No idea about the UK, but in the US first-generation immigrants commit fewer crimes per capita than US-born citizens.
Statistics are incomplete in the United Kingdom, but while recent immigrants are slightly over represented in the prison population, they are also more likely to be young adult men, quite overwhelmingly over represented in the prison population as a whole.
The best source for this kind of information is Migration Observatory, the name of which would make you think it is an offshoot of Reform but appears pretty sound to me, especially as the Home Office doesn’t publish much information on this topic, which only fans the fires.
Migration Observatory is a long term academic project into all aspects of migration into and out of the UK, run through Oxford University independently of the Home Office or other UK government agency (excepting research council money that is awarded on academic merit) or any of the various refugee and migrant agencies (from the UNHCR down to the local church putting on an afternoon to sample cuisine from the nice new folk living down the road). You can't get much more "sound" than that.
Besides, it doesn't always follow that economic depression leads to a right-ward swing in politics, and certainly not support for the far right. Oswald Mosley found that out in the 1930s, when he tried to organise mass demonstrations in working class communities across the country where the depression had resulted in mass unemployment. Repeatedly he found that working class men, especially unemployed working class men (who presumably had more free time than those still in employment), were more than willing to pick up broom handles and other implements and crack the heads of blackshirts parading through their communities.
Which is a rather romanticised view I'm afraid.
Moseley had a lot of working class support in Stoke on Trent, for instance and also in Birmingham and other large cities. There were of course working class fellas who opposed the Black Shirts but we also have to accept that many didn't and that Moseley did garner working class support - as indeed Reform are doing.
Come and visit me. I can take you to places where that's readily apparent.
I've heard, if not actually read, that Hitler thought Mosley made a big mistake by dressing up his followers in uniforms, because the British(or so Hitler thought) don't react well to militaristic imagery.
The situation was pretty mixed in The Potteries. My son-in-law's great grandmother on his father's side was a very active Communist but left the Party because she felt 'Uncle Joe' Stalin exerted too much influence.
Or so family legend runs.
I've no idea whether that comment by Hitler is true or apocryphal, @Stetson. Uniforms appeal to some people and not others and I'm not aware that the British are more or less prone to them than anyone else.
I have a friend whose grandfather was in the Blackshirts. She still has his belt with the insignia on the buckle. It's a chilling piece of kit.
The family are deeply ashamed of him of course, not only was he a fascist but he was an inveterate philanderer. He ran a pub on the South Downs had serial affairs and drilled local men by night until we'll after the War apparently. Although, bizarrely perhaps, he volunteered for ground duties with the RAF during the War because, even though he was fascist in his politics he didn't like the idea of Hitler bombing or invading Britain.
I've no idea whether that comment by Hitler is true or apocryphal, @Stetson. Uniforms appeal to some people and not others and I'm not aware that the British are more or less prone to them than anyone else.
FWIW, George Orwell wrote in England Your England that the English are characterized by, among other qualities, a "reverence for law" and a "hatred for uniforms". Though I have often thought that his commentary on the English character is a little over-egged. "Old maids bicycling to Holy Communion in the morning mist" strikes me as something you coulda seen anywhere with churches offering daily sacraments.
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Statistics are incomplete in the United Kingdom, but while recent immigrants are slightly over represented in the prison population, they are also more likely to be young adult men, quite overwhelmingly over represented in the prison population as a whole.
The best source for this kind of information is Migration Observatory, the name of which would make you think it is an offshoot of Reform but appears pretty sound to me, especially as the Home Office doesn’t publish much information on this topic, which only fans the fires.
BTW, I tend to read Reform - the 'political' party - as Deform, and the odious Lowe's Restore as Destroy...
A plague on both their houses.
Which is a rather romanticised view I'm afraid.
Moseley had a lot of working class support in Stoke on Trent, for instance and also in Birmingham and other large cities. There were of course working class fellas who opposed the Black Shirts but we also have to accept that many didn't and that Moseley did garner working class support - as indeed Reform are doing.
Come and visit me. I can take you to places where that's readily apparent.
Or so family legend runs.
I've no idea whether that comment by Hitler is true or apocryphal, @Stetson. Uniforms appeal to some people and not others and I'm not aware that the British are more or less prone to them than anyone else.
I have a friend whose grandfather was in the Blackshirts. She still has his belt with the insignia on the buckle. It's a chilling piece of kit.
The family are deeply ashamed of him of course, not only was he a fascist but he was an inveterate philanderer. He ran a pub on the South Downs had serial affairs and drilled local men by night until we'll after the War apparently. Although, bizarrely perhaps, he volunteered for ground duties with the RAF during the War because, even though he was fascist in his politics he didn't like the idea of Hitler bombing or invading Britain.
FWIW, George Orwell wrote in England Your England that the English are characterized by, among other qualities, a "reverence for law" and a "hatred for uniforms". Though I have often thought that his commentary on the English character is a little over-egged. "Old maids bicycling to Holy Communion in the morning mist" strikes me as something you coulda seen anywhere with churches offering daily sacraments.