What did you sing at church today?

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  • Often sung to "Come, Thou Fount of every blessing" which does include the line (unintentionally humorous to my mind for some reason, though thoroughly Biblical) "Here I raise my Ebenezer".

    I prefer "Nettleton" to these words (other tunes, such as the boring "Corinth", are also available).
  • Here's what we had over the weekend:

    11/01/24 All Saints Day Eve
    Ye watchers and ye holy ones (vss.1-3)
    For all the saints
    Who are these like stars appearing
    Ye watchers and ye holy ones (vs.4)

    11/03/24 31st Sunday in OT
    Come down, O love divine (vss.1-3)
    Love divine, all loves excelling
    My song is love unknown
    Come down, O love divine (vs.4)

    I particularly enjoy, "My song is Love unknown." Need to schedule that one more often.
  • Often sung to "Come, Thou Fount of every blessing" which does include the line (unintentionally humorous to my mind for some reason, though thoroughly Biblical) "Here I raise my Ebenezer".

    I prefer "Nettleton" to these words (other tunes, such as the boring "Corinth", are also available).
    “Come, Thou Fount of Every Blessing” is always NETTLETON on this side of The Pond, at least in my experience. That text and that tune are firmly linked here.



  • ClimacusClimacus Shipmate
    edited November 2024
    Are there any Orthodox in a Slavonic tradition that read this? I keep forgetting to ask at church.

    In the Greek/Antiochian churches I've been to, Sunday Matins has the (beautiful to me, may be my favourite outside the Paschal hymns) Evlogitaria of the Resurrection. I may miss it in the Russian church I'm currently at, but it doesn't appear to be sung where I'm expecting it at least (I admit, given my Slavonic is so minimal to be non-existent I may just not be noticing, and I know it would not be the same chant style...). Is it sung in Slavonic traditions?
  • Nick Tamen wrote: »
    Often sung to "Come, Thou Fount of every blessing" which does include the line (unintentionally humorous to my mind for some reason, though thoroughly Biblical) "Here I raise my Ebenezer".

    I prefer "Nettleton" to these words (other tunes, such as the boring "Corinth", are also available).
    “Come, Thou Fount of Every Blessing” is always NETTLETON on this side of The Pond, at least in my experience. That text and that tune are firmly linked here.



    I've never heard it to any other, except in some videos of Sacred Harp where they will sometimes evidently sing it to RESTORATION complete with the "ten thousand charms" refrain.
  • Ex_OrganistEx_Organist Shipmate
    edited November 2024
    Climacus wrote: »
    Are there any Orthodox in a Slavonic tradition that read this? I keep forgetting to ask at church.

    In the Greek/Antiochian churches I've been to, Sunday Matins has the (beautiful to me, may be my favourite outside the Paschal hymns) Evlogitaria of the Resurrection. I may miss it in the Russian church I'm currently at, but it doesn't appear to be sung where I'm expecting it at least (I admit, given my Slavonic is so minimal to be non-existent I may just not be noticing, and I know it would not be the same chant style...). Is it sung in Slavonic traditions?

    For most of my time in the Orthodox Church I have worshipped in churches of Russian liturgical and musical tradition. Mostly in Slavonic from 1966 until 1998. Since then mostly in English.

    The answer to your question about the Evlogitaria of the Resurrection is that these are an integral part of Sunday Matins (when that is used - not on my current church). They are usually sung to a simple Tone 5 chant, so they would not stand out musically. In many Russian tradition churches Matins is joined to Vespers on Saturday evening to make the so-called "All-night Vigil". At Matins the Evlogitaria follow the Polyeleos, which Greek tradition does not use on Sundays.
  • Trinity 23, Morning Prayer

    For all the Saints
    Christ is Made our Sure Foundation
    All People that on Earth do Dwell
  • ClimacusClimacus Shipmate
    edited November 2024
    Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge, again, Ex_Organist; I appreciate it. I've only been thrice, but the simple chant (done quickly in comparison to my mind, not rushed, just quicker...) you mentioned I think I can identify now.

