Fascism uses propaganda as a way of mobilizing a population behind the leader. Fascist propaganda creates an awesome sense of loss, and a desire for revenge against those who are responsible. In the face of the supposed betrayal of the nation during World War I by Jewish “vipers,” Hitler describes the proper response to have been to place the “leaders of the whole movement…behind bars.” Hitler writes, “[a]ll the implements of military power should have been ruthlessly used for the extermination of this pestilence. The parties should have been dissolved, the Reichstag brought to its senses, with bayonets if necessary, but, best of all, dissolved at once.” The goal of fascist propaganda is to mobilize a population to violently overthrew multi-party democracy and replace it with the leader.
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The video begins with Trump’s eyes in the shadow, and its second frame focuses the audience on the Capitol building – America’s Reichstag, where the decisions being denounced by the rally’s organizers were being made that day. The third frame of the video is the Hollywood sign in Los Angeles. This image immediately directs the attention of an audience attuned to an American fascist ideology to the supposedly elite class of Jews who, according to this ideology, control Hollywood. The appearance of the Hollywood sign makes no other sense in the context of a short video about an election. The next two images, of the UN General Assembly and the EU Parliament floor, connect supposed Jewish control of Hollywood to the goal of world government. As we have seen, according to Nazi ideology, Jews seek to use their control of the press and the entertainment industry to destroy individual nations. The beginning of the video focuses our attention on this supposedly “globalist,” but really Jewish, threat.
The next clip lingers on Joe Biden, with a vacant stare in his eyes and the video footage slowed, while Trump’s inauguration speech plays, “For too long, a small group in our nation’s capital has reaped the rewards of government, while the people have borne the cost.” It is clear from the image of Biden that he is not making the decisions. The video shifts to an image of Senator Charles Schumer, reminding the viewer of prominent Jewish leaders of the Democratic party. Schumer is wearing a Kente cloth, an image evocative of Ku Klux Klan ideology — that Jews support Black liberation movements as a way to undermine white rule and destroy the nation. The next frame shows the Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi, flanked by two Jewish Congressman, Representatives Nadler and Schiff. Pelosi, too, is controlled by Jews.
Who, then, are this “small group in our nation’s capital”? The video suggests it is a group that controls Hollywood and the Democratic Party, and seeks to use Black liberation movements to undermine the nation, and bring about world government. In Nazi ideology, as well as its US counterpart, this group is the Jews.
It goes on from there. I'd recommend reading the whole thing if you have a spare 5-10 minutes.
It appears he still believes he is the real president.
At least his daily routine hasn't changed. He did nothing except tweet and watch TV during the time he occupied the White House, and I'm sure he still watches TV, although tweeting is no longer an option.
And golf.
Yep, Nero fiddled while Rome burned (allegedly).
But we know someone tried to golf while America got sick. I say tried because I don't think he can golf very well.
Just found March 4th in the comments under the CNN article link in the QAnon thread. When Trump will be sworn in as the 19th US President. What?? I think those briefings he isn't going to see need to be exhaustive.
Fascism uses propaganda as a way of mobilizing a population behind the leader. Fascist propaganda creates an awesome sense of loss, and a desire for revenge against those who are responsible. In the face of the supposed betrayal of the nation during World War I by Jewish “vipers,” Hitler describes the proper response to have been to place the “leaders of the whole movement…behind bars.” Hitler writes, “[a]ll the implements of military power should have been ruthlessly used for the extermination of this pestilence. The parties should have been dissolved, the Reichstag brought to its senses, with bayonets if necessary, but, best of all, dissolved at once.” The goal of fascist propaganda is to mobilize a population to violently overthrew multi-party democracy and replace it with the leader.
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The video begins with Trump’s eyes in the shadow, and its second frame focuses the audience on the Capitol building – America’s Reichstag, where the decisions being denounced by the rally’s organizers were being made that day. The third frame of the video is the Hollywood sign in Los Angeles. This image immediately directs the attention of an audience attuned to an American fascist ideology to the supposedly elite class of Jews who, according to this ideology, control Hollywood. The appearance of the Hollywood sign makes no other sense in the context of a short video about an election. The next two images, of the UN General Assembly and the EU Parliament floor, connect supposed Jewish control of Hollywood to the goal of world government. As we have seen, according to Nazi ideology, Jews seek to use their control of the press and the entertainment industry to destroy individual nations. The beginning of the video focuses our attention on this supposedly “globalist,” but really Jewish, threat.
