Wheat and tares together sown (Matthew 13: 24-43)

TurquoiseTasticTurquoiseTastic Kerygmania Host
edited August 3 in Kerygmania
So we had this reading - the parable of the wheat and the tares/darnel at this Sunday's morning service.

The excellent sermon concentrated on the theme of judgment being above our pay grade - do not assume that someone is a "weed" because that is not our call to make. I also liked the preacher's image of how eventually the wheat becomes distinct from the darnel because its head is bowed down by the grain it yields - it is ultimately humble and fruitful.

The questions in my mind are:

1. Why is this parable so dualistic? Most of Scripture emphasises that everything comes from God. But when the farmer is asked where the weed seeds come from he says - "an enemy has done this". And Jesus reaffirms this in his explanation.

2. Why do the disciples require an explanation? The interpretation Jesus gives seems pretty straightforward. Is it because they are hoping for some different interpretation? Or are they just being slow, like in Mark 4:13?

Comments

  • On number 2, I wonder if it's because Jesus has just told another parable about seeds and soil, which turned out to be a lot more complicated to understand than this one. Maybe they're afraid they might be missing something?
  • LatchKeyKidLatchKeyKid Shipmate
    edited August 4
    It is interesting that the disciples require an explanation, as earlier we are told
    ‘To you it has been given to know the secrets* of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been given
    ,
    but they do not have that knowledge here.

    * or mysteries
  • I suspect Jesus was thinking in the long term--not that they would somehow magically know it now, but that he himself would be explaining things, all the way up to the day of his death.
  • But there is nothing like "You will come to understand" in the passages.

    And, generally, parables are understood to be stories that make clear, or focus on, a point, not mysteries that you will later come to decode. small sca

    Perhaps the intended audience is not familiar with agricultural practices, just as most of us today are not familiar with small scale, sheepfold cooperative, shepherding practices.
  • Merry VoleMerry Vole Shipmate
    Interesting that the furnace is not just for 'all who do evil' but for 'everything that causes sin'.
    If 'everything that causes sin' is dealt with at the final judgement then maybe the 'all who do evil' will be a very small or zero number because the cause of sin is ultimately dealt with. Cf in Revelation the devil is cast into a lake of fire I seem to recall.
  • But there is nothing like "You will come to understand" in the passages.

    And, generally, parables are understood to be stories that make clear, or focus on, a point, not mysteries that you will later come to decode. small sca

    Perhaps the intended audience is not familiar with agricultural practices, just as most of us today are not familiar with small scale, sheepfold cooperative, shepherding practices.

    I meant that their access to him (and resulting ability to ask “What the heck did that mean?” is in fact what Jesus is referring to when he says “To you it has been given.” Right now the crowds get the parables only, the disciples get those plus Jesus’ explanations (and it says somewhere “afterwards, when he was alone with his disciples, he explained everything”, sorry, don’t have the ref on my phone). It’s not some supernatural ability to understand (though that may come too after Pentecost with the coming of the Holy Spirit). It’s simply a different level of access right now—and not one intended to stay different forever. Because the very reason for the disciples’ better access is so that in the future, they will be able to pass all this along to the rest of the world via preaching and writing (the deposit of the faith). And they did.
  • KarlLBKarlLB Shipmate
    Is there any link between this and the injunction against growing two crops in the same field?
  • LatchKeyKidLatchKeyKid Shipmate
    This is what I found in Deut 22:9
    You shall not sow your vineyard with a second kind of seed, or the whole yield will have to be forfeited, both the crop that you have sown and the yield of the vineyard itself.

    It is strange because the vine is a perennial, not normally grown from seed today, and would require more than one year to fruit, I think. A quick search finds 3 years.

    Also, the tares are not sewn by the owner. So I think the similarity is incidental.
  • I'm not sure anyone tries to 'sew' tares. Quick tricky. An enemy might try to sow them though.

    Ahem ...

    I agree with @Lamb Chopped on the 'to you it has been given' thing but she'd expect me to say that the apostolic deposit doesn't only consist of the apostolic writings.

    Which isn't to knock them off their primary place of course.

    I agree with @LatchKeyKid on the similarity with the Deuteronomic injunction against sowing two kinds of crops in the same field as probably coincidental, but perhaps the original audience may have seen a parallel there even if the specific agricultural detail doesn't quite match across.

    We are talking about parables, of course, not an agricultural college textbook.
  • Lamb ChoppedLamb Chopped Shipmate
    The prohibition in Deuteronomy on sowing two kinds of crops in the same field is part of a set of similar rules, including "don't wear clothing made of two different kinds of fibers," and the like. They appear to be a kind of acted-out parable against the dangers of syncretism between the worship of YHWH and local idols. I don't think they have much of anything to do with this particular parable, though.
    Merry Vole wrote: »
    Interesting that the furnace is not just for 'all who do evil' but for 'everything that causes sin'.
    If 'everything that causes sin' is dealt with at the final judgement then maybe the 'all who do evil' will be a very small or zero number because the cause of sin is ultimately dealt with. Cf in Revelation the devil is cast into a lake of fire I seem to recall.

    I really like this.

    Going back to the original question about dualism, it's clear Jesus did believe in a devil, and is attributing the introduction of evil into the world to that individual's actions. I'm not at all sure that the enemy is the focus of this parable, though. I think the focus is on "What do we do now, in this messed-up situation?" and the answer of the landowner (God) is different from that of his eager helpers ("sort matters out right now"). I appreciate God's willingness to wait, because I've seen too much harm done by people who rush in and try to execute final judgement now, when things are still really murky and a lot of people end up hurt by it.
  • Lamb ChoppedLamb Chopped Shipmate
    I just ran across another bit of those kinds of rules in my reading (Leviticus 19:19):
    “You shall keep my statutes. You shall not let your cattle breed with a different kind. You shall not sow your field with two kinds of seed, nor shall you wear a garment of cloth made of two kinds of material.

    It seems to be promoting a cultural idea of singlemindedness, if I can put it that way. Which of course is ultimately intended to keep them from mixing religions.

  • Indeed.

    I used to be involved in a 'restorationist' charismatic evangelical church which applied these verses to maintaining some kind of spiritual purity at a congregational level.

    God didn't approve of 'mixture.'
    He wanted a church where everyone was fervently firing on all cylinders all the time.

    We never really knew how to interpret the parable of the wheat and the tares and jumped through all manner of hermeneutical hoops in order to make it fit our neat schema.

    Life isn't like that. The Kingdom of God isn't like that, at least not this side of the Parousia.

    @Lamb Chopped is right, any attempt to step in and straighten everything out in advance ultimately ends in pastoral disaster.

    As the late, great Reformed missiologist Lesslie Newbiggin said, 'Any attempt to bring Heaven down from above invariably brings Hell up from below.'

    Our lives are messy. We'll have 'tare' like characteristics as well (hopefully) as wheaty ones.

    We are all work in progress.

    We live between the now and the not yet.
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