    The parish website has a note on its "All-night Vigil", when served, commenting (reassuring? 🙂) it now usually lasts 2 hours.
  • Climacus wrote: »
    Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge, again, Ex_Organist; I appreciate it. I've only been thrice, but the simple chant (done quickly in comparison to my mind, not rushed, just quicker...) you mentioned I think I can identify now.

    The chant that I am familiar wth can be heard here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GeulvaA6Y4 at 36:12 from the start.
  • Thank you very much.
  • All Saints Eucharist.

    Some last minute changes at the request of the pianist, there being no organist.

    For all the saints - Sine Nomine, 6 verses
    All who would valiant be
    Ye holy angels bright
    There is a Redeemer
    O when the saints go marching in
  • Nettleton is not well-known in the UK, which is a shame as it's an excellent tune, and easy to pick up.
  • The chant that I am familiar wth can be heard here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GeulvaA6Y4 at 36:12 from the start.

    Got a chance to listen to this. I will, I'm not adept at music, try and see if it is the same chant. It is a beautiful chant, I'm still getting accustomed to the Russian tones.

    Is that the usual text in the Russian tradition? If so, I see where I thought it went quickly -- the Antiochians, or at least my former parish, have a longer text. (I've noticed a few differences like Psalm 103 not being read at Vespers but a chant "summary"? in my new parish, as an example. It is good to be exposed to different traditions.)
  • Ex_OrganistEx_Organist Shipmate
    edited November 2024
    Climacus wrote: »

    Is that the usual text in the Russian tradition? If so, I see where I thought it went quickly -- the Antiochians, or at least my former parish, have a longer text. (I've noticed a few differences like Psalm 103 not being read at Vespers but a chant "summary"? in my new parish, as an example. It is good to be exposed to different traditions.)

    Russians, particularly at "All-Night Vigil", make a lot of abbreviations. That may incude the number of verses of the Evlogitaria that are sung. (From memory of singing at Slavonic Vigil services there were usually only four or five verses sung)

    The opening Psalm at Vespers is another instance of this. At Vigil this is reduced to selected verses with refrains. Similarly the First Kathisma.

    To some extent this has historic precedent in the ancient "Cathedral" rite (where the Psalms verses were declaimed by a solo cantor with a sung refrain after each verse), as distinct from the "Monsatic" rite. There are several variations around this. In current Greek monastic tradition, at an all-night vigil the first part of the opening Psalm is read, with the second part being sung elaborately with refrains.

    In our church, where we just do Vespers on Saturday evenings, we read the opening Psalm but sing the abbreviated First Kathisma (two verses from each of the three Psalms of the First Stasis, with refrain "Alleluia").

    Fixed coding - Nenya, Ecclesiantics Host
  • Thank you, as always, for the sharing of your extensive knowledge.
  • Nettleton is not well-known in the UK, which is a shame as it's an excellent tune, and easy to pick up.

    Not well known? I can't remember a time when I didn't know it! (But I guess I'm just a sample size of one)
  • I didn't know it until "Baptist Praise and Worship" came out, and I've never come across it outside a Baptist or URC setting. YMMV of course!
  • JapesJapes Shipmate
    Nettleton is one of those tunes I think I don't know, can't sing it if asked how it goes until I get the music, then realise it's somewhere deep in the depths of my memory. Quite how it got there, is a bit of a mystery...
  • ClimacusClimacus Shipmate
    edited November 2024
    Wrong thread, sorry.
  • Bishops FingerBishops Finger Shipmate
    edited November 2024
    Remembrance Sunday tomorrow at Our Place, and the hymns on parade are some of what might be termed The Usual Suspects:

    Dear Lord and Father of mankind (Repton)
    O God, our help in ages past (St Anne)
    Peace, perfect peace, is the gift of Christ our Lord (words and music by Kevin Mayhew)
    God save our gracious King (National Anthem)
    Eternal Father, strong to save (Melita)

    No organist available, it seems, so one of the PCC (a music teacher) will play the piano, which is a rather fine concert grand.
  • ETA: I forgot I was posting on Friday...we are, of course, observing Remembrance Sunday tomorrow.
  • Remembrance tomorrow.
    Silence at the start, Abide with Me at the end, otherwise the normal Sunday readings and hymns etc.
  • Remembrance tomorrow.

