* Much as I like Lux Eoi (it is by Sullivan, after all ), I really think that hymn should go to Stuttgart.
Hyfrydol for ever!
You are, of course, absolutely right: I was thinking of the wrong hymn altogether ...
Senility knocking at my door?
Is now a bad time to say it's obviously In Babilone....or maybe it'll just be another case of @Nick Tamen and I valiantly holding down the fort for hymn preferences on This Side Of The Pond, haha.
* Much as I like Lux Eoi (it is by Sullivan, after all ), I really think that hymn should go to Stuttgart.
Hyfrydol for ever!
You are, of course, absolutely right: I was thinking of the wrong hymn altogether ...
Senility knocking at my door?
Is now a bad time to say it's obviously In Babilone....or maybe it'll just be another case of @Nick Tamen and I valiantly holding down the fort for hymn preferences on This Side Of The Pond, haha.
Oh dear, @RecoveringCynic. As much as I love IN BABILONE, and as much as I want to have your back, “Hail, Thou Once Despised Jesus” is sung to PLEADING SAVIOR in my tribe. Or at least, it was the last time it appeared in one of our hymnals (The Hymnbook, 1955).
Is now a bad time to say it's obviously In Babilone....or maybe it'll just be another case of @Nick Tamen and I valiantly holding down the fort for hymn preferences on This Side Of The Pond, haha.
Oh dear, @RecoveringCynic. As much as I love IN BABILONE, and as much as I want to have your back, “Hail, Thou Once Despised Jesus” is sung to PLEADING SAVIOR in my tribe. Or at least, it was the last time it appeared in one of our hymnals (The Hymnbook, 1955).
I feel like I've seen it to PLEADING SAVIOR at least once in my lifetime. Certainly never Lux Eoi or Stuttgart, of which the latter I would maybe only associate with an alternate tune for Come, Thou Long Expected Jesus, but only after HYFRYDOL or JEFFERSON (although I do admit that isn't a very TEC sentiment, them using STUTTGART).
Each to their own, I suppose. Some might feel that Tell out, my soul and Woodlands have been over-exposed...which IMHO is true of Lord, for the years...
Yes. When I was at theological college the chapel worship was often led by students, who often chose the current favourite worship songs. After one such service the Principal commented that some of the songs were fine in themselves, but "worn out" due to overuse. This is certainly true for some hymns IME too, eg "Dear Lord and Father" (which I can't stand anyway), "Brother, sister, let me serve you" and (dare I say) the dreaded "Kumbaya" - although I haven't heard that for a long time.
Yes. When I was at theological college the chapel worship was often led by students, who often chose the current favourite worship songs. After one such service the Principal commented that some of the songs were fine in themselves, but "worn out" due to overuse. This is certainly true for some hymns IME too, eg "Dear Lord and Father" (which I can't stand anyway), "Brother, sister, let me serve you" and (dare I say) the dreaded "Kumbaya" - although I haven't heard that for a long time.
Huh.
FatherInCharge often inflicts a version of the Lord's Prayer, droned to Kumbaya, on his poor little band of faithful. Dear Lord and Father is also a favourite, which personally I quite like, but, again, it can be overused.
So who else is planning to use ‘Tell out my soul” on Sunday?
(RIP Timothy Dudley-Smith).
Not me. I really hate the tune it is sung to.
I sometimes privately parody the way it overemphasizes the word "voice" in the hymn's second line. "Unnum...bered...blessings give my spee...rit... VOICE!" and yet again I startle the cats.
There is "Which was the Son of" by Arvo Pärt (Luke 3: 21-28), but it is hardly likely to be grouped with the three Canticles found earlier in the Gospel.
I wasn't there in person (alas), but the Assumption Day Mass at Salzburg Cathedral this morning featured two hymns with tunes that would be familiar to many people in this country, to wit, Lasst uns erfreuen (sung to All creatures of our God and King) and St Theodulph (sung to All glory, laud, and honour).
The first of these included even more Alleluias than usual!
I wasn't there in person (alas), but the Assumption Day Mass at Salzburg Cathedral this morning featured two hymns with tunes that would be familiar to many people in this country, to wit, Lasst uns erfreuen (sung to All creatures of our God and King) and St Theodulph (sung to All glory, laud, and honour).
The first of these included even more Alleluias than usual!
I have no doubt he behaved himself in a seemly manner on both occasions...
Assumption-tide tomorrow at Our Place, and AFAIK the following hymns will be sung:
Ye who own the faith of Jesus (first 4 verses - Daily, daily)
Something from the Sheet* Tell out, my soul (Woodlands - hymn suggested by Me, and gladly adopted by FatherInCharge in memory of +Timothy) Ye who own the faith of Jesus (the remainder - Daily, daily)
*this may be Thomas Ken's Her virgin eyes saw God incarnate born (Farley Castle), which isn't in our default hymnbook. Here's verse 4:
Heaven with transcendent joys her entrance graced,
near to his throne her Son his Mother placed;
and here below, now she's of heaven possest,
all generations are to call her blest.
