You Are Everywhere (Action song without the actions on this occasion.)
Open the Eyes of My Heart, Lord (I want to see you)
Sovereign Over Us (There is strength within the sorrow)
When I Survey The Wondrous Cross (to the tune of 'O Waly Waly' which never seems right to me as my Dear Old Mum used to sing the "The water is wide, I cannot get o'er" lyrics to it).
The Feast of the Dormition Assumption of the BVM was kept at Our Place:
Sing we of the blessed Mother (Abbot's Leigh) Ye who own the faith of Jesus (Daily, daily)
Our Father (Caribbean) Virgin-born, we bow before thee (Quem Pastores) To God be the glory (the usual tune, by W H Doane, but not the words by Fanny Crosby - apart from the first line!)
My Spy tells me that the tune of the final hymn was obviously well-known to the six Indian students in church this morning...
BTW, the Old-Catholic Cathedral in Utrecht also observed the Dormition (Ontslapen) of Mary this morning. The Gospel was Luke's account of the Magnificat, which was sung responsorially by priest, cantors, and people. Never seen or heard this done anywhere else, but it worked. The priest also sported a lovely chasuble, with bands of dark blue, and various Marian motifs, such as fleur-de-lis and stars, in gold.
Dear Lord and Father of Mankind (Repton)
Speak O Lord as We Come to You (Getty/Townend)
Master Speak! Thy Servant Heareth (Magister)
Only sang the first and last verses of Master Speak! because the preacher overran. And as the early service we have to finish in time to allow the band to set up for the mid-morning service. We were ten minutes late finishing.
The Blessed Percy Dearmer, in The Parson's Handbook, recommends that a large Clock - within easy view of the pulpit - should be installed in every church, preachers for the reminding of...
We had:
Praise to the Lord, the Almighty
To our Lord, praise we sing
Put all your trust in God (to DIADEMATA, because that's the only DSM tune we know)
Holy Spirit, ever living
Look forward in faith
Our new minister's nomination was confirmed unanimously by both congregations so we shall see what the future holds.
Yes, I do appreciate that he will have to divide his time, but presumably that means you'll still need to be a *lead* (IYSWIM) in your own congregation?
The Blessed Percy Dearmer, in The Parson's Handbook, recommends that a large Clock - within easy view of the pulpit - should be installed in every church, preachers for the reminding of...
Universal in Nonconformist chapels. However I was once in a service where the clock stopped halfway through the sermon ...
The Blessed Percy Dearmer, in The Parson's Handbook, recommends that a large Clock - within easy view of the pulpit - should be installed in every church, preachers for the reminding of...
Universal in Nonconformist chapels. However I was once in a service where the clock stopped halfway through the sermon ...
Is the preacher still preaching, or has he been promoted to glory?
Last Sunday a combination of infirmity, awayness and school holidays reduced our attendance to just over 25 - the lowest of the year. Today we were more than double that!
I guess most churches have days like that - at Our Place we call them *Low Sundays* - but the presence of a number of students* this August has kept the numbers to about normal.
*A cohort of South Asians, mostly studying pharmacy-related subjects, who stay on during the summer, with various assignments to do. They don't all come every week, but they are all pretty faithful in attendance, and most assiduous in lighting votive candles.
I don't know which church(es) they come from, but no doubt some are Roman Catholic, others are perhaps Mar Thoma, or Church of South India.
I suspect the hymn To God Be The Glory, and its tune, might well be known to the fairly evangelical Mar Thoma Church!
"Christ for the world we sing" / MOSCOW
Psalm 133, recited.