    “Behold! the mountain of the Lord” (Glasgow).
    “Longing for light” (Christ be our light").
    “We lay our broken world” (Venice).
    “O God of every nation” (Llangloffan).
    “Lord of the years” (its own tune).
  • Wot? No National Dirge?
    :naughty:
  • Oh, you mean "Hen Wlad Fy Nhadau"?

    No. And, considering we now have a sizeable number of non-Brits (although all, I think, from Commonwealth nations) in our congregation, it wouldn't be appropriate.
  • Wot? No National Dirge?
    :naughty:

    No. We are Catholics. We have had no King since James III died in Rome in 1766.
  • Come to think of it, a good half of Our Place's congregation may, on some Sundays, be from the Philippines and/or India. The contingent of Poles we used to have left after Brexit.

    However, FatherInCharge is an ardent Royalist, and insists on including the National Dirge in as many services as possible...quite how many of those present actually sing it is another matter.
  • Of course, as we are a Baptist church (not that we generally think of ourselves as such!), we are not Established.

    But neither is the Church in Wales ...
  • True.

    We are Established, so I suppose it's inevitable that due homage is paid at various times to our Supreme Governor. That said, there's no Rule (AFAIK) that says the National Dirge has to be sung in the course of a service...
  • DardaDarda Shipmate
    As the town's war memorial is situated in the road outside Our Place (C of E), we hosted a uniform groups parade, with wreath laying, reading the roll of honour, Last Post, two minutes silence and Reveille. A good attendance this year, and some then chose to enter church for the service which followed (uniformed groups had no choice, of course!) where we sang the following:
    O God, Our Help in Ages Past - ST ANNE
    Amazing Grace - NEW BRITAIN
    The Lord's My Shepherd - Townend version
    Praise, My Soul, the King of Heaven - LAUDA ANIMA
    The National Anthem
  • Remembrance service ( Parade with uniformed youth groups. )
    Eternal Father, strong to save( with very different words)
    Make me a channel of your peace
    I vow to thee my country
    National Anthem.

  • I vow to thee, my country ?

    O dear.
    :disappointed:
  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    We didn't entreat the Almighty to save the King either (a fact that surprised me somewhat, as many of our congregation are quite royalist).

    The beginning of the Gospel was accompanied (unintentionally) by the band going past outside the church on its way to the civic memorial.

    We had pretty much all the usual suspects for Remembrance Sunday, plus readings of Dulce et decorum est and similar, with the Barber Adagio shimmering in the background.

    O God, our help in ages past - St Anne*
    Eternal Father, strong to save - Melita
    Be still, my soul - Finlandia
    God, as with silent hearts we bring to mind - The Supreme Sacrifice
    I vow to thee, my country - Thaxted

    * from which we omitted two verses, which I thought was rather a shame. Sadly, processional hymns often get cut at St Pete's; because it's such a small building, it only takes a couple of verses for the crucifer and priest to get down one aisle and up the middle. :(

    BT, you're leading me into the deadly sin of envy by having "Glasgow" for Behold the mountain ... :mrgreen:
  • Parade service with scouts and guides laying wreaths at the war memorial inside the church.
    O God our help in ages past
    Make me a channel of your peace
    Jerusalem
    National anthem
    (As last year, the news sheet given out contained details of services in December so the "festival church-goers" who came today have details should they feel inclined to attend over the Christmas period)
  • Interesting point re December services @Wanderer. Yes, a good idea to do some advance publicity - I'd suggest it for Our Place, except that we don't get any extra people on Remembrance Sunday! With no organist available today, Madam Sacristan on Guide leader duty elsewhere, and our only other server/thurifer playing the piano, we may well have had to do without incense today...

