AS: More tea, Vicar? - the British thread 2020

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  • AravisAravis Shipmate
    “Little bean things” were generally meals with the pulse type of bean as a major ingredient, rather than long green runner beans which she liked.

    I found the list yesterday so she can have a look at it later. There are 25 items on the list of Faveroit Meals; she was generally pretty good with trying different types of food. She also enjoyed cooking, though didn’t like being supervised (“Mummy, stop being a back seat cooker!”)
  • In a rash moment a while ago I bought two duck breasts from Tesco. I ate one in a recipe I think, from BBC Good Food, all right, but nothing special. Now what do I do with the other one? Can I pan fry it, after crisping the skin and rendering the fat? and how long? It wasn't a very big duck. Lost a lot of my sense of taste - how did that happen? - so something spicy with it might improve things!

    Seems unusually busy outside today - cars up and down every few minutes. Normally only ever see delivery vans since lockdown. Presumably everyone has run out of whatever they panic-bought earlier!
  • FirenzeFirenze Shipmate, Host Emeritus
    Put it in a cold pan, skin side down. Switch on heat and leave until it is nicely browned. Turn and give the other side a minute or two. Then either put the whole pan in the oven to finish cooking through (10 to 20 minutes depending on how pink you like your duck) or put it in an oven dish you've had heating. Said dish could also have been roasting a few veg, so you could end up with an all-in-one traybake. Eg, carrots and parsnips - add the duck, drizzle over some honey, cook til just caramelising.

  • NenyaNenya All Saints Host, Ecclesiantics & MW Host
    I had a very successful foray to the shops and returned with pretty much all the groceries I needed (including two bottles of wine which is strictly speaking more of a "want" although it feels like a "need") plus some trays of pretty pansies for the garden tubs.

    We're having chicken in green curry sauce this evening - I've only recently discovered the joys of green curry paste and have added the recipe to my repertoire - with brown rice and puppodums. I need to get cooking actually... I sat on the patio reading after lunch and it was lovely - making the most of being able to do that before the allergies kick in. I've done my Slimming World meeting via Zoom and watched our church's mid weekly meeting on Facebook. I've got another Zoom meeting at 7. All go, innit?
  • la vie en rougela vie en rouge Purgatory Host, Circus Host
    @Bishops Finger If you're after fresh radishes, they're one of the world's easiest vegetables to grow and work perfectly well in a pot. They're ready in about three weeks after sowing. When you've just pulled them up, they are delicious. I like bought radishes but they can't compare with straight out of the ground. I'm fond of them the French way, with butter and salt. We need to plant some on our balcony. We already planted tomatoes, which are growing nicely.
  • Salmon with leek risotto for tea here, followed by some apples I gently simmered in last night’s Helene syrup, served with cream.

    I have some radish seeds to sow, alongside a bunch of other veg but I’m not up to gardening yet. Need to get my sons to do some hoeing for me.

    When my heart rate returns to normal I will be able to drink alcohol and coffee again. My first order is going to be an espresso martini!
  • FirenzeFirenze Shipmate, Host Emeritus
    The aubergine is salted, the spuds are microwaving, the ragu is simmering and the Parmesan is grated. Presently I will go fry the aubergine, slice the potatoes, crumble the feta, beat up an egg in yoghurt, and assemble the moussaka.

    When asked to suggest something quick and simple for dinner, Mr F has a tendency to say 'moussaka' and then wonder why I scream and hit him with something.

    But since we have world enough and time...
  • :lol: The children used to have the same tendency to think lasagne could be produced in minutes, just like a ready-meal. I found the solution was to give them detailed recipe and instructions when they went off to university.
  • My daughter has a similar longing for lasagne, complicated by a GF and dairy free diet. The ready made versions are forcing healthy eating by adding oodles of beans to the ragu. The thing that placated her inner carnivore without me wanting to throttle her was Jack Monroe's Sausagne using GF sausages and pasta, vegan "mozzarella" and "cheddar". Apparently it was very satisfying. I don't know because I wasn't wasting unnecessarily expensive ingredients on me when I don't like meat. Which is really an excuse for eating something she doesn't like/can't eat, like cheese. It didn't feel so labour intensive as I made the sausagne for 6 and froze the other 5 portions for later.