"O Spirit of the living God" / MELCOMBE
"Christ is the world's true light" / ST. JOAN
"My God, thy table now is spread" / ROCKINGHAM
"In your mercy, Lord, you called me" / HALTON HOLGATE
"There's a wideness in God's mercy" / BEECHER
“Come All You People” (Uyai Mose)/UYAI MOSE
“God Welcomes All”/THEMBA AMEN
“O Look and Wonder” (¡Miren qué bueno!)(Ps. 133)/MIREN QUÉ BUENO
“Will You Let Me Be Your Servant/THE SERVANT SONG
“Where Charity and Love Prevail”/TWENTY-FOURTH
I have no idea what was sung at my church. I am the organist and am o/seas until 28th taking a much needed break. I was unable to find a sub so they were using DVD'S. Not sure about next Sunday.
9.15am Sung Communion
Mass of St Thomas
All hail the power of Jesus ‘ name - Evelyns
In Christ there is no east or west- Kilmarnock
Beauty for Brokenness ( some confusion as to when the refrain was to be sung)
Faithful shepherd feed me - Pastor pastorem
Praise the Lord ye heavens adore him- Austria
Nearly 40 attended including those in the chancel.
6 pm Evensong
Lord enthroned in heavenly splendour - St Helen
Be thou my vision- Slane
Be still my soul- Finlandia
O the love of my Lord is the essence.
Confusion as the organist had not noticed this change to his suggestions, did not know it, nor did the choir, but being good sight readers, it was fine!
Anthem The Clare Benediction- Rutter
Quite a mish mash.
Only four in the evening congregation, eight in the choir. We get the same sermon as the morning! I know our priest is overworked, but……
Hmm. 12 at Evensong (plus the priest, presumably) is not too bad these days - but I would be tempted to leave out the sermon, even if it was the same one as that praught at the morning service...
40 at a Communion service at the daybreak hour of 915am is not too bad, either! If Our Place saw 40 on a Sunday morning at 1030am, we'd hang out flags, and blow trumpets...
We have some Bunting, which was intended for the Coronation of HM King Edward VIII...at least, we did, but I think the Mice in the boiler room may have devoured it by now.
I suggested that it be put out for the Coronation of Charles III, but (so they said) it was nowhere to be found.
There's a Trumpet stop on the organ, so that could be pulled out...
I love thy kingdom, Lord (St. Thomas [Williams])
God is Love, let heaven adore him (Abbot's Leigh)
How wondrous and great thy works, God of praise! (Old 104th)
Joyful, joyful, we adore thee (Hymn to Joy)
Choral:
Tye: O God be merciful
Gounod: O salutaris hostia
(Actually a solo so probably will be disqualified in this discussion, apologies) at a well loved member of the congregation's funeral, out music director sang an unaccompanied gregorian chant version of the nunc dimittis. Spell binding.
How great Thou art
The Lord's my Shepherd
Abide with me
The Old Rugged Cross
All sung to the *usual* tunes, though not many people (except the Sisters) seemed to know the last one...
Chapel was pretty well full of Family, residents of the Home, the Sisters, and the care staff (it's a residential home for the elderly, and a convent at the same time IYSWIM).
Cracking homily from the local parish priest, who visits frequently, and knew Auntie S quite well. By coincidence, he's from Kerala, where Auntie was born.
It was. The priest was obviously much taken with Auntie (quite apart from their shared origins!), so his homily was a very personal one IYSWIM, and clearly struck chords with various members of the Clan.
BTW, the Old-Catholic Cathedral in Utrecht also observed the Dormition (Ontslapen) of Mary this morning. The Gospel was Luke's account of the Magnificat, which was sung responsorially by priest, cantors, and people. Never seen or heard this done anywhere else, but it worked. The priest also sported a lovely chasuble, with bands of dark blue, and various Marian motifs, such as fleur-de-lis and stars, in gold.
Yes, it's a bit like a quite large *High Church* in England, without Victorian choir stalls...their ritual is fairly minimalist, though sometimes they have two torchbearers in addition to crucifer and thurifer. If a priest other than the celebrant is preaching, s/he wears a cope which matches the chasuble.
That particular priest praught a good sermon on Ascension Day, too. He speaks a little more clearly than the other regular chap, which does make indeed make for better understanding of the sermon.