The next clip lingers on Joe Biden, with a vacant stare in his eyes and the video footage slowed, while Trump’s inauguration speech plays, “For too long, a small group in our nation’s capital has reaped the rewards of government, while the people have borne the cost.” It is clear from the image of Biden that he is not making the decisions. The video shifts to an image of Senator Charles Schumer, reminding the viewer of prominent Jewish leaders of the Democratic party. Schumer is wearing a Kente cloth, an image evocative of Ku Klux Klan ideology — that Jews support Black liberation movements as a way to undermine white rule and destroy the nation. The next frame shows the Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi, flanked by two Jewish Congressman, Representatives Nadler and Schiff. Pelosi, too, is controlled by Jews.
Who, then, are this “small group in our nation’s capital”? The video suggests it is a group that controls Hollywood and the Democratic Party, and seeks to use Black liberation movements to undermine the nation, and bring about world government. In Nazi ideology, as well as its US counterpart, this group is the Jews.
It goes on from there. I'd recommend reading the whole thing if you have a spare 5-10 minutes.
IMHO if a golfer compulsively cheats, he is not really a good golfer. Do you really think a Golf Magazine is not kissing ass when someone in a leadership position helps to promote the sport. When I see the man golfing I see someone whacking weeds. Give him a scythe. He would get more done.
But the world's top sports teams and individuals don't always win. Federer, Nadal, that Serbian whose name I can't spell, Serena, Lewis Hamilton, Bay City Rollers (not a real team AFAIK - please substitute a very good US sports team ... you may notice I'm running out of sport expertise ) so how can an amateur who had a part-time job as US President and never trains, plausibly claim to be any better than 'quite good'?
So the "trial" begins. With a "jury" composed of "jurors" who under normal circumstances would be disqualified.
I have an idea for a budding historian. Budding, because this would be a long, arduous assignment, requiring training in history, law, and a few other fields (perhaps necromancy). Follow the trial, closely. Analyse each senator's contribution, and their local political life (e.g., who was in fear of being 'primaried'), what they have said on and off the record, who lobbied them on various issues, etc. I realise that this is a lot to ask, to analyse the background of 100 "jurors", their activities during the trial, but it would be a monument to what might be a pivotal moment in the life of that Republic. Pivotal, because if they do not convict (they won't) license will be given to destroy democracy in the US. If some young person wants to set out on a career as the American Sallust, now is the time; Catiline is before us.
If some young person wants to set out on a career as the American Sallust, now is the time; Catiline is before us.
Where's Cicero when we need him so badly?
Quo usque tandem abutere, Catilina, patientia nostra? Quam diu etiam furor iste tuus nos eludet? Quem ad finem sese effrenata iactabit audacia? <<snip>> O tempora, o mores! Senatus haec intellegit, consul videt; hic tamen vivit. Vivit? Immo vero, etiam in senatum venit, fit publici consili particeps, notat et designat oculis ad caedem unum quemque nostrum. Nos autem fortes viri satis facere rei publicae videmur, si istius furorem ac tela vitamus.
Just how far, Catiline, will you abuse our patience? How long will this madness of yours outmaneuver us? To what limits will your unbridled craziness hurl us? Oh what times these are! Oh what a situation this is! The Senate knows what's going on, the consul sees it, and yet he lives on. Lives on? Would you believe it? He even comes into the Senate, he makes himself a participant in the public debate, he notes and marks with his eyes each one of us for destruction. And we, brave men that we are, think we've done our duty to the state if we simply duck the fury of his weaponry.
They won't convict him. (If they do, I'm screaming "Hallelujah!" and breaking out the drinks.) But we have at least disgraced him (Mr. Two-Time Impeachee) and probably put an end to his future political career, if he ever really had a shot at that (given his age). We have also placed a sign in the road that reads "We're paying attention, so don't go down this road, future idiots." It may not stop all of them, but it's a helluva lot better than if we had never impeached him at all.
And I fear we will be watching the Republicans put a final nail into the coffin lid on their party, as this cannot be seen as anything but sheer craven cowardice.
So the "trial" begins. With a "jury" composed of "jurors" who under normal circumstances would be disqualified.
I have an idea for a budding historian. Budding, because this would be a long, arduous assignment, requiring training in history, law, and a few other fields (perhaps necromancy). Follow the trial, closely. Analyse each senator's contribution, and their local political life (e.g., who was in fear of being 'primaried'), what they have said on and off the record, who lobbied them on various issues, etc.
To simplify this, here is the "short list" to begin with. These are Republican Senators whose seats are up for election in 2022:
R. Blunt (MO)
J. Boozman (AR)
R. Burr (NC)
M. Crapo (ID)
C. Grassley (IA)
J. Hoeven (ND)
R. Johnson (WI)
J. Kennedy (LA)
J. Lankford (OK)
M. Lee (UT)
J. Moran (KS)
L. Murkoswski (AK)
R. Paul (KY)
R. Portman (OH)
M. Rubio (FL)
T. Scott (SC)
R. Shelby (AL)
J. Thune (SD)
P. Toomey (PA)
T. Young (IN)
Senators in bold have made statements about their intention to seek re-election or filed statements of candidacy with the FEC. Those with strikethrough have announced their intention to retire from the Senate. Given that these twenty Senators are the ones most in danger of primary challenges it will be interesting to see if the four who have already announced their retirement behave any differently than the seven who know they'll be facing the voters again in two years.
And I fear we will be watching the Republicans put a final nail into the coffin lid on their party, as this cannot be seen as anything but sheer craven cowardice.
My fear is that it won't have that effect even though it ought to. The lesson of the last four years seems be that no matter how low the GOP sinks there is a rock solid core of tens of millions who will still support them. I hope this might jolt more of them to their senses but I don't expect it to.
For those who are interested in watching the event itself, the second Senate trial of Donald Trump will be livestreaming here starting around 1:00 pm Eastern Time (18:00 UTC).
Anyone else watching? I'm on CNN, but it's also on the WaPo, NY Times and other sites, as well as C-Span, as link above.
This is impressive. And the initial video documentation was even more shocking in its brutality than first time round, and they added some previously unseen material.
Anyone else watching? I'm on CNN, but it's also on the WaPo, NY Times and other sites, as well as C-Span, as link above.
This is impressive. And the initial video documentation was even more shocking in its brutality than first time round, and they added some previously unseen material.
And the defence is a mixture of waffle, half truths and outright lies with little internal consistency.
The video shown by the prosecution at the beginning of their arguments.
For those of you who were watching the defenses, presentation, note Mr Schoan is an Orthodox Jew which means whenever he takes a drink of water, he has to cover his head.
I couldn't bear listening to the defence. I turned off the livestream, and watched instead the NY Times update chats from their staff, which made more sense. (Not sure if it is/was behind a paywall; I have a subscription.)
The video shown by the prosecution at the beginning of their arguments.
For those of you who were watching the defenses, presentation, note Mr Schoan is an Orthodox Jew which means whenever he takes a drink of water, he has to cover his head.
Watch that guy. His headgear might be lined with tin foil, and he might intend to interfere with witnesses using his space laser. Oh no, hang on a minute...
(How is this going down with the faithful, who stormed the Capitol in response to a propaganda film insinuating a coming world government controlled by 'rootless intellectuals' who run Hollywood yadah yadah?).
AIUI some of the rioters are pretty upset. Their own defence is based on the argument that they were doing what the President told them to do. They're not best pleased that's he's now denying everything.
The defence submissions weren't just bad, they were appallingly bad. If there is any decent argument against the right of the Senate to try the impeachment of a former President (and personally I don't think there is), we didn't hear it from those lawyers.
Apparently Trump was also appalled, not least presumably because they contradicted the assertion that he didn't lose the election. But he still got 44 votes. Which made those GOP Senators' votes appalling too.
Apparently Trump was also appalled, not least presumably because they contradicted the assertion that he didn't lose the election.
I’m guessing that the 45th also wasn’t too keen on Bruce Castor suggesting that that the impeachment trial wasn’t needed to prevent this kind of thing in the future, because there’s always USDOJ, which knows how to bring criminal charges.
Via someone who still has access to her Twitter account:
Hillary Clinton
If Senate Republicans fail to convict Donald Trump, it won't be because the facts were with him or his lawyers mounted a competent defense. It will be because the jury includes his co-conspirators.
Via someone who still has access to her Twitter account:
Hillary Clinton
If Senate Republicans fail to convict Donald Trump, it won't be because the facts were with him or his lawyers mounted a competent defense. It will be because the jury includes his co-conspirators.
10 February 2021
No argument with ol' Hils here. She nailed it in one.
I'd like to see millions of decent Republicans send public messages to their Senators, saying "I voted for trump and I voted for you but if you let him get away with this you are a coward with no honour, no conscience. This is your chance to do the right thing (even though it may not benefit you) and many people will respect you for your courage."
(Enquiry: If a Senate vote (not the 'conviction' which needs 2/3) is split 50/50 does the VP get a casting vote? I'm thinking of procedural and similar votes.)