    Tonight's supper was boiled new potatoes served hot with the last of the duck, wilted ramsoms and a vinaigrette made with balsamic vinegar. I feel almost as if I've overdone the garlic bread at a 80s party.
  • @Bishops Finger If you're after fresh radishes, they're one of the world's easiest vegetables to grow and work perfectly well in a pot. They're ready in about three weeks after sowing. When you've just pulled them up, they are delicious. I like bought radishes but they can't compare with straight out of the ground. I'm fond of them the French way, with butter and salt. We need to plant some on our balcony. We already planted tomatoes, which are growing nicely.

    Thanks for that - I might give it a try, although the deck of the Ark doesn't offer much in the way of shelter from the Stormy Blast (and the air is salty, too).

    Butter and salt sound good, but I like CHEESE with radishes as well!

  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    That sausage lasagne looks really nice - I might have to subject S. to it some time. I wonder if it would work with minced vegetarian vegetarian mince?

    We had a rethink about supper, and I cobbled together a pasta thing with tomatoes, chopped asparagus, salmon, a few halved mange-touts, onion and garlic, and it really wasn't too bad.

    Someone's doing a Tesco's run in the morning, so we've asked for a few things for making a potato curry.
  • Tonight it was comfort food: some excellent sausagez from our far shop with wilted ground elder (yes, I do mean the pervasive garden weed) and celeriac puree, followed by cheese, and mixed berries with Greek yoghurt.

    Tomorrow is Big Shopping Day, for us and for the shut-ins we're supplying.

    Tomorrow too the builder should be finishing off the guttering, then sorting out the steps from the new utility/laundry room into the garden.
  • MMMMMM Shipmate
    We had lentil soup with home made rolls again last night. Same as last week, but oh, so delicious. And we had lots of stock made out of vegetable trimmings, so why not?

    MMM
  • Wilted ground elder??? Young bits I imagine, why not cook it? The bottom end of my garden is full of it, I'm not exaggerating! Never knew you could cook it. Please tell me more!

    Actually I had heard the Roman's ate it, but I dont trust the Roman's!
  • Well, they used that disgusting fishy sauce in all their cooking!
  • I think there are quite a lot of plants, normally regarded as 'weeds', that can actually be eaten (some cooked, some raw). No doubt there are numerous books/articles on the subject!

    The former Mrs BF once bought a book of Roman recipes (I think at one of the Roman villa sites here in the Sad Southlands - can't recall which).

    IIRC, honey featured quite prominently, though we were disappointed to find that the local butcher did NOT stock edible dormice:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edible_dormouse
  • Baptist TrainfanBaptist Trainfan Shipmate
    edited April 2020
    This is where the Ship is so useful! I had no idea that we had two species of dormice, nor that one of them is edible - but we do: https://tinyurl.com/ya3j9sxo. However both seem to be protected species so your butcher would indeed be a Naughty Boy (or Girl) if s/he were to sell them. The edible variety seem to be pretty massive and can even be dangerous: read the caption: https://tinyurl.com/ycjdgb9d.

    PS According to you-know-where, "Wild edible dormice are still consumed in Slovenia, as well as in Croatia. In Slovenia they are considered a rare delicacy and dormouse trapping is a tradition".
  • I fancy that Dormice might taste something like Rabbit.

    Quite nice in a stew, say, with herbs, carrots, celery, and a white wine sauce...
    :naughty:
  • You called? I own a Roman recipe book, I have recipes should you wish
  • MMMMMM Shipmate
    Yes, we have an Apicius somewhere.

    We also have a lot of ground elder in the garden. But no edible dormice, as far as I’m aware.

    MMM
  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    The ingredients for the potato curry arrived this morning: I'm going to add curry leaves, which I've never tried before, and chickpeas, lentils, carrots and peas. Shortly I'll head off to the interweb to check the proportions of other spices (why didn't I bring my little recipe notebook with me instead of packing it up with all my other recipe books?). As you might expect, it'll feature a generous quantity of garlic. :mrgreen:
  • kingsfoldkingsfold Shipmate
    edited April 2020
    This is where the Ship is so useful! I had no idea that we had two species of dormice, nor that one of them is edible - but we do: https://tinyurl.com/ya3j9sxo. However both seem to be protected species so your butcher would indeed be a Naughty Boy (or Girl) if s/he were to sell them. The edible variety seem to be pretty massive and can even be dangerous: read the caption: https://tinyurl.com/ycjdgb9d.

    Thought that house looked familiar, then saw the caption detailing which road. I do know it - two or three doors down from some friends of mine - and I used to know (by sight within town) the owner.... Come to that, I'm pretty sure I know the photographer as well!
  • DormouseDormouse Shipmate
    Just popped in to say Eeeeek. I am not tasty.
  • Ha! So how come the Romans were so keen on snacking on you?
    :naughty:

    Methinks the rodent doth protest too much....
    :wink:
  • Penny SPenny S Shipmate
    I suspect the dormouse pot was a thing like a fondue set. Acquired, but not used. There's some reasonable things in Apicius. Lamb chops with lovage, I recall, and I now have lovage.
  • @Thomasina .... apparently one can use excess sweet potato in baking!

    Various cake recipes plus a very intriguing sweet potato, oat and peanut butter cookie. Which will be tried one day!
  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    I was well chuffed with the potato curry - though I say it what shouldn't, I think I got the spices about right.

    My nephew, his partner and kids turned up just before we were about to eat, bearing still-warm frittatas and a bottle of wine (I think S. had given them some wine the other day when they'd missed the shops), which they set in the driveway and I picked up. It was just such a nice gesture - and the frittatas were delicious.

    It was lovely to see them, but frustrating that we couldn't give the kids a hug, but they were very good about it, bless them.
  • Penny S wrote: »
    I suspect the dormouse pot was a thing like a fondue set. Acquired, but not used. There's some reasonable things in Apicius. Lamb chops with lovage, I recall, and I now have lovage.
    Penny S wrote: »
    I suspect the dormouse pot was a thing like a fondue set. Acquired, but not used. There's some reasonable things in Apicius. Lamb chops with lovage, I recall, and I now have lovage.

    Hey!!!!
  • Is this what being in quarantine does to us? Cannibalism? First Dormouse and now Lamb Chopped, not to mention Piglet! Yikes! I'm glad owls are considered inedible!
    :fearful:
  • FirenzeFirenze Shipmate, Host Emeritus
    Pigwidgeon wrote: »
    I'm glad owls are considered inedible!
    :fearful:

    For now.
  • BroJamesBroJames Purgatory Host
    150 years ago in the Siege of Paris they were eating cat, dog and rat, and zoo animals - wolf, bear, camel and elephant.
  • NenyaNenya All Saints Host, Ecclesiantics & MW Host
    BroJames wrote: »
    150 years ago in the Siege of Paris they were eating cat, dog and rat, and zoo animals - wolf, bear, camel and elephant.

    This reminds me of a poignant sentence towards the end of Corrie ten Boom's "The Hiding Place" when she goes back to the family home and there's no sign of their cat. It goes something like, "In the years of Holland's hunger, few cats or dogs survived."

    On a more cheerful* note, I'm busy preparing a bolognese sauce to go into the slow cooker for consumption later. Fridays are busy Zoomy days for Mr Nen and me and meals have to be fitted in somewhere along the line. A busy Zoomy evening means I won't make the Ship's meeting again; I hope to one day soon.

