Lent 3 tomorrow (is that halfway, or does Lent 4 count?):
There are to be three Emanations from The Sheet - two hymns, and a metrical Lord's Prayer (hopefully not the Cliff Richard version ), but these are the Entrance Hymn, and the hymn during and immediately after Communion:
Sing we of the blessed Mother (Abbot's Leigh) Virgin-born, we bow before thee (Quem Pastores)
I haven't checked the readings, but I guess they have to do with Mary...and the usual Gospel for Mothering Sunday (next week) is Mary at the Foot of the Cross.
In addition, Tuesday 25th is the Feast of the Annunciation, which will be observed at our 530pm Mass. Quite a lot of Marian Stuff, it seems, but FatherInCharge is keen on it, with little or no excuse needed!
We have two adults joining the church at Easter, one is being baptised, the other being confirmed. So we have special readings and prayers for the next three weeks as a part of their journey. They are the Woman at the Well, the Man Born Blind and the Raising of Lazarus.
Tomorrow's music involves
Come back to me
O God you search me and you know me
In the land there is a hunger.
Lent 3 tomorrow (is that halfway, or does Lent 4 count?):
I think Lent 4/Laetare Sunday/Refreshment Sunday/Mothering Sunday, which is just past the halfway point, is usually considered the “mid-way” Sunday in Lent.
Lent 3 tomorrow (is that halfway, or does Lent 4 count?):
I think Lent 4/Laetare Sunday/Refreshment Sunday/Mothering Sunday, which is just past the halfway point, is usually considered the “mid-way” Sunday in Lent.
Lent 3 tomorrow (is that halfway, or does Lent 4 count?):
I think Lent 4/Laetare Sunday/Refreshment Sunday/Mothering Sunday, which is just past the halfway point, is usually considered the “mid-way” Sunday in Lent.
We Orthodox celebrate the mid-point next Wednesday.
I haven't checked the readings, but I guess they have to do with Mary...and the usual Gospel for Mothering Sunday (next week) is Mary at the Foot of the Cross.
I'm reading the lessons at St Pete's tomorrow, and they're from Isaiah 55 and 1 Corinthians 10.
I sang Evensong in Helensburgh today with Scottish Voices, at which our offerings were:
Introit - Sicut cervus - Palestrina
Preces & Responses - Ebdon
Psalm 108 - chants by Randall and Cooper
Mag & Nunc - Joanna Forbes L'Estrange
Anthem - Like as the hart - Howells
Hymns:
O for a closer walk with God - Caithness All my hope on God is founded - Michael
It was most excellent, and appreciated by the conductor.
Choir:
Remember your word, / Petrich
Turn thy face from my sins, / Attwood
Hymns:
Lord Jesus Christ, / Living Lord
Seek O seek the Lord, / Venantius
Dear Father, Lord of humankind (sic). / Repton
God gives us a future, / Camberwell
I haven't checked the readings, but I guess they have to do with Mary...and the usual Gospel for Mothering Sunday (next week) is Mary at the Foot of the Cross.
I'm reading the lessons at St Pete's tomorrow, and they're from Isaiah 55 and 1 Corinthians 10.
I sang Evensong in Helensburgh today with Scottish Voices, at which our offerings were:
Introit - Sicut cervus - Palestrina
Preces & Responses - Ebdon
Psalm 108 - chants by Randall and Cooper
Mag & Nunc - Joanna Forbes L'Estrange
Anthem - Like as the hart - Howells
Hymns:
O for a closer walk with God - Caithness All my hope on God is founded - Michael
It was most excellent, and appreciated by the conductor.
Like as the hart is high on my list of Desert Island Discs. The chord on "desireth" is enough to make a maiden aunt blush!
At the name of Jesus - Evelyns* Jesus, name above all names - Jesus, Name Above all Names Rock of ages - Toplady ** O Lord, hear my prayer - Taize*** The Church's one foundation - Aurelia
* the Wrong Tune (and was in far too high a key) - should be Kings Weston
** also the Wrong Tune - should be Redhead No 76
*** not bad as these things go, but also played in too high a key
Mass setting: Sumsion in F
Anthem: Palestrina Sicut Cervus (snap!)
