the long notes - I doubt that I could persuade The Organist Who Doesn't Practise™ that there Should Be Long Notes in a metrical psalm!
  • Alan29Alan29 Shipmate
    @Truron, it's in F in our hymn book. Hooray!
  • PuzzlerPuzzler Shipmate
    All Saints Day
    No organist, so no sung HC settings.
    Piano accompaniment for hymns.

    Who are these like stars appearing? (All Saints.)
    Blest are the pure in heart. ( Franconia )

    How sweet the name of Jesus sounds. ( St. Peter )
    At this table we remember. ( Love divine )
    For all the saints, vv 1-4, 8.
    ( Sine Nomine in G )
  • Heron wrote: »
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    Kontakion for the Dead. Always wonderful.

    All 24 verses? Or just the preliminary verse (and possibly Verse 1), which is all that appear in many English Hymn Books?
  • We roundly ignored All Saints/Souls (presumably for fear of raising shambling hordes of angry deceased presbyterians) . . . .
    All Saints (but not All Souls) is widely observed by American Presbyterians, at least those of the PC(USA)-variety. That said, our place, which has long marked the day with a lot of music and with remembrance of those who’ve died during the last year (for whom extended family may be present), has for some years now observed All Saints on the last Sunday of October rather than the first Sunday of November. The reason is that events beyond our control can make getting to our church very challenging on the first Sunday of November.

    So, we had “For All the Saints,” etc., last week. But the result of moving All Saints to the last Sunday of October means that Reformation Sunday, traditionally the last Sunday in October, gets bumped, along with the hymns that typically go with it, and I miss singing them. So I was very disappointed to learn that while we were out of town this morning, one of those Reformation Day staples, “I Greet Thee, Who My Sure Redeemer Art” (published in the Genevan Psalter during Calvin’s time, despite not being a psalm or paraphrase, and often attributed to Calvin), was on the menu.


  • HeronHeron Shipmate
    Heron wrote: »
    '
    Kontakion for the Dead. Always wonderful.

    All 24 verses? Or just the preliminary verse (and possibly Verse 1), which is all that appear in many English Hymn Books?

    The version used is the 'Birbeck' shown here (link to RSCM).

    Please may I ask for a link to the '24 verses' - it seems my google-fu is weak.

    Cheers

    Heron
  • Baptist TrainfanBaptist Trainfan Shipmate
    edited November 3
    Truron wrote: »
    @Baptist Trainfan I think you put together a very skilful act of worship there. I had no idea that the Te Deum was used in Free church circles although I did hear it once in a Cornish Methodist chapel. Mind you it was a 'high' chapel and had candles on the Table!
    Well, thank you. You will realise that the freedom - and challenge! - of planning Nonconformist worship is starting with a "blank sheet of paper" each week; which isn't to say that there isn't a familiar "flow" to the service. My childhood background was CofE and this does come to the surface from time to time; I like to include responsive readings or Psalms as these involve the congregation. My aim is, without manipulation, to lead the congregation along a path to which all elements of the service contribute. Sometimes I get it right and sometimes I don't!

    Re. @Piglet and the "Bonk". I used to go to a church where the organist had the habit of playing an introductory or "leading" note at the start of each verse of a hymn. The congregation knew this so didn't come in too soon. However "Sine Nomine" caused a problem which was never fully resolved: was it leading note/Bonk/"For ..." or Bonk/leading note/"For ..."? I can't remember what we ended up with!

  • Alan29Alan29 Shipmate
    If the organist always keeps the beat going (silently) between the verses of hymns the "bonk" doesn't actually tell the congregation when to come in, they will feel it.
  • ArethosemyfeetArethosemyfeet Shipmate, Heaven Host

    Re. @Piglet and the "Bonk". I used to go to a church where the organist had the habit of playing an introductory or "leading" note at the start of each verse of a hymn. The congregation knew this so didn't come in too soon. However "Sine Nomine" caused a problem which was never fully resolved: was it leading note/Bonk/"For ..." or Bonk/leading note/"For ..."? I can't remember what we ended up with!

    Ah, the dreaded "gathering note" that means no-one is quite sure when to come in. I took to positioning myself where I could see the organist's hands!
  • For @Piglet , and anyone else lamenting the absence of Hobgoblins and Foul Fiends:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KY3MnQRVmOc&list=RDoPk0xgHqQ4M&index=26

    Sorry - I'm usually a fan of Maddy Prior, but I find this a bit too shrill. Love the accompaniment, though.
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