    *I say "cheerful" - I guess it's not that cheerful for the turkey who supplied the mince... :neutral:
  • Slow cooker in use here more often these days....
  • EigonEigon Shipmate
    Re: eating owls - isn't there a Carol Duffy poem that ends:
    "but I have never, ever eaten a barn owl, so perhaps I am okay."?
  • Who's eating what now? I don't like the way culinary discussion has turned in my absence :-)
  • no comment
  • Husband made a delicious bacon and olive salad for lunch.
  • MiffyMiffy Shipmate
    Pigwidgeon wrote: »
    Is this what being in quarantine does to us? Cannibalism? First Dormouse and now Lamb Chopped, not to mention Piglet! Yikes! I'm glad owls are considered inedible!
    :fearful:

    Before anybody gets anymore bright ideas...🤨...don’t even think about it!🐇😟

  • We did eat porcupine when we lived in West Africa. It was rather fatty.
  • But the spines would have come in useful as toothpicks, no?

    I'll get me coat...
  • Penny SPenny S Shipmate
    Penny S wrote: »
    I suspect the dormouse pot was a thing like a fondue set. Acquired, but not used. There's some reasonable things in Apicius. Lamb chops with lovage, I recall, and I now have lovage.
    Penny S wrote: »
    I suspect the dormouse pot was a thing like a fondue set. Acquired, but not used. There's some reasonable things in Apicius. Lamb chops with lovage, I recall, and I now have lovage.

    Hey!!!!

    Sorry!!! My mind does not work in such a way that it associates names of people with recipe books! Didn't notice!
  • Bishops FingerBishops Finger Shipmate
    edited April 2020
    I think The Plague is driving us all a bit doo-lally.

    I was a bit worried, back there, with all the talk of Severed Fingers...delicious though they might be (or was that on the Coping thread? I get confused so easily these days...)
    :fearful:
  • funny how many of us have names that can be (sometimes loosely) associated with food.
  • FirenzeFirenze Shipmate, Host Emeritus
    Indeed. I often feel compelled to buy M&S's Salami Firenze pizza.
  • But the spines would have come in useful as toothpicks, no?
    No, they go soft during cooking ...

    (Actually, the porcupine meat was skinned, and hence de-spined, before I got it!)

  • Firenze wrote: »
    Indeed. I often feel compelled to buy M&S's Salami Firenze pizza.
    Good thing you're not called Margherita or Giuseppe https://tinyurl.com/ycbtfrbk (which we're having tonight, from Waitrose).

  • SarasaSarasa All Saints Host
    Well my name comes from Sarasa Comet which is a type of goldfish. I used to have a very large one called Voldemort, that once escaped from the jaws of a heron. I doubt he would have taken kindly to anyone else wanting him for dinner either.
    Today I have experimented with left overs in the cupboard to make a vegan lemon drizzle cake. I'll let you know what it's like later.
    My son, who is an extremely good cook and extremely dyslexic emailed me yesterday to say he'd made himself a chilli dish for dinner with home made gwokaml on the side. I knew what he meant.
  • Wet Kipper wrote: »
    funny how many of us have names that can be (sometimes loosely) associated with food.

    Some of us have names that represent our saintly demeanours rather than beastly natures... ;)

  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    Firenze wrote: »
    Indeed. I often feel compelled to buy M&S's Salami Firenze pizza.

    Sounds delicious! :wink:

    This evening, we may be patronising the Balerno Fry, as they're offering a delivery service. One of the things I missed whe we lived in Canada was scampi and chips - you could sometimes get it, but like bacon, television and crossword puzzles, it just Wasn't The Same - so I think that might be on the cards.
  • wilted ground elder (yes, I do mean the pervasive garden weed) .
    My one attempt to cook ground elder (over 30 years ago) was an unmitigated disaster - more to do with my cooking than the intrinsic properties of the plant as a foodstuff.
    We do not have it in our current garden, but we do have a lot of allium triquetrum, aka three-cornered leek, which is equally difficult to eradicate.
    Inspired by TheOrganist's culinary foraging I made lunch with some of it today.
    Finely chopped and stirred into beaten egg, it made a lovely omelette, folded round some grated strong red Leicester cheese.

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