What I found interesting was the houseling cloth which was draped over the Communion rail. I haven't seen these since Vatican 2.
(RC name for the Feast day would be Onze lieve Vrouw Hemelvaart - much like German.)
That was my memory of my first and only visit to an Old Catholic Church many years ago. That and the priest's immaculately pleated alb. From that I imagined the OCC to be liturgically highly conservative, so I was delighted to see this relaxed but reverent liturgy that Bishop's Finger pointed us to.
They have a somewhat more elaborate ritual if the Bishop celebrates, when they break out the humeral veils and white gloves - as at Midnight Mass last year, and on Easter Day this year. On both occasions, the Bishop was attended by two chaplains, both sporting veils and gloves.
As this thread is really about singing, I might add that I often don't recognise many of the hymns (or tunes) used at Utrecht OCC. However, at Midnight Mass last year they had Hark the herald angels sing and Angels from the realms of glory (in Dutch, but with the tunes we associate with those hymns), and at Easter they finished up with Thine be the glory, again in Dutch, but, naturally, to Maccabaeus...to sing it to another tune would truly Be Outrage.
To get back on topic, tomorrow's hymns at Our Place should be:
Jesus is Lord! Creation's voice proclaims it (Jesus is Lord) Brother, Sister, let me serve you (words and music by Richard Gillard) Rock of Ages (could be Petra or Toplady - we know both) O Lord all the world belongs to you (words and music by Patrick Appleford)
I'm guessing that (possibly) the second hymn, and (certainly) the final hymn will be accompanied on the piano.
FatherInCharge is not expecting a huge turnout - Bank Holiday weekend, and the last weekend of the school *summer* break!
I am away tomorrow on grandparent duty, so the pp will be picking and the singing will be a capella.
My next appearing will be at a mass to celebrate the 70th anniversary of the dedication of our building. It will be followed by a BBQ and jollities which, being a curmudgeonly old bastard, I will swerve.
As I was serving this morning, I wasn't as musically involved as usual. Although we had the Organist Who Knows What He's Doing, he seemed a wee bit off today, and the singing was a bit ... fractured. Goodly size of a congregation though - over 30.
All for Jesus - All For Jesus Jesu, grant me this I pray - Song 13 Firmly I believe and truly - Gott Will's Machen Be still, my soul - Finlandia* Praise to the Holiest in the height - Richmond
* I was quite glad to be otherwise occupied for that one - although it's a good tune, it always gives me a lump in the throat, which is not conducive to good or enjoyable singing.
What is it about some tunes that seems to bring on spontaneous eye leakage?
Maybe it's the tune, and/or the words, and/or whatever we associate with the hymn or song. I tear up at The day thou gavest Lord is ended simply because it was My Old Mum's favourite, and reminds me vividly of her.
For complex pastoral reasons I had no clue about until this morning, (having had a few Sundays off) I'm so glad I did not have Be still, my soul or indeed any hymn to Finlandia on the list for today. I know it can set off half our congregation the couple of times a year we do have it!
Yes! Any hymn to Finlandia gives a lump in the throat and a tear in the eye.
Nothing that good at our early service this morning, but all solid choices.
To God Be The Glory! (Doane)
All Creatures Of Our God And King (Lasst Uns Erfruen)
Hail to the Lord's Anointed (Crueger)
O Worship The King (Lyons)
What is it about some tunes that seems to bring on spontaneous eye leakage?
For me, it's memories of singing Finlandia in St Magnus on the last day of a holiday before returning to Northern Ireland. I was leaving Orkney, which is never easy, and going back to work at a job I wasn't enjoying much at the time, and I had great difficulty in stemming the eye leakage.
Put forth, O God, thy Spirit's might (Chelsea Square)
King of glory, King of peace (General Seminary)
I come with joy to meet my Lord (Land of Rest)
I want to walk as a child of the light (Houston)
Choral:
Palestrina: Confitemini Domino
Vincenzo Ruffo: Adoramus te Christe
For me, it's memories of singing Finlandia in St Magnus on the last day of a holiday before returning to Northern Ireland. I was leaving Orkney, which is never easy, and going back to work at a job I wasn't enjoying much at the time, and I had great difficulty in stemming the eye leakage.
