General Good-byes And RIPs

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  • jedijudyjedijudy Heaven Host
    Jimmy Carter was a great role model for us. He was a good and faithful man.
  • Well said @jedijudy. I was in primary school during his Presidency, and not really across current affairs, but I thought he took very seriously the concept of being a reconciler rather than an antagonist and admired him very much.
  • stetson wrote: »
    And, just to be clear, you won't be seeing any UFOs up here.

    Well, they'd be identified, surely, so whether human or alien souls, or angels, or other things we have no notion of, they'd be Identified Flying Objects.
  • Enoch wrote: »
    That is genuinely sad, though at 100, not very surprising. Not my country and my opinion is of little, if any, value but I've long felt he was a much better president and a much better human being than he has been given credit for.

    For those who are interested here is a lengthy summation of Carter's political life. I agree with Loomis' assessment that Carter was a pretty bad president by the standards we usually use to judge such things, but he was a good man and, along with John Quincy Adams, had one of the best post-presidencies in American history.
  • I had the pleasure of working with Scott when I was chairing the Lorne Middle School Parent School Support Committee. He was a mensch. RIP Scott
    https://memorials.chipmanfuneralhome.ca/scott-crawford/5529956/

    An incredibly loving obituary from his wife.
  • Just popped in to mention that Wayne Osmond has passed away. I think most of the fame of The Osmonds just predates my interest in music, but didn't want to leave this un-noted.

    I do remember Donny and Marie's Tv series and Jimmy's Long haired lover from Liverpool, though.
  • SojournerSojourner Shipmate
    Yes I recall Alan, Merrill, Wayne & Jay as the singing Kissel brothers in the TV serial” The Travels of Jaimie McPheeters” broadcast in Oz during 1963…they would have been teeanaged then
  • EigonEigon Shipmate
    A friend of mine actually went on an Osmonds holiday, though I think the coach tour she was with was hosted by Jay Osmond.
  • HuiaHuia Shipmate
    OK, @Stetson and @Lamb Chopped, I don't have a clue what you are referring to. I have probably missed a bit of news - please can you explain.
  • Look at Wikipedia, “Carter rabbit incident” (I’m on my phone and can’t do links.)

    Blessed is the country where news is so scarce they can blow something like this into a major news story.
  • The New York Times is reporting that Peter Yarrow of Peter, Paul and Mary has died at age 86.

    This is one that hurts.


  • NicoleMRNicoleMR Shipmate
    Oh no. Oh that hurts all right.
  • Linking to this seems appropriate:

    Peter, Paul and Mary, “Day Is Done.”


  • stetsonstetson Shipmate
    Huia wrote: »
    OK, @Stetson and @Lamb Chopped, I don't have a clue what you are referring to. I have probably missed a bit of news - please can you explain.

    I was refering to the Playboy interview he gave during the 1976 campaign, in which he confessed to looking at women with "lust in [his] heart".
  • stetsonstetson Shipmate
    edited January 7
    Nick Tamen wrote: »
    The New York Times is reporting that Peter Yarrow of Peter, Paul and Mary has died at age 86.

    This is one that hurts.

    Probably Jimmy Carter's most famous pardon, after the draft-dodgers.
  • stetsonstetson Shipmate
    edited January 10
    ChastMastr wrote: »

    She was...something.

    [media reference may be epiphanic]

    When I was about 11, the first time I ever cajoled my parents into letting me watch SNL, there was a skit that parodied Deliverance, about Anita Bryant sending a group of male investigators down the river to find a remote colony of men living there. You can guess the gist of the humour.

    I think I already knew who Anita Bryant was at that point, so understood the sexual angle of the skit, but at the time had no idea about the plot of the parodied movie. In retrospect, it was probably a rather clumsy endeavour of "exposing" the psychosexual themes that were much more skillfully and subtly examined in the original film.

    I later read her Playboy interview, in which she expressed what seemed to me like rather idiosyncratic, even by the standards of that particular lobby group, reasons for her opposition to certain sexualities. At least one of them seemed weirdly mystical-psychoanalytical, though to be charitable, it probably boiled down to aristotelianism.

