And having looked up IRIS—which in my experience isn’t known by that name here, and which is used for “Angels We Have Heard on High”—I see the refrain differs between the two versions.
It was a service introducing our theme for the year "Building What Will Last Forever"
Meekness and Majesty (Kendrick)
All Creatures of our God and King (Lasst Er Freuen)
Lord, for the Years (Lord of the Years)
God is working His Purpose Out (Benson)
We went this evening to a Welsh "plygain" carol service, Although I don't know the words, several of the carols sung are now quite familiar to me. I did my best to join in the congregational hymns (in Welsh): "O come all yet faithful" was just about do-able but "Hark the herald" was not!
I was picking yesterday so we had a somewhat eclectic selection:
Come down, O love divine (DOWN AMPNEY)
I cannot tell (LONDONDERRY AIR)
Psalm 72 - His large and great dominion shall (MARTYRDOM)
What child is this? (GREENSLEEVES)
Your hand, O God, has guided (THORNBURY)
A tune best avoided for congregational use imho although I do love the words of "I cannot tell". I agree with @Baptist Trainfan on this one and remember with distaste a funeral when the female choir sounded like a row of Florence Foster Jenkins wannabees 🤣
I brought it down so the top note was a D. A bit grumbly-mumbly in places but singable.
What does that make the bottom note?!? I make it an F# which is well into my theoretically there but totally inaudible range! The Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Tenors and Sopranos will be after you! But at least you'll fox the "two octaves lower than written" crowd.
I brought it down so the top note was a D. A bit grumbly-mumbly in places but singable.
What does that make the bottom note?!? I make it an F# which is well into my theoretically there but totally inaudible range! The Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Tenors and Sopranos will be after you! But at least you'll fox the "two octaves lower than written" crowd.
I'm a bass. But yeah it's a F# or a G, I think. The main point is that grumble-mumble is better than strangled-screech, which is what you get at anything above D.
I brought it down so the top note was a D. A bit grumbly-mumbly in places but singable.
What does that make the bottom note?!? I make it an F# which is well into my theoretically there but totally inaudible range! The Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Tenors and Sopranos will be after you! But at least you'll fox the "two octaves lower than written" crowd.
I'm a bass. But yeah it's a F# or a G, I think. The main point is that grumble-mumble is better than strangled-screech, which is what you get at anything above D.
Plane is another one that stretches most congregations especially as the fastest notes are at the highest point. I suppose both tunes could be mangled like that marvellous Holst tune that I Vow to Thee my Country is sung to.
Plane is another one that stretches most congregations especially as the fastest notes are at the highest point. I suppose both tunes could be mangled like that marvellous Holst tune that I Vow to Thee my Country is sung to.
Plane is another one that stretches most congregations especially as the fastest notes are at the highest point. I suppose both tunes could be mangled like that marvellous Holst tune that I Vow to Thee my Country is sung to.
Do you mean the ever versatile Slane ?
I did - that was typed on a phone whose "keyboard" was designed to be used by a malnourished Korean 4 year old.
Funeral today, the ubiquitous C&A (Crimond and Abide with me) that rural antiquities usually want. But ... would you believe it ... today a third hymn "I cannot tell" 😮 but the tune set in the book they used was in C which made it slightly more bearable. Interested to read the assorted comments here of which @Bishops Finger is closest to my general thought. Even in that lower key you still get bestial howling 😩
Funeral today, the ubiquitous C&A (Crimond and Abide with me) that rural antiquities usually want. But ... would you believe it ... today a third hymn "I cannot tell" 😮 but the tune set in the book they used was in C which made it slightly more bearable. Interested to read the assorted comments here of which @Bishops Finger is closest to my general thought. Even in that lower key you still get bestial howling 😩
Maybe I cannot tell was one of the Dear Departed's favourite hymns?
Perhaps they themselves could actually sing it, but forgot about the rest of the family/friends/village etc. when drawing up their funeral instructions...
Funeral today, the ubiquitous C&A (Crimond and Abide with me) that rural antiquities usually want. But ... would you believe it ... today a third hymn "I cannot tell" 😮 but the tune set in the book they used was in C which made it slightly more bearable. Interested to read the assorted comments here of which @Bishops Finger is closest to my general thought. Even in that lower key you still get bestial howling 😩
Maybe I cannot tell was one of the Dear Departed's favourite hymns?
Perhaps they themselves could actually sing it, but forgot about the rest of the family/friends/village etc. when drawing up their funeral instructions...