Your story reminds me of Leaving The Island by Three Peace Sweet
There is a haunting quality about Finlandia - it's described in the Wiki article as *serene and melodic*, which it is, but somehow it's more than that, and I think we all find it hard to explain how...
It's not an old Nordic folk tune, but was written by Sibelius specifically for his Finlandia suite. Maybe it encapsulates the bitter-sweet and often turbulent history of that beautiful country, now said to be the happiest in Europe.
"Glorious things of thee are spoken" / AUSTRIA
Psalm 124, recited.
"From God Christ's deity came forth" / Tune by our organist
"My hope is built on nothing less" (LEVAS 99)
"Where charity and love prevail" / VENI REDEMPTOR GENTIUM, adapted
"I come with joy to meet my Lord" / LAND OF REST
"God is Love, let heaven adore him" / ABBOT'S LEIGH
Discovered Three Peace Sweet when we spent our "100th birthday" (the year we both turned 50) on Orkney. Really enjoyed our holiday there, apart from the credit card bill resulting from Mrs Darda's liking for Sheila Fleet jewellery!
That would frighten the credit card a bit, right enough. It's lovely stuff, but I'm an Ortak girl; the founder's daughter was also in my class at school*, and whenever she was invited to one's birthday party, she would arrive with a little piece of jewellery, so I've been collecting it since I was about six years old!
When David was alive, at birthdays and anniversaries he would say, "go on to the Ortak website and see what you fancy". Luckily I prefer silver to gold.
* I know this rather perpetrates the myth that there are only about 10 people in Orkney ...
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Soul of my Saviour.
Guide me O thou great Redeemer.
Open the Eyes of My Heart, Lord (I want to see you)
Sovereign Over Us (There is strength within the sorrow)
When I Survey The Wondrous Cross (to the tune of 'O Waly Waly' which never seems right to me as my Dear Old Mum used to sing the "The water is wide, I cannot get o'er" lyrics to it).
Who Am I That The Highest King Would Welcome Me
Sing we of the blessed Mother (Abbot's Leigh)
Ye who own the faith of Jesus (Daily, daily)
Our Father (Caribbean)
Virgin-born, we bow before thee (Quem Pastores)
To God be the glory (the usual tune, by W H Doane, but not the words by Fanny Crosby - apart from the first line!)
My Spy tells me that the tune of the final hymn was obviously well-known to the six Indian students in church this morning...
BTW, the Old-Catholic Cathedral in Utrecht also observed the Dormition (Ontslapen) of Mary this morning. The Gospel was Luke's account of the Magnificat, which was sung responsorially by priest, cantors, and people. Never seen or heard this done anywhere else, but it worked. The priest also sported a lovely chasuble, with bands of dark blue, and various Marian motifs, such as fleur-de-lis and stars, in gold.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOahUzicJzI&t=2456s
You get a good view of the chasuble at about 38 minutes in.
Speak O Lord as We Come to You (Getty/Townend)
Master Speak! Thy Servant Heareth (Magister)
Only sang the first and last verses of Master Speak! because the preacher overran. And as the early service we have to finish in time to allow the band to set up for the mid-morning service. We were ten minutes late finishing.
The Blessed Percy Dearmer, in The Parson's Handbook, recommends that a large Clock - within easy view of the pulpit - should be installed in every church, preachers for the reminding of...
Praise to the Lord, the Almighty
To our Lord, praise we sing
Put all your trust in God (to DIADEMATA, because that's the only DSM tune we know)
Holy Spirit, ever living
Look forward in faith
Our new minister's nomination was confirmed unanimously by both congregations so we shall see what the future holds.
Probably October. Remains to be seen how often he'll be able to be here.