Possibly a rather radical sentiment for a 17thC Anglican cleric!
I have no doubt he behaved himself in a seemly manner on both occasions...
On one occasion he rushed off straight after the service. On the other he remained to eat sandwiches in the Church Hall (much to the delight of the Brownies who, when they met later on, scoured the floor to see if they could find Mr Bean's crumbs).
When I needed a neighbour
Put peace into each other's hands
During communion:
Let us break bread together with the Lord
Father we love You, we worship and adore You
Tell out my soul
I was playing this morning and was congratulated on managing to find songs fitting the 'bread of life' theme for the fourth week running. And without touching 'I am the bread of life' which I really dislike!
Can we sing about something other than bread next week please, lectionary devisers?!
“Glorious things of thee are spoken” - Austria.
“I will enter his gates with thanksgiving in my heart”.
“How lovely is thy dwelling-place”- Harington/Retirement.
“Here within this house of prayer” (unknown, but relevant to theme
and in memory of Timothy Dudley-Smith) - Heathlands.
“God is in his temple” - Groningen.
Assumption-tide at Our Place, with the hymns I listed yesterday.
The *Something from the Sheet* was a Marian hymn, sung to the tune (by W H Doane) usually associated with Fanny Crosby's To God be the glory...my Spy couldn't recall the words (being busy with incense etc. as this was the Offertory Hymn), but reckoned that Fanny Crosby would probably have disapproved...
An excellent turnout, despite many Regulars being at Away.
Parish Communion
Be thou my vision - Slane
Jesus is King- Gwendy Churchill
When morning gilds the skies- Laudes Domini
Bread of heaven - B o h
O God beyond all praising- Thaxted
Piano accompaniment so no sung Mass
Evensong list
Angel voices - Gerontius
When morning gilds-really??
Let all the world -Luckingham
Alleluia sing to Jesus -Hyfrydol
Introit- O taste and see - RVW
Anthem- Jesu joy of man’s desiring- JSB
I was Having A Day Off, but if I'd been there, I'd have enjoyed/endured*:
Awake my soul, and with the sun - Morning Hymn God forgave my sin - Freely, freely Angel voices, ever singing - Angel Voices Be still and know - Bread of Heaven All over the world - All Over the World
* I'll leave it to you to work out which ones would have been which ...
Assumption-tide at Our Place, with the hymns I listed yesterday.
The *Something from the Sheet* was a Marian hymn, sung to the tune (by W H Doane) usually associated with Fanny Crosby's To God be the glory...my Spy couldn't recall the words (being busy with incense etc. as this was the Offertory Hymn), but reckoned that Fanny Crosby would probably have disapproved...
That last line risked a shower of coffee on my table.
Today, we had:
“The Lord Is God” (paraphrase of the Shema)/AZMON
“When God Restored Our Common Life” (Ps. 126 paraphrase)/RESIGNATION
“Go, My Children, with My Blessing”/AR HYD Y NOS
Ye who own the faith of Jesus (Daily Daily)
Tell out my soul (Woodlands)
Lights abode celestial Salem (Regent Square)
Her virgin eyes saw God incarnate born (Ellers)
Ye watchers and ye holy ones
"Solemn Evensong and Devotioms"
Hail O star that pointest (Ave maris stella)
Virgin born we bow before thee (Quem pastores)
Ave Maria blessed maid (St Alban)
O saving victim opening wide (Old 100th)
Therefore we before him bending (Westminster Abbey)
Psalm 117
All rsther up the candle for me especially the Devotions part but the people clearly enjoyed it and the singing was good.
Hymns
When morning gilds the skies, / Laudes Domini
Eat this bread, / Eat this bread (Taizé)
I will sing the wondrous story, / Hyfrydol
Mine eyes have seen the glory, / Battle Hymn
Choir
O taste and see, / R. Vaughan Williams
Ave verum corpus, / Camille Saint-Saëns
Sunday evening. Open air service on the harbour wall, with silver band:
To God be the glory (TO GOD BE THE GLORY)
Give me oil in my lamp (SING HOSANNA)
Guide me, O thou great Jehovah (CWM RHONDDA)
How deep the Father’s love for us (HOW DEEP THE FATHER'S LOVE FOR US)
Great is thy faithfulness (FAITHFULNESS (Runyan))
I will sing the wondrous story (HYFRYDOL)
The day thou gavest (ST. CLEMENT (Scholefield))
A bright and breezy evening, with a threat of rain that happily didn’t materialise.
At our 9 o'clock communion:
Christ Triumphant, Ever Reigning - GUITING POWER
Amazing Grace - NEW BRITAIN
There is a Higher Throne - Keith & Krystin Getty
Our offerings this morning, as chosen by our lovely but liturgically-illiterate organist/choirmistress:
Sing glory to God - Ash Grove Gloria* Fight the good fight - Duke Street Oft in danger, oft in woe - Innocents O perfect love - O Perfect Love** O worship the Lord in the beauty of holiness
* what's the point, when we'll be singing the Gloria in a couple of minutes anyway? It's even placed with the other assorted settings of bits of the Mass at the back of the hymn book ...
** If she'd looked at the words, she might have realised that the only occasion for which this is suitable is a wedding. <rolleyes>
It’s never easy to offer advice, but are you RSCM affiliated? If so, she would get Sunday by Sunday which offers suggestions for hymns for RCL, Roman Catholic and Common Worship lectionaries for a range of hymn books, with indications of which scripture they refer to and/or where they might be used in the service. If not, hymnary.org has suggestions for each Sunday based on the RCL readings.
I’ve no illusions about what hard and thankless work it is choosing hymns.
I'd be very surprised if we were RSCM affiliated. I'm very conscious that I'm not a liturgical expert but I was married to one for over 30 years, and I think some of his expertise rubbed off a bit ...
I might ask her about SBS, and offer to meet her for coffee and a chat; she has asked my opinion on musical matters before so I don't think I'd be stepping out of line.
Google is my friend for RSCM (Royal School of Church Music) but I need some help with RCL and SBS, please, as I'm assuming they don't stand for Regional Container Lines and Special Boat Service.
Our Place had the following rather eccentric selection for Trinity 13:
Firmly I believe and truly (Shipston) Sweet Sacrament divine (Divine Mysteries) Let all the world in every corner sing (Luckington) When a knight won his spurs (Stowey)
The final hymn had been requested by one of the faithful, presumably remembering his/her schooldays...although FatherInCharge reckoned it fitted in with the readings (!), and was suggested by the index of hymns for Sundays at the back of our default hymnbook (Complete Anglican Hymns Old and New).
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You are, of course, absolutely right: I was thinking of the wrong hymn altogether ...
Senility knocking at my door?
Is now a bad time to say it's obviously In Babilone....or maybe it'll just be another case of @Nick Tamen and I valiantly holding down the fort for hymn preferences on This Side Of The Pond, haha.
I feel like I've seen it to PLEADING SAVIOR at least once in my lifetime. Certainly never Lux Eoi or Stuttgart, of which the latter I would maybe only associate with an alternate tune for Come, Thou Long Expected Jesus, but only after HYFRYDOL or JEFFERSON (although I do admit that isn't a very TEC sentiment, them using STUTTGART).
That's new - I've heard of lots of hated hymn tunes but the only thing I could have against Woodlands is it being unison.
Huh.
FatherInCharge often inflicts a version of the Lord's Prayer, droned to Kumbaya, on his poor little band of faithful. Dear Lord and Father is also a favourite, which personally I quite like, but, again, it can be overused.
(Though the First Night of the Proms Beethoven 5 was remarkably 'fresh' - we loved it).
It's that drop at the end when the tune naturally wants to keep rising. I think its really ugly and difficult to sing without swooping down.
I sometimes privately parody the way it overemphasizes the word "voice" in the hymn's second line. "Unnum...bered...blessings give my spee...rit... VOICE!" and yet again I startle the cats.
The first of these included even more Alleluias than usual!
Was Mr Bean there, failing to stop singing them?
No, I didn't see him...
(Perfectly true: we had two funerals for members of the Atkinson family, one an uncle of Rowan and one a cousin).
I have no doubt he behaved himself in a seemly manner on both occasions...
Assumption-tide tomorrow at Our Place, and AFAIK the following hymns will be sung:
Ye who own the faith of Jesus (first 4 verses - Daily, daily)
Something from the Sheet*
Tell out, my soul (Woodlands - hymn suggested by Me, and gladly adopted by FatherInCharge in memory of +Timothy)
Ye who own the faith of Jesus (the remainder - Daily, daily)
*this may be Thomas Ken's Her virgin eyes saw God incarnate born (Farley Castle), which isn't in our default hymnbook. Here's verse 4:
Heaven with transcendent joys her entrance graced,
near to his throne her Son his Mother placed;
and here below, now she's of heaven possest,
all generations are to call her blest.
Possibly a rather radical sentiment for a 17thC Anglican cleric!
Put peace into each other's hands
During communion:
Let us break bread together with the Lord
Father we love You, we worship and adore You
Tell out my soul
I was playing this morning and was congratulated on managing to find songs fitting the 'bread of life' theme for the fourth week running. And without touching 'I am the bread of life' which I really dislike!
Can we sing about something other than bread next week please, lectionary devisers?!
“Glorious things of thee are spoken” - Austria.
