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<br />Yep, for the "headship" ones, and they're still demanding more, because apparently homophobia demands they be super-duper separate.

<div class="QuoteText">And we're not really talking about "object to a woman" in some sort of male headship way, as we are talking about having a soft bias to not see women a

<br />Yes.<br />Sure - there are dyed-in-the-wool patriarchal fundamentalists who will auto-vote republican, but those people don't matter. The people that matter are the ones who might vo

I attribute much of the loss to a growing ‘male headship’ culture, which I think was less prevalent in evangelicalism say a generation ago. My wife was a lone voice at a PCC meeting opposing the moti

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single? Also if you disagree with the male headship theology, why not leave? Certainly in my experience, there have always been far more single women in Evangelical churches, to the extent that many

single? Also if you disagree with the male headship theology, why not leave? Certainly in my experience, there have always been far more single women in Evangelical churches, to the extent that many

none of whom have a girlfriend. OK, the male headship theology – which I personally don’t support – doesn’t exactly entice and retain women, but I don’t think this is just an odd conclusion from a sm

full part in worship, and b) as women need male headship, they should look for a family where the husband would take that function......if you find anything like that, know it isn't written by anyone

<div class="QuoteText">Ah, male headship and all that…<br />Trained at Moore College?</div>

Ah, male headship and all that…<br />Trained at Moore College?

Pence: another Warrior for Male Headship Blonde Blue-Eyed Jesus Christianity.

that's part of the attraction of things like headship theology. It is also part of the attraction of slavery and white supremacy. As the balance of power in churches has shifted, a proportion of thos

are very invested in the idea of male "headship" (<a href="https://forums.shipoffools.com/search?Search=headship" rel="nofollow">occasionally discussed in this for

You seem to think the notion of federal headship takes care of this. I cannot see a mechanism that does away with a literal Adam especially when pretty well all the NT writers who mention him do so as

href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_headship" rel="nofollow">Federal Headship</a> (which is by no means exclusively about theological matters) makes clear.<br

href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_headship" rel="nofollow">federal headship</a>. Do you find anything in this theory to take issue with? (NB - again - it makes

'above' the wife.<br />I know that 'headship' does not necessarily mean 'above' but it is difficult to see how treating the Trinity as if they are linked in a 'Chain of Command' is what Paul in

should alert us to the fact that all that headship, haircuts and veils stuff shouldn't have been there, because that then makes it <i>'the first place issue'</i> that Paul would be writin

is expressing a very similar understanding of headship to 1 Cor 11:3.<br />But if you think it is post Pauline, then I guess you can argue that the later Ephesians 5:23 has been back edited int