    Still, you've reminded me to ask FatherInCharge for dates of what he insists on calling *Christmass* services, so that I can put them on our website (over which I have sole control :naughty: ).
  • NenyaNenya All Saints Host, Ecclesiantics & MW Host
    What a gift of grace is Jesus my redeemer
    When peace like a river (It is well with my soul)
    Father, we love you (Jesus we love you, Spirit we love you)
    There is a redeemer

    One of the Ukrainian members of the congregation was invited up to speak about what it meant to live in, and have to leave, a war zone; he prayed in Ukrainian for peace, which was moving. We also observed the two minute silence.
  • Yes @Bishops Finger we are fortunate that the uniformed organisations do engage with our church -probably helped by the fact that the churchwarden has been leader of the local cubs for decades (she was when master Wanderer the elder was a cub and he's 27 now!).
    Our usual Sunday congregation numbers 30-50 but on festival occasions we can have up to 200 which fills the church to capacity. It was standing room only this morning.
    Our music this morning was enhanced by the university choir joining us. We had the Last Post, minute's silence followed by Reveille. There was a toddler near me being held my his mother: during the Last Post he was clearly appreciating the music as he was giggling in that happy way that toddlers have when they enjoy something. During the minute's silence he said:"can they do it again?" His mother then took him out and they didn't come back - I felt that was a shame - I know his giggling didn't exactly fit with the sombre mood of the service but he was engaging with it in his own way.
  • BroJamesBroJames Purgatory Host
    Puzzler wrote: »
    <snip>Eternal Father, strong to save( with very different words)<snip>
    Was it the three services version from this page (scroll down)?
  • Piglet wrote: »
    BT, you're leading me into the deadly sin of envy by having "Glasgow" for Behold the mountain ... :mrgreen:
    And we did all seven verses (partly to cover the arrival of latecomers, since we started at 10.45 rather than 11). I don't think our church knew it before I came! We did have a hymn to a Welsh tune as well.
  • Piglet wrote: »
    The beginning of the Gospel was accompanied (unintentionally) by the band going past outside the church on its way to the civic memorial.
    As a friend of mine would say, there’s a sermon in there somewhere.
    Today (32nd Sunday in Ordinary Time/25th Sunday after Pentecost, Remembrance Sunday not being A Thing here), we sang:

    “Spirit, Open My Heart”/WILD MOUNTAIN THYME
    Ubi Caritas et Amor (Taizé, Berthier)
    “Come and Seek the Ways of Wisdom/MADELEINE
    “We Lift Our Voices” (“We Are an Offering”)/OFFERING
    “Let Us Build a House” (“All Are Welcome”)/TWO OAKS
    I mentioned in the “Mental Health Survival Strategies” thread that at the end of choir rehearsal Thursday night, our choir director gave a little time for people just to talk about the previous few days, if they wanted to. Then she pulled out an anthem we’d sung a year+ ago: Elaine Hagenberg’s “You Do Not Walk Alone.” We stood in a circle to sing it, so that we were essentially singing to each other.
    May you see God’s light on the path ahead
    when the road you walk is dark.
    May you always hear
    even in your hour of sorrow
    the gentle singing of the lark.
    When times are hard
    may hardness never turn your heart to stone.
    May you always remember when the shadows fall—
    You do not walk alone.
    After we were done, the decision was made to scrap the planned postlude on Sunday and sing this instead. When it came to it today, I think a number of us found the going harder than expected, but the congregation seemed to appreciate it.


  • Pentecost XXV:

    God of Grace and God of Glory (CWM RHONDDA)
    Take My Life and Let it Be (HOLLINGSIDE)
    This Little Light of Mine
    Lord Make us Servants of Your Peace (DICKINSON COLLEGE)
  • Normal service with For the Fallen, a minute's silence and Last Post tacked on the end (finished at 10am-ish, so an early remembrance).

    God has spoken - by his prophets (Ebenezer)
    I will sing the wonderous story (Hyfrydol)
    O Breath Of Life, Come Sweeping Through Us (don't know the tune name - sorry)
  • NenyaNenya All Saints Host, Ecclesiantics & MW Host
    I was wondering how that went @Nick Tamen ; hard to do but I'm sure it was greatly appreciated.
  • Hope those words were of comfort to those in need, Nick.

    Not sung, but we had the bishop visit. During the repetition of the Trisagion Hymn* he says these words I find comforting and which are only said by him when presiding:
    "Look down from Heaven, O Lord, and behold and visit this vineyard, which has been planted by Thy right hand, and establish it."
    (online version I found; translations differ between churches...)


    * Holy God, Holy Mighty, Holy Immortal, have mercy on us.
  • BroJames wrote: »
    Puzzler wrote: »
    <snip>Eternal Father, strong to save( with very different words)<snip>
    Was it the three services version from this page (scroll down)?

    No, but something similar in that there were verses dedicated to each of the three services, so five verses in all, but in more modern idiom, and I don’t mean You instead of Thou ( that was a mixture).
    Eg our soldiers guard our way of life:……
    Let courage flow from your command;
    We pray for those who fight on land.

    Eternal Father, grant we pray
    To all Marines, both night and day
    The courage, honour, strength and skill
    Their land to serve, thy law fulfil;
    Be thou their shield for evermore
    From every peril to the Corps.

    Lord guard and guide all those who fly
    Through the great spaces in the sky
    Be with them always in the air
    In darkening storms or sunlight fair:
    Oh hear us when we lift our prayer
    For those in peril in the air.

    It strikes me that more than one author may have been involved, but there was no acknowledgement.
  • BroJames wrote: »
    Puzzler wrote: »
    <snip>Eternal Father, strong to save( with very different words)<snip>
    Was it the three services version from this page (scroll down)?

    I know I’m an ex-naval officer but I’d feel *very* short changed with that or similar. It’s a wonderful hymn that doesn’t need diluting by people ‘having a go’ at writing other words, IMO
  • Pentecost 25 Holy Baptism and Solemn High Mass

    Not here for high and holy things (Morning Song)
    God himself is with us (Tysk)
    Lord, enthroned in heavenly splendor (St. Osmund)
    Come, thou fount of every blessing (Nettleton)

    Choral:
    Liszt: Missa Choralis
    Nielsen: Dominus regit me (1929)
  • Oblatus wrote: »
    Lord, enthroned in heavenly splendor (St. Osmund)
    New to me; thank you.

  • Mattins (shortened) for Remembrance Sunday

    Act and silence in churchyard at the memorial then all processed into church singing "Praise my soul the King of heaven".

    O God our help (St Anne) replaced the Venite
    Psalm 46
    Te Deum
    (no second lesson or canticle)
    Rejoice O land in God thy might (Wareham)
    O Lord of life whose power sustains (Melita)
    O valiant hearts (Supreme Sacrifice)
    God save the King

    Evensong for Trinity 24

    O strength and stay (Welwyn)
    Through all the changing scenes (Wiltshire)
    Fight the good fight (Pentecost)
    The day thou gavest (St Clement)
  • The_RivThe_Riv Shipmate
    edited November 2024
    Our slate today was:

    --All people that on earth do dwell (OLD HUNDREDTH vss.1-3)
    --My Shepherd will supply my need (RESIGNATION)
    --Jesus the very thought of thee (ST. BERNARD)
    --All people that on earth do dwell (OLD HUNDREDTH vss.4-5)

    Mass parts from "Missa Simplex"

    Responsorial Psalm and Gospel Acclamation from "Respond & Acclaim"
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