Hymns:
In the cross of Christ I glory (Cross of Jesus)
O for a closer walk with God (Caithness)
We love the place O God (Quam Delicta)
Jesu lover of my soul (Aberystwyth)
The senior organ scholar played before and after from Boellmann's Suite Gothique (Priere a Notre Dame / Toccata)
I love the bassline to Aberystwyth...and the faster the better!
At the name of Jesus - Evelyns* Jesus, name above all names - Jesus, Name Above all Names Rock of ages - Toplady ** O Lord, hear my prayer - Taize*** The Church's one foundation - Aurelia
* the Wrong Tune (and was in far too high a key) - should be Kings Weston
** also the Wrong Tune - should be Redhead No 76
*** not bad as these things go, but also played in too high a key
Well, I prefer Evelyns for At the name of Jesus, though Camberwell is also Good - but, alas! King's Weston isn't in the Orange Book.
As for Rock of Ages, Petra/Redhead No.76 is the tune I always associate with this hymn, though Toplady is, again, Good.
ISTM that it's impossible to please everyone all the time, but you've mentioned in All Saints that the hymns today had been unrehearsed. Having them played in too a high a key doesn't help.
As for Aurelia, the opening bars of that dirge would have seen me heading for the door.
BTW, there are probably a few hymns - like Rock of Ages, or When I survey the wondrous cross - which are sung more than once during Lent and Holy Week. In this case, using an alternative tune is IMHO a Good Thing.
I tend to agree, although "Deep Harmony" is IMO pretty good.
I like O WALY WALY.
We had:
The church's one foundation (AURELIA)
Rock of ages (PETRA (REDHEAD))
As the deer pants for the water
Do not be afraid
Take my life, Lord, let it be
Mind you, parts of the Church of Sweden were observing The Annunciation today (only a couple of days early), with white vestments, and Skara Cathedral even had an A-word Gospel Acclamation!! That said, presumably next Sunday will simply be Lent 4, as they won't have all the faux-mediaeval *Mothering Sunday* stuff to put up with...
Just a tangent about "When I survey" which I have only heard or had to play to "Rockingham" but recall "Deep Harmony" onee for it at a chapel funeral. Agree with @Baptist Trainfan that it is a good tune and better the one bellowed out by Cornish (andWelsh too maybe?) male voice choirs called "Morte Christe" which is something of a 'village shout' and highly unsuitable for the words imho. Others may differ ...
So today for Lent 3 I got saddled with -
Parish Communion
Jesus the sun of ransomed earth (Herongate)
Plainsong Acclamation
Father and life giver (Princethorpe)
Oh the love of my Lord is the essence
O Jesus I have promised (Wolvercote)
Evensong
My faith looks up to thee (Olivet)
In the Cross of Christ I glory (Wychbold)
I will sing the wondrous story (Calon Lan)
Decent singing today in both places. The first hymn this morning is from the RC breviary I was told and the second one was sung to a tune I associate with a Methodist hymn called "Earth below is teeming" which I have played a couple of times.
"O worship the King" - Hanover.
"I have decided to follow Jesus".
"When, O God, our faith is tested" - All Saints.
“Though hope desert my heart” - Southwell (Damon).
“Alleluia! sing to Jesus!” - Hyfrydol.
FWIW, I agree with Alan about "Rockingham" - I don't think I've ever sung WISTWC to anything else.
HAMBURG. Always HAMBURG in my tribe. Anything else just seems wrong. Episcopalians are the only folk I’ve encountered in the States who use ROCKINGHAM.
And I’ll admit that I never thought ROCKINGHAM quote matches the mood of the text of WISTWC.
We had a baptism (adult) today. The hymns were:
“Every Time I Feel the Spirit”/PENTECOST
“The Lord Is My Song” (Taizé, Berthier)
A baptismal hymn by a hum writer in the congregation
“Spirit, Spirit of Gentleness” (“Spirit”)/SPIRIT
And I’ve realized that I never posted about last Sunday, which was a musical treat, but which deserves more than just a list. I’ll get to it in the next day or so.