    At this point, I can't even remember if she won or lost that famous referendum in Miami. I do remember the precise context of a joke about her on The Golden Girls circa 1989.

    Decades later, I frequented a restaurant in Korea that had an old LP of Bryant's on decorative display(along with dozens of others). Not sure if she ever got airplay in Korea, but I'm guessing not.

    YouTube has the footage of her getting pied in the face in Florida. She does use a slur word in return, but I doubt that will be a deal-breaker for anyone willing to watch it in the first place.
  • stetsonstetson Shipmate
    The YouTube videos...

    Raw footage:
    Anita Bryant's pie to the face

    Local news report:
    Anita Bryant's pie in the face news report

    I recommend both. The footage shows more of the event itself, but the news report has a bit on the aftermath.
  • CrœsosCrœsos Shipmate
    I have to admit that notorious hatemonger Anita Bryant was on my mental "isn't she already dead?" list. In a certain way she was, having died on December 16 and the public announcement only being made now.
  • CrœsosCrœsos Shipmate
    Speaking of hateful figures, it hasn't been mentioned that Jean-Marie Le Pen has died. While I'll admit "don't live your life so that thousands will gather to celebrate your death with an impromptu fireworks display" is an easy bar for most people to clear, it's by no means an automatic assumption.
  • stetson wrote: »
    The YouTube videos...

    Raw footage:
    Anita Bryant's pie to the face

    Local news report:
    Anita Bryant's pie in the face news report

    I recommend both. The footage shows more of the event itself, but the news report has a bit on the aftermath.

    Links are absent?
  • stetsonstetson Shipmate
    ChastMastr wrote: »
    stetson wrote: »
    The YouTube videos...

    Raw footage:
    Anita Bryant's pie to the face

    Local news report:
    Anita Bryant's pie in the face news report

    I recommend both. The footage shows more of the event itself, but the news report has a bit on the aftermath.

    Links are absent?

    Sorry. I don't know how to do links on this phone. Those are the verbatim titles of the videos, so easy to find.
  • stetsonstetson Shipmate
    In the above post, "so easy to find", means "therefore easy to find", not "very easy to find". (The latter interpretation could sound a little jerkish, so thought I'd clarify.)
  • No worries. I’ve seen them myself, personally.
  • stetson wrote: »
    ChastMastr wrote: »
    stetson wrote: »
    The YouTube videos...

    Raw footage:
    Anita Bryant's pie to the face

    Local news report:
    Anita Bryant's pie in the face news report

    I recommend both. The footage shows more of the event itself, but the news report has a bit on the aftermath.

    Links are absent?

    Sorry. I don't know how to do links on this phone.
    Just copying and pasting the url will work. If you want to get fancy, preface the link with:
    [url=
    
    Paste the url and follow it with “]” (with no spaces), put in text for the hyperlink, then close it with
    [/url]
    


  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    The trouble with Jean-Marie le Pen is that he had a daughter, who seems to be following in Daddy's footsteps ... :fearful:
  • la vie en rougela vie en rouge Purgatory Host, Circus Host
    TBH I don't think Marine is even the most dangerous member of that family. Marion Maréchal is the one who really wants to follow in the footsteps of Papy Facho (Grandad Fash).
  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    Ah - I bow to.your superior knowledge - I hadn't come across her.
  • CaissaCaissa Shipmate
    The Reverend Canon Wally Corey. I had the pleasure to work with him when he was interim priest in charge for a parish in which I was warden at the time.
    https://brenansfh.com/tribute/details/33203/The-Rev-d-Canon-Wally-Corey/obituary.html#tribute-start
  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    Comedian and actor Tony Slattery has died aged 65.

    He was particularly excellent on Whose Line is it Anyway?

    RIP.
  • A fellow manic depressive too. He was great in Whose Line.
  • He had a fabulous surreal imagination, it's sad that he felt troubled later on.
  • HuiaHuia Shipmate
    Sad to hear about Tony Slattery. I loved "Whose Line is it Anyway".
  • I'm very sad to report that I've just read Simon Townsend had died. I was just outside the age of his target audience, but have to confess that I loved his Wonder World program especially the use of young journalists presenting their various stories and of course Woodrow the bloodhound.