“I will enter his gates with thanksgiving in my heart”.
“How lovely is thy dwelling-place”- Harington/Retirement.
“Here within this house of prayer” (unknown, but relevant to theme
and in memory of Timothy Dudley-Smith) - Heathlands.
“God is in his temple” - Groningen.
The *Something from the Sheet* was a Marian hymn, sung to the tune (by W H Doane) usually associated with Fanny Crosby's To God be the glory...my Spy couldn't recall the words (being busy with incense etc. as this was the Offertory Hymn), but reckoned that Fanny Crosby would probably have disapproved...
An excellent turnout, despite many Regulars being at Away.
Be thou my vision - Slane
Jesus is King- Gwendy Churchill
When morning gilds the skies- Laudes Domini
Bread of heaven - B o h
O God beyond all praising- Thaxted
Piano accompaniment so no sung Mass
Evensong list
Angel voices - Gerontius
When morning gilds-really??
Let all the world -Luckingham
Alleluia sing to Jesus -Hyfrydol
Introit- O taste and see - RVW
Anthem- Jesu joy of man’s desiring- JSB
Awake my soul, and with the sun - Morning Hymn
God forgave my sin - Freely, freely
Angel voices, ever singing - Angel Voices
Be still and know - Bread of Heaven
All over the world - All Over the World
* I'll leave it to you to work out which ones would have been which ...
Mind you, that's probably true for many of our music choices (well, I think we're more 80s/90s)!
Taste and See
My God, Thy Table Now is Spread (ROCKINGHAM)
Today, we had:
“The Lord Is God” (paraphrase of the Shema)/AZMON
“When God Restored Our Common Life” (Ps. 126 paraphrase)/RESIGNATION
“Go, My Children, with My Blessing”/AR HYD Y NOS
"Solemn Sung Eucharist"
Ye who own the faith of Jesus (Daily Daily)
Tell out my soul (Woodlands)
Lights abode celestial Salem (Regent Square)
Her virgin eyes saw God incarnate born (Ellers)
Ye watchers and ye holy ones
"Solemn Evensong and Devotioms"
Hail O star that pointest (Ave maris stella)
Virgin born we bow before thee (Quem pastores)
Ave Maria blessed maid (St Alban)
O saving victim opening wide (Old 100th)
Therefore we before him bending (Westminster Abbey)
Psalm 117
All rsther up the candle for me especially the Devotions part but the people clearly enjoyed it and the singing was good.
“God Is Here”/ABBOT’S LEIGH
“Will You Come and Follow Me”/KELVINGROVE
There was a third hymn, sung to SLANE, with text by the ordinand.
Hymns
When morning gilds the skies, / Laudes Domini
Eat this bread, / Eat this bread (Taizé)
I will sing the wondrous story, / Hyfrydol
Mine eyes have seen the glory, / Battle Hymn
Choir
O taste and see, / R. Vaughan Williams
Ave verum corpus, / Camille Saint-Saëns
To God be the glory (TO GOD BE THE GLORY)
Give me oil in my lamp (SING HOSANNA)
Guide me, O thou great Jehovah (CWM RHONDDA)
How deep the Father’s love for us (HOW DEEP THE FATHER'S LOVE FOR US)
Great is thy faithfulness (FAITHFULNESS (Runyan))
I will sing the wondrous story (HYFRYDOL)
The day thou gavest (ST. CLEMENT (Scholefield))
A bright and breezy evening, with a threat of rain that happily didn’t materialise.
Good!
Christ Triumphant, Ever Reigning - GUITING POWER
Amazing Grace - NEW BRITAIN
There is a Higher Throne - Keith & Krystin Getty
Sing glory to God - Ash Grove Gloria*
Fight the good fight - Duke Street
Oft in danger, oft in woe - Innocents
O perfect love - O Perfect Love**
O worship the Lord in the beauty of holiness
* what's the point, when we'll be singing the Gloria in a couple of minutes anyway? It's even placed with the other assorted settings of bits of the Mass at the back of the hymn book ...
** If she'd looked at the words, she might have realised that the only occasion for which this is suitable is a wedding. <rolleyes>
I’ve no illusions about what hard and thankless work it is choosing hymns.
I might ask her about SBS, and offer to meet her for coffee and a chat; she has asked my opinion on musical matters before so I don't think I'd be stepping out of line.
Firmly I believe and truly (Shipston)
Sweet Sacrament divine (Divine Mysteries)
Let all the world in every corner sing (Luckington)
When a knight won his spurs (Stowey)
The final hymn had been requested by one of the faithful, presumably remembering his/her schooldays...although FatherInCharge reckoned it fitted in with the readings (!), and was suggested by the index of hymns for Sundays at the back of our default hymnbook (Complete Anglican Hymns Old and New).
Is that the book Your Place uses, @Piglet ?