Lent 3, but not my usual church.
No list, so I am struggling to remember the first one. What I do recall is that, like many hymns, the range was too high for most, too low for me.
Jerusalem the golden - Ewing
We sing the praise of him who died - Bow Brickhill
Praise the Lord, ye heavens adore him - Aurelia
What I do recall is that, like many hymns, the range was too high for most, too low for me.
We have a server who doesn't have a note in his head. He always moans that hymns are pitched precisely at the part of his voice where they are either too high or too low, and tries to make me feel it is my fault! He exercises my christian charity almost to breaking point.
He should try going to church in France where most things seem to pitched higher than we are used to in the UK (and where composers have developed the knack of just avoiding composing a memorable tune.)
I adore Morte Criste but it’s got to be done by a top class Welsh male voice choir with an organist who extracts every bit of sentimentality from the twiddly bit before the last verse. Not so easy for a congregation to sing.
FWIW, I agree with Alan about "Rockingham" - I don't think I've ever sung WISTWC to anything else.
HAMBURG. Always HAMBURG in my tribe. Anything else just seems wrong. Episcopalians are the only folk I’ve encountered in the States who use ROCKINGHAM.
And I’ll admit that I never thought ROCKINGHAM quote matches the mood of the text of WISTWC.
Yes, it was a switch I had to get used to when I became a 'Murican 'Piskie. I've grown to like Rockingham as a tune, but I still think Hamburg is maybe a little bit more appropriate. I have similar feelings on the situation to with On Jordan's Bank.
Anyway, I'm a little bit late, but here were our offerings:
Praise to the Living God (LEONI)
If Thou But Trust in God to Guide Thee (WER NUR DEN LEIBEN)
Close to Thee (CLOSE TO THEE)
The Glory Of These Forty Days (ERHALT UNS HERR)
Lent 3, but not my usual church.
No list, so I am struggling to remember the first one. What I do recall is that, like many hymns, the range was too high for most, too low for me.
Jerusalem the golden - Ewing
We sing the praise of him who died - Bow Brickhill
Praise the Lord, ye heavens adore him - Aurelia
That last hymn is usually sung to Austria, I think...
I don't know many hymn tunes but was intrigued by piglet's offering of WER NUR DEN LEIBEN It absolutely has to be LIEBEN
Wer nur den lieben Gott laesst walten Whoever lets the good Lord guide him
Und hoffet auf Ihn allezeit And hopes in him always.
By the way, my father’s funeral will be during Lent, and will feature the Russian kontakion for the departed. So at least three alleluias!
My condolence. I think everyone would acknowledge an exception for "even at the grave we make our song..."
Oh, I don’t know. A few years ago I reported that “Jesus Christ Is Risen Today,” which of course has Alleluias at the end of every line, was sung a funeral in an (American) Episcopal church during Lent, and I recall at least one or two scandalized and disapproving responses.
Given that the funeral liturgy for a Christian could well have a strong Easter flavour, any well-known Easter hymn seems entirely appropriate, even in Lent.
Given that the funeral liturgy for a Christian could well have a strong Easter flavour, any well-known Easter hymn seems entirely appropriate, even in Lent.
Indeed. And as I said, this was in an American Episcopal church, whose Book of Common Prayer explicitly says:
The liturgy for the dead is an Easter liturgy. It finds all its meaning in the resurrection. Because Jesus was raised from the dead, we, too, shall be raised.
The liturgy, therefore, is characterized by joy, in the certainty that “neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor things present, nor things to come, nor powers, nor height, nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord.”
This joy, however, does not make human grief unchristian. The very love we have for each other in Christ brings deep sorrow when we are parted by death. Jesus himself wept at the grave of his friend. So, while we rejoice that one we love has entered into the nearer presence of our Lord, we sorrow in sympathy with those who mourn.
(p. 507)
I note, too, that the burial liturgy includes a number of Alleluias, not only at the text of the Russian kontakion, but like this at the dismissal:
Alleluia. Christ is risen. The Lord is risen indeed. Alleluia.