I'm sure that there are some decedents who pick at least one of their funeral hymns with an eye to bowling a googly at those attending. I suspect an elderly member of our congregation of that in picking the completely unfamiliar https://hymnary.org/text/when_this_passing_world_is_done .
Morning has broken (Bunessan) Songs of thankfulness and praise (St Edmund) Our Father (traditional Caribbean melody ) Thou, whose almighty word (Moscow) Lord, for the years (Lord of the years)
Baptism of the Lord.
Someone has had the idea of inviting back all who have had people baptised in 2024. I think the current cold snap will discourage them.
Hymns are
All are welcome (Groan)
Take our bread
Come to the water.
Sing it in the valleys (Unspeakable dross.)
@Bishops Finger yes, apparently she loved it, but as you suggest did not consider those who had to try to sing it. @Arethosemyfeet I think you are absolutely right as have come across a few requests in my time that were totally unsuitable in both content and music. The most wildly unsuitable was at a 'joyful requiem' which began with "Hail thee festival day" (I wish I was joking 😮) the favourite of the deceased. To say nothing of comments about the impression given that everyone was delighted to be present virtually nobody knew it (fancy!) and the verses were an organ solo of a very unattractive type ... 😡
Baptism of the Lord.
Someone has had the idea of inviting back all who have had people baptised in 2024. I think the current cold snap will discourage them.
Hymns are
All are welcome (Groan) . . . .
Perhaps it’s my imagination, but it seems that you list the hymn pretty frequently. And I’m confident you’re not the one who keeps picking it.
Is there a reason it’s sung so often? Is it the priest’s favorite? One of the only hymns the congregation knows?
I’m sure I’ve shared before that for a year while in college, I sang in the choir of a church whose minister insisted on choosing all the hymns without input from the music director/organist. I’m not exaggerating when I say that the entrance hymn almost every other week was “Holy, Holy, Holy.” I still groan inwardly when I hear it.
@Bishops Finger yes, apparently she loved it, but as you suggest did not consider those who had to try to sing it. @Arethosemyfeet I think you are absolutely right as have come across a few requests in my time that were totally unsuitable in both content and music. The most wildly unsuitable was at a 'joyful requiem' which began with "Hail thee festival day" (I wish I was joking 😮) the favourite of the deceased. To say nothing of comments about the impression given that everyone was delighted to be present virtually nobody knew it (fancy!) and the verses were an organ solo of a very unattractive type ... 😡
Nobody knew "Hail thee festival day"? The Vaughn Williams tune, I assume. If you don't know it, it can be a little tricky to follow along.
I'm all for funeral services being explicitly paschal, but I think that's taking things a little far.
Usual hymn blindness means I’ve totally forgotten 3/4 of the hymns we sang less than an hour ago, but we did have God Is Working His Purpose Out for the recessional, which is always glorious.*
*though I remember once in a naval chapel hearing the chap in the pew behind me saying (not-especially-sotto in his voce) at the end of the first line ‘well he wants to get his ruddy finger out then after this long’
Our offerings for the Baptism of the Lord*, and for once we had some very decent hymns and no dross:
Crown him with many crowns - Diademata Breathe on me breath of God - Carlisle Eternal ruler of the ceaseless round - Song 1 Be thou my vision - Slane Praise my soul, the King of heaven - Praise, My Soul
* I take it you've probably seen the meme that's been going round showing Jesus being baptised by John, with the caption:
JC: Are you trying to drown me? Couldn't you just pour some water over my head?
JtB: I'm John the Baptist - you want John the Episcopalian ...
At our early morning communion service:
Hail to the Lord's Anointed / ST THEODULPH?
When I Survey the Wondrous Cross / ROCKINGHAM
Immortal, Invisible, God Only Wise / ST. DENIO
Immortal, Invisible, God Only Wise St. Denio
Crown him with many crowns Diademata
All Hail the Power of Jesus' Name Coronation
Name of All Majesty Majestas
Jesus is Lord ("the cry that echoes through creation...") Build your house on the rock ("on this land you won't be knocked" - with actions) Come, let us worship Jesus (Jesus, King of the nations) There's nothing worth more that will ever come close Be still and know that I am God Everything I have comes from you
“God is our strength and refuge” - Dambusters' March.
“Jesus entered Egypt” - Wye Valley (no refrain).
“Unto us a boy is born” - Puer Nobis Nascitur.
“Christmas News” - Personet Hodie.
“Through the night of doubt and sorrow” - Marching.
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And having looked up IRIS—which in my experience isn’t known by that name here, and which is used for “Angels We Have Heard on High”—I see the refrain differs between the two versions.
ETA: @Nenya beat me to it.
Meekness and Majesty (Kendrick)
All Creatures of our God and King (Lasst Er Freuen)
Lord, for the Years (Lord of the Years)
God is working His Purpose Out (Benson)
A very excellent choice, if I may say so.
I guessed the same.
I forgot about the different refrain, so thanks to all who enlightened me.
What he said ^^^
Come down, O love divine (DOWN AMPNEY)
I cannot tell (LONDONDERRY AIR)
Psalm 72 - His large and great dominion shall (MARTYRDOM)
What child is this? (GREENSLEEVES)
Your hand, O God, has guided (THORNBURY)
Just so...
Yes, that would work. Well done!
I'll get my cap as well as my coat ...
What does that make the bottom note?!? I make it an F# which is well into my theoretically there but totally inaudible range! The Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Tenors and Sopranos will be after you! But at least you'll fox the "two octaves lower than written" crowd.
It occurs to me to wonder what numpty first thought that London Derriere was a suitable tune for a congregational hymn...
I'm a bass.
D is near the middle of my comfortable range.
Do you mean the ever versatile Slane ?
I did - that was typed on a phone whose "keyboard" was designed to be used by a malnourished Korean 4 year old.
Maybe I cannot tell was one of the Dear Departed's favourite hymns?
Perhaps they themselves could actually sing it, but forgot about the rest of the family/friends/village etc. when drawing up their funeral instructions...
I'm sure that there are some decedents who pick at least one of their funeral hymns with an eye to bowling a googly at those attending. I suspect an elderly member of our congregation of that in picking the completely unfamiliar https://hymnary.org/text/when_this_passing_world_is_done .
We had it to WELLS, which is very similar to ST PETERSBURG in CH4. Much work on mine and the organist's part.
Morning has broken (Bunessan)
Songs of thankfulness and praise (St Edmund)
Our Father (traditional Caribbean melody
Thou, whose almighty word (Moscow)
Lord, for the years (Lord of the years)
Someone has had the idea of inviting back all who have had people baptised in 2024. I think the current cold snap will discourage them.
Hymns are
All are welcome (Groan)
Take our bread
Come to the water.
Sing it in the valleys (Unspeakable dross.)
Is there a reason it’s sung so often? Is it the priest’s favorite? One of the only hymns the congregation knows?
I’m sure I’ve shared before that for a year while in college, I sang in the choir of a church whose minister insisted on choosing all the hymns without input from the music director/organist. I’m not exaggerating when I say that the entrance hymn almost every other week was “Holy, Holy, Holy.” I still groan inwardly when I hear it.
Nobody knew "Hail thee festival day"? The Vaughn Williams tune, I assume. If you don't know it, it can be a little tricky to follow along.
I'm all for funeral services being explicitly paschal, but I think that's taking things a little far.
*though I remember once in a naval chapel hearing the chap in the pew behind me saying (not-especially-sotto in his voce) at the end of the first line ‘well he wants to get his ruddy finger out then after this long’
Crown him with many crowns - Diademata
Breathe on me breath of God - Carlisle
Eternal ruler of the ceaseless round - Song 1
Be thou my vision - Slane
Praise my soul, the King of heaven - Praise, My Soul
* I take it you've probably seen the meme that's been going round showing Jesus being baptised by John, with the caption:
JC: Are you trying to drown me? Couldn't you just pour some water over my head?
JtB: I'm John the Baptist - you want John the Episcopalian ...
Hail to the Lord's Anointed / ST THEODULPH?
When I Survey the Wondrous Cross / ROCKINGHAM
Immortal, Invisible, God Only Wise / ST. DENIO
All creatures of our God and king
Immortal, invisible
O Lord, my God
Do not be afraid
Just as I am
Crown him with many crowns Diademata
All Hail the Power of Jesus' Name Coronation
Name of All Majesty Majestas
Build your house on the rock ("on this land you won't be knocked" - with actions)
Come, let us worship Jesus (Jesus, King of the nations)
There's nothing worth more that will ever come close
Be still and know that I am God
Everything I have comes from you
“God is our strength and refuge” - Dambusters' March.
“Jesus entered Egypt” - Wye Valley (no refrain).
“Unto us a boy is born” - Puer Nobis Nascitur.
“Christmas News” - Personet Hodie.
“Through the night of doubt and sorrow” - Marching.
Down To The River To Pray
Wade in the Water
Songs of Thankfulness and Praise (SALZBURG)
Gloria was the Old Scottish Chant, and Sanctus and Agnus Dei were Schubert