Is the preacher still preaching, or has he been promoted to glory?
*A cohort of South Asians, mostly studying pharmacy-related subjects, who stay on during the summer, with various assignments to do. They don't all come every week, but they are all pretty faithful in attendance, and most assiduous in lighting votive candles.
I don't know which church(es) they come from, but no doubt some are Roman Catholic, others are perhaps Mar Thoma, or Church of South India.
I suspect the hymn To God Be The Glory, and its tune, might well be known to the fairly evangelical Mar Thoma Church!
"Christ for the world we sing" / MOSCOW
Psalm 133, recited.
"O Spirit of the living God" / MELCOMBE
"Christ is the world's true light" / ST. JOAN
"My God, thy table now is spread" / ROCKINGHAM
"In your mercy, Lord, you called me" / HALTON HOLGATE
"There's a wideness in God's mercy" / BEECHER
“Come All You People” (Uyai Mose)/UYAI MOSE
“God Welcomes All”/THEMBA AMEN
“O Look and Wonder” (¡Miren qué bueno!)(Ps. 133)/MIREN QUÉ BUENO
“Will You Let Me Be Your Servant/THE SERVANT SONG
“Where Charity and Love Prevail”/TWENTY-FOURTH
Hymns
All hail the power of Jesus’ name, / Diadem
Woman in the night, / New disciples
When human voices cannot sing, / St Columba
Choir
Thee we adore, O hidden Saviour, / plainchant
Faith, hope and love, / Pachelbel arranged by David Ogden
Mass of St Thomas
All hail the power of Jesus ‘ name - Evelyns
In Christ there is no east or west- Kilmarnock
Beauty for Brokenness ( some confusion as to when the refrain was to be sung)
Faithful shepherd feed me - Pastor pastorem
Praise the Lord ye heavens adore him- Austria
Nearly 40 attended including those in the chancel.
6 pm Evensong
Lord enthroned in heavenly splendour - St Helen
Be thou my vision- Slane
Be still my soul- Finlandia
O the love of my Lord is the essence.
Confusion as the organist had not noticed this change to his suggestions, did not know it, nor did the choir, but being good sight readers, it was fine!
Anthem The Clare Benediction- Rutter
Quite a mish mash.
Only four in the evening congregation, eight in the choir. We get the same sermon as the morning! I know our priest is overworked, but……
40 at a Communion service at the daybreak hour of 915am is not too bad, either! If Our Place saw 40 on a Sunday morning at 1030am, we'd hang out flags, and blow trumpets...
(Old tatty regimental flags Do Not Count).
I suggested that it be put out for the Coronation of Charles III, but (so they said) it was nowhere to be found.
There's a Trumpet stop on the organ, so that could be pulled out...
I love thy kingdom, Lord (St. Thomas [Williams])
God is Love, let heaven adore him (Abbot's Leigh)
How wondrous and great thy works, God of praise! (Old 104th)
Joyful, joyful, we adore thee (Hymn to Joy)
Choral:
Tye: O God be merciful
Gounod: O salutaris hostia
How great Thou art
The Lord's my Shepherd
Abide with me
The Old Rugged Cross
All sung to the *usual* tunes, though not many people (except the Sisters) seemed to know the last one...
Chapel was pretty well full of Family, residents of the Home, the Sisters, and the care staff (it's a residential home for the elderly, and a convent at the same time IYSWIM).
Cracking homily from the local parish priest, who visits frequently, and knew Auntie S quite well. By coincidence, he's from Kerala, where Auntie was born.
That was a very interesting mass. Reverent and unfussy. I could even understand bits of the sermon.
That particular priest praught a good sermon on Ascension Day, too. He speaks a little more clearly than the other regular chap, which does make indeed make for better understanding of the sermon.
(RC name for the Feast day would be Onze lieve Vrouw Hemelvaart - much like German.)
As this thread is really about singing, I might add that I often don't recognise many of the hymns (or tunes) used at Utrecht OCC. However, at Midnight Mass last year they had Hark the herald angels sing and Angels from the realms of glory (in Dutch, but with the tunes we associate with those hymns), and at Easter they finished up with Thine be the glory, again in Dutch, but, naturally, to Maccabaeus...to sing it to another tune would truly Be Outrage.
To get back on topic, tomorrow's hymns at Our Place should be:
Jesus is Lord! Creation's voice proclaims it (Jesus is Lord)
Brother, Sister, let me serve you (words and music by Richard Gillard)
Rock of Ages (could be Petra or Toplady - we know both)
O Lord all the world belongs to you (words and music by Patrick Appleford)
I'm guessing that (possibly) the second hymn, and (certainly) the final hymn will be accompanied on the piano.
FatherInCharge is not expecting a huge turnout - Bank Holiday weekend, and the last weekend of the school *summer* break!
My next appearing will be at a mass to celebrate the 70th anniversary of the dedication of our building. It will be followed by a BBQ and jollities which, being a curmudgeonly old bastard, I will swerve.
Hymns
Rejoice the Lord is King, / Darwall
Community of Christ, / Leoni
Jesus the name high over all, / Lydia
Choir
In Christ there is no east or west, / trad. Arr. Barnard
Christ is our cornerstone, / D. Thorne
Holy, Holy, Holy! Lord God Almighty! - NICAEA
Refiner's Fire (Purify my heart) - Brian Doerksen
At the Name of Jesus - CAMBERWELL
All for Jesus - All For Jesus
Jesu, grant me this I pray - Song 13
Firmly I believe and truly - Gott Will's Machen
Be still, my soul - Finlandia*
Praise to the Holiest in the height - Richmond
* I was quite glad to be otherwise occupied for that one - although it's a good tune, it always gives me a lump in the throat, which is not conducive to good or enjoyable singing.
Maybe it's the tune, and/or the words, and/or whatever we associate with the hymn or song. I tear up at The day thou gavest Lord is ended simply because it was My Old Mum's favourite, and reminds me vividly of her.
Nothing that good at our early service this morning, but all solid choices.
To God Be The Glory! (Doane)
All Creatures Of Our God And King (Lasst Uns Erfruen)
Hail to the Lord's Anointed (Crueger)
O Worship The King (Lyons)
To Our God (Up from the ashes) A new one on me.
King of Kings, Majesty
Good, good Father (It's who you are)
For me, it's memories of singing Finlandia in St Magnus on the last day of a holiday before returning to Northern Ireland. I was leaving Orkney, which is never easy, and going back to work at a job I wasn't enjoying much at the time, and I had great difficulty in stemming the eye leakage.
Put forth, O God, thy Spirit's might (Chelsea Square)
King of glory, King of peace (General Seminary)
I come with joy to meet my Lord (Land of Rest)
I want to walk as a child of the light (Houston)
Choral:
Palestrina: Confitemini Domino
Vincenzo Ruffo: Adoramus te Christe
It's not an old Nordic folk tune, but was written by Sibelius specifically for his Finlandia suite. Maybe it encapsulates the bitter-sweet and often turbulent history of that beautiful country, now said to be the happiest in Europe.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finlandia
"Glorious things of thee are spoken" / AUSTRIA
Psalm 124, recited.
"From God Christ's deity came forth" / Tune by our organist
"My hope is built on nothing less" (LEVAS 99)
"Where charity and love prevail" / VENI REDEMPTOR GENTIUM, adapted
"I come with joy to meet my Lord" / LAND OF REST
"God is Love, let heaven adore him" / ABBOT'S LEIGH
When David was alive, at birthdays and anniversaries he would say, "go on to the Ortak website and see what you fancy". Luckily I prefer silver to gold.
* I know this rather perpetrates the myth that there are only about 10 people in Orkney ...
Sorry, Eccles hosts - I'll stop tangenting now!
But when they sing hymns, they make a mighty sound. (I trust that brings the thread back on course.)