Let us go forth in the name of Christ. Thanks be to God.
Unlike the liturgies for the Holy Eucharist or Daily Prayer, there is no “omitted in Lent” bracketing for the Alleluias.
Indeed. Our place is not at all high but there will be a real mix of churchmanship at the funeral (93-year-old vicar so a wide range of clergy attending). He will have placed beside the coffin a rosary and an icon which were very personal to him, along with a Bible presented to him at his priesting, and a beautiful white stole which will then be used by the church at Easter.
Indeed. Our place is not at all high but there will be a real mix of churchmanship at the funeral (93-year-old vicar so a wide range of clergy attending). He will have placed beside the coffin a rosary and an icon which were very personal to him, along with a Bible presented to him at his priesting, and a beautiful white stole which will then be used by the church at Easter.
Lent 3, but not my usual church.
No list, so I am struggling to remember the first one. What I do recall is that, like many hymns, the range was too high for most, too low for me.
Jerusalem the golden - Ewing
We sing the praise of him who died - Bow Brickhill
Praise the Lord, ye heavens adore him - Aurelia
That last hymn is usually sung to Austria, I think...
Lent 3, but not my usual church.
No list, so I am struggling to remember the first one. What I do recall is that, like many hymns, the range was too high for most, too low for me.
Jerusalem the golden - Ewing
We sing the praise of him who died - Bow Brickhill
Praise the Lord, ye heavens adore him - Aurelia
That last hymn is usually sung to Austria, I think...
Sing we of the blessed Mother (Abbot's Leigh) Virgin-born, we bow before thee (Quem Pastores)
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Those two were not sung at Our Place on Lent 3 - I was given The Wrong Information - but are probably on the list for Mothering Sunday. I daresay FatherInCharge's favourite Onward, Christian families will be one of the Sheet items...
My Spy tells me that some of the offerings last Sunday were:
O for a heart to praise my God (Stockton) The Lent Prose (traditional tune - sung by cantor and congregation) Rock of Ages (Petra/Redhead No 76)
She says that there will probably be a hymn or two at this evening's Mass, as it's the Feast of the Annunciation, and at least some of our Walsingham Cell are likely to be present.
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There are to be three Emanations from The Sheet - two hymns, and a metrical Lord's Prayer (hopefully not the Cliff Richard version
Sing we of the blessed Mother (Abbot's Leigh)
Virgin-born, we bow before thee (Quem Pastores)
I haven't checked the readings, but I guess they have to do with Mary...and the usual Gospel for Mothering Sunday (next week) is Mary at the Foot of the Cross.
In addition, Tuesday 25th is the Feast of the Annunciation, which will be observed at our 530pm Mass. Quite a lot of Marian Stuff, it seems, but FatherInCharge is keen on it, with little or no excuse needed!
Tomorrow's music involves
Come back to me
O God you search me and you know me
In the land there is a hunger.
Yes, that sounds about right.
We Orthodox celebrate the mid-point next Wednesday.
I'm reading the lessons at St Pete's tomorrow, and they're from Isaiah 55 and 1 Corinthians 10.
I sang Evensong in Helensburgh today with Scottish Voices, at which our offerings were:
Introit - Sicut cervus - Palestrina
Preces & Responses - Ebdon
Psalm 108 - chants by Randall and Cooper
Mag & Nunc - Joanna Forbes L'Estrange
Anthem - Like as the hart - Howells
Hymns:
O for a closer walk with God - Caithness
All my hope on God is founded - Michael
It was most excellent, and appreciated by the conductor.
Choir:
Remember your word, / Petrich
Turn thy face from my sins, / Attwood
Hymns:
Lord Jesus Christ, / Living Lord
Seek O seek the Lord, / Venantius
Dear Father, Lord of humankind (sic). / Repton
God gives us a future, / Camberwell
Like as the hart is high on my list of Desert Island Discs. The chord on "desireth" is enough to make a maiden aunt blush!
Sicut Cervus
Our offerings at St Pete's today didnt ...
At the name of Jesus - Evelyns*
Jesus, name above all names - Jesus, Name Above all Names
Rock of ