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But who can say of Moses descendents

jay_emmjay_emm Kerygmania Host
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Moses brother obviously has influencal descendents and Numbers 25 and numbers 3 list Aaron's sons. But there is no mention of Moses' children.
I don't think I'm missing a 'line of moses' elsewhere.

Meanwhile Exodus names Gershom, and in Exodus 4, his wife and sons (plural?) goes back to Egypt.

So they are mentioned and then not mentioned.

Exodus 6 also has a mini genealogy,so it's not just an Exodus/Numbers being from different traditions.

So does the bible or tradition have anything to say about what happened?

Why didn't the bible say what happened (assuming I haven't missed it)?

What if?, if they had been notable, would Moses have been the priestly line?

Has anyone used this family as a plot device, or anything (a lost bloodline where we know generation one exists)?

Any theological thoughts, it's almost notable that we have an older brother having the chosen family.

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  • Lamb ChoppedLamb Chopped Shipmate
    If i recall correctly, one of Moses’ descendants is caught up in that whole “Micah makes an idol which is stolen by the tribe of Dan” thing at the tail end of Judges. Sorry, on my phone and can’t easily look it up more. But his children would have been Levites by birth.
  • Gramps49Gramps49 Shipmate
    Lamb Chopped wrote: »
    If i recall correctly, one of Moses’ descendants is caught up in that whole “Micah makes an idol which is stolen by the tribe of Dan” thing at the tail end of Judges. Sorry, on my phone and can’t easily look it up more. But his children would have been Levites by birth.

    I do not recall any Biblical mention of the descendants of Moses. Wikipedia only has this.
  • BroJamesBroJames Purgatory Host
    Exodus 4.20 and 25 and 18.6 talk of Moses’ wife, Zipporah, and sons. Numbers 10.29 records Reuel as Moses’ father in law which suggests another wife than Zipporah whose father was Jethro. Possibly the second wife is the Cushite woman referred to in Numbers 12.1.

    Judges 1.16 records another father in law, Hobab the Kenite. And Judges 18.30 mentions “Jonathan son of Gershom, son of Moses”.

    1 Chronicles 23.13ff records another son, Eliezer, and further descendants are listed in verse 24 and following.
  • Gramps49Gramps49 Shipmate
    Thank you for correcting me. However, what happened to them?
  • jay_emmjay_emm Kerygmania Host
    Reuel also appears in the Exodus 4 account (with Jethro within writers memory), and tied to Zipporah. I'll look up to see if mother in law is a possibility.

    The judges 18 reference is interesting in many ways.
    Firstly it's very clear (I thought there might be some gershon/gershom ambiguity), not sure how it lines up with the chronicles text

    Secondly we have a long running family until the captivity (which sort of answers the immediate op, but I think leaves a lot open).

    Thirdly,it (arguably) puts a suggested date on when 'until today's is referring to.

    Fourthly, I have another shocking expose for if the "true space channel" is offered as my only way to fame and fortune. (Pitting the Danite Moses dynasty, against the Judean Aaronic)
  • jay_emmjay_emm Kerygmania Host
    The chronicles genealogy has a single son for Eliezer but though it only names one son (with a different name) as son of Gershom, it suggests others are unnamed.

    The numbers 10 passage (in the Esv) has Hobab as being the son of Reuel Moses's father in law*. Which might mean the judges reference a translation ambiguity (the esv, skips out the reference to hobab)?

    * And the dad of zipporah in exodus 2, so something mildly odd happening their.
  • HarryCHHarryCH Shipmate
    I looked at Wikipedia. I saw mentions of descendants of the sons of Moses, but almost nothing about Eliezer and Gershom themselves. I find this intriguing.
  • chrisstileschrisstiles Hell Host
    In HC circles, they see evidence of several rival priestly lines, with the Mushite line (claiming descent from Moses) based initially in Schechem and later in Shiloh having been mostly written out of the Torah (with a few remaining vestigal traces like the references in Judges). Richard Friedman has written on the topic, and there's some references in this article by Marc Leuchter, though it isn't the central thrust of the piece:

    https://www.thetorah.com/article/who-were-the-levites
  • EnochEnoch Shipmate
    edited February 9
    @chrisstiles that might be interesting if I knew what HC stands for. Please could you let me, and possibly others, know?

  • Gamma GamalielGamma Gamaliel Shipmate
    Higher Criticism?
  • chrisstileschrisstiles Hell Host
    Gamma Gamaliel wrote: »
    Higher Criticism?

    More commonly Historical Criticism, but yes.
  • Gamma GamalielGamma Gamaliel Shipmate
    Well, I could have suggested:

    Hedgehog Compass
    Household Cognativity
    Hounslow Conservatives
    Hibernian Caterpillar
    Honourable Council
    Holiday Crud
    Hemlock Crunch ...
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