    It was only as an adult I learnt of his anti-Vietnam war stance and respected him for that.

    Vale
  • Indeed.
  • He had a fabulous surreal imagination, it's sad that he felt troubled later on.
    Around 50% of people with bipolar disorder become addicted to drugs and/or alcohol. We have an inclination towards addictions of various types. It is perhaps not surprising that this might be exacerbated by the lifestyle of being a comedian.

  • Gill HGill H Shipmate
    I am hoping BBC or Channel 4 might show the film Peter’s Friends as a tribute. Tony Slattery was very good in that.
  • I’ve just learned that the Rev. Ruth Duck—a minister in the United Church of Christ, longtime liturgical theologian and professor of worship at Garret-Evangelical Theological Seminary in Evanston, Illinois, hymnwriter, former president of the North American Academy of Liturgy and Fellow of the Hymn Society of the United States and Canada—died Dec. 26, 2024. She was 77.


  • I am sorry to read this @Nick Tamen.
  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    Singer Linda Nolan, of Nolan Sisters fame, has died aged 65.

  • MrsBeakyMrsBeaky Shipmate
    Piglet wrote: »
    Singer Linda Nolan, of Nolan Sisters fame, has died aged 65.

    I remember seeing her in Blood Brothers- she was excellent.
    She was also younger than me.....which is somewhat sobering!
  • stetsonstetson Shipmate
    edited January 16
    David Lynch

    (Epiphanic film scenes discussed)

    In my opinion, he was a far better surrealist than Luis Bunuel(the latter of whom really seemed to lose his touch after Dali's departure). However, while he was extremely skilled at creating a dream-like atmosphere, he had little talent for balancing it off with a narrative, and I have to agree with a friend of mine who wrote him off as a "one-trick pony".

    Admittedly, it was often a pretty good trick. One of the very few non-jump scare scenes in a horror flick that genuinely gave me the creeps was Bob crawling through the window of Laura's bedroom in the film version of Twin Peaks. Robert Blake's portrayal of the mysterious guest in Lost Highway was also really good, but again, kinda went nowhere plot-wise.

    Lynch was sometimes accused of a reactionary worldview, and I generally concur, my formulation being that his work was like if Norman Rockwell directed horror films. I'll also cite the rather subtle mystification of disability in The Elephant Man, where it is implied in the opening that the carnival barker's claim about John Merrick's mother being trampled by a herd of elephants might be true. Also, a lotta class-based caricatures in that movie, with the lower orders getting by far the worst of it

    Never saw his version of Dune, which seems to be what a lot of people like discussing, likely due to its connection with the larger franchise.

    I will say that the promotional claims in the 1990s that the Twin Peaks "may change the way we watch television" didn't really pan out, at least as far as network TV went.
  • The_RivThe_Riv Shipmate
    Loved his daily weather reports during Covid lockdown
  • stetsonstetson Shipmate
    Caissa wrote: »

    Hm. I had not read that obit when I made my comparison to Norman Rockwell.
  • The_Riv wrote: »
    Loved his daily weather reports during Covid lockdown

    David Lynch?
  • stetsonstetson Shipmate
    ChastMastr wrote: »
    The_Riv wrote: »
    Loved his daily weather reports during Covid lockdown

    David Lynch?

    Apparently so. You can watch some on YouTube.
  • stetsonstetson Shipmate
    stetson wrote: »
    One of the very few non-jump scare scenes in a horror flick that genuinely gave me the creeps was Bob crawling through the window of Laura's bedroom in the film version of Twin Peaks.

    The brief portrayal of Canada in that movie is not at all in the tradition of tweedy civility that dominates aesthetic impressions today. More like the lineage of Blacque Jacque Shellac, Slapshot, and the Wolverine origin-story.

    (The South Park movie kinda incorporates both stereotypes, since the two miscreants are shown as both elite in their speaking and mannerisms, but vulgar in their governance of bodily functions.)
  • The_RivThe_Riv Shipmate
    ChastMastr wrote: »
    The_Riv wrote: »
    Loved his daily weather reports during Covid lockdown

    David Lynch?

    Yes.
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