According to the BBC https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-56015742 Donald Trump could also be facing criminal charges in Georgia. I guess he'll find it more difficult to wriggle out of this one, if it happens.
According to the BBC https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-56015742 Donald Trump could also be facing criminal charges in Georgia. I guess he'll find it more difficult to wriggle out of this one, if it happens.
From what I’m hearing, criminal charges are what he’s really worried about. He knows the Senate isn’t likely to convict, but this process is showing just how vulnerable he could be in court, and just how difficult it could be for him to find any decent lawyers willing to represent him.
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Over at Just Security Jason Stanley has an analysis of the fascist ideas and imagery used in a film shown at Trump's rally just before the attack on the Capitol. A sample:
It goes on from there. I'd recommend reading the whole thing if you have a spare 5-10 minutes.
Yep, Nero fiddled while Rome burned (allegedly).
But we know someone tried to golf while America got sick. I say tried because I don't think he can golf very well.
And yet still cheats, apparently.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13845175/qanon-followers-convinced-trump-president-again-march-4/
That was a disturbing read.
Yankees.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/06/us/politics/trump-impeachment-trial.html
But isn't it that he must always win, so someone else must be the loser?
I have an idea for a budding historian. Budding, because this would be a long, arduous assignment, requiring training in history, law, and a few other fields (perhaps necromancy). Follow the trial, closely. Analyse each senator's contribution, and their local political life (e.g., who was in fear of being 'primaried'), what they have said on and off the record, who lobbied them on various issues, etc. I realise that this is a lot to ask, to analyse the background of 100 "jurors", their activities during the trial, but it would be a monument to what might be a pivotal moment in the life of that Republic. Pivotal, because if they do not convict (they won't) license will be given to destroy democracy in the US. If some young person wants to set out on a career as the American Sallust, now is the time; Catiline is before us.
They won’t convict.
But they will show everyone who watches the horrors of this ex president. I suppose that’s something.
Where's Cicero when we need him so badly?
Just how far, Catiline, will you abuse our patience? How long will this madness of yours outmaneuver us? To what limits will your unbridled craziness hurl us? Oh what times these are! Oh what a situation this is! The Senate knows what's going on, the consul sees it, and yet he lives on. Lives on? Would you believe it? He even comes into the Senate, he makes himself a participant in the public debate, he notes and marks with his eyes each one of us for destruction. And we, brave men that we are, think we've done our duty to the state if we simply duck the fury of his weaponry.
And I fear we will be watching the Republicans put a final nail into the coffin lid on their party, as this cannot be seen as anything but sheer craven cowardice.
To simplify this, here is the "short list" to begin with. These are Republican Senators whose seats are up for election in 2022:
Senators in bold have made statements about their intention to seek re-election or filed statements of candidacy with the FEC. Those with strikethrough have announced their intention to retire from the Senate. Given that these twenty Senators are the ones most in danger of primary challenges it will be interesting to see if the four who have already announced their retirement behave any differently than the seven who know they'll be facing the voters again in two years.
My fear is that it won't have that effect even though it ought to. The lesson of the last four years seems be that no matter how low the GOP sinks there is a rock solid core of tens of millions who will still support them. I hope this might jolt more of them to their senses but I don't expect it to.
Unfortunately he's been invited to attend but declined. Shame!
This is impressive. And the initial video documentation was even more shocking in its brutality than first time round, and they added some previously unseen material.
And the defence is a mixture of waffle, half truths and outright lies with little internal consistency.
AFZ
Oh, undoubtedly. But winning a trial isn't difficult when half the jurors were nobbled in advance...
For those of you who were watching the defenses, presentation, note Mr Schoan is an Orthodox Jew which means whenever he takes a drink of water, he has to cover his head.
Watch that guy. His headgear might be lined with tin foil, and he might intend to interfere with witnesses using his space laser. Oh no, hang on a minute...
(How is this going down with the faithful, who stormed the Capitol in response to a propaganda film insinuating a coming world government controlled by 'rootless intellectuals' who run Hollywood yadah yadah?).
Apparently Trump was also appalled, not least presumably because they contradicted the assertion that he didn't lose the election. But he still got 44 votes. Which made those GOP Senators' votes appalling too.
No argument with ol' Hils here. She nailed it in one.
(Enquiry: If a Senate vote (not the 'conviction' which needs 2/3) is split 50/50 does the VP get a casting vote? I'm thinking of procedural and similar votes.)
Quite right. I realised I'd been got it wrong and corrected it, making the question a bit pointless.