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Jesus's kins interfering support

jay_emmjay_emm Kerygmania Host
edited March 13 in Kerygmania
In John 7, we get the following passage.

After this, Jesus went around in Galilee. He did not want[a] to go about in Judea because the Jewish leaders there were looking for a way to kill him. 2 But when the Jewish Festival of Tabernacles was near, 3 Jesus’ brothers said to him, “Leave Galilee and go to Judea, so that your disciples there may see the works you do. 4 No one who wants to become a public figure acts in secret. Since you are doing these things, show yourself to the world.” 5 For even his own brothers did not believe in him.

It's one that slips my mind in favour of the one where they come to take him away.

In light of James becoming a leader later, 'should' John have said something.

Is it just "why don't you do your stuff somewhere far away"?
Active conspiracy to fratricide?
Genuine belief (and in that case is John just wrong in his psychoanalysis or is John being more nuanced)

Comments

  • Lamb ChoppedLamb Chopped Shipmate
    I’m confused. What do you mean, should John have said something? When and to whom? Love the topic.
  • TurquoiseTasticTurquoiseTastic Kerygmania Host
    I lean towards the idea that his brothers did not really understand Jesus's purposes. They thought that he was building some sort of worldly kingdom that would require political clout, a high public profile, something with a bit of "Momentum" (to coin a phrase). I don't think John is necessarily implying that they were opposed to him, or wanting him to fall flat on his face. I think they are giving their advice in good faith, but their goals are not Jesus's goals.
  • jay_emmjay_emm Kerygmania Host
    In the passage. It's not like the gospels shy from pointing out Peter and the disciples failings either (but, except Judas, they have their redemption story in text). But if this is all the story you get for James (if it is about him), it seems a bit like casting shade on either the leader or martyr.
    "His brothers, did not believe till after the resurrection", might have been more informative and more cooperative.

    The remaining questions were on the brothers motives, but it's an interesting story as a whole (Jesus does go to the temple, but quietly at first, and then gives an speech)
  • Lamb ChoppedLamb Chopped Shipmate
    There's no way to prove it, but the remarks reported do seem a bit spiteful. And I can understand why, since his fame was probably causing the family a bit of bother. I've seen this kind of thing in my own family, and it sucks.
  • TwangistTwangist Shipmate
    I do like the warts and all nature of many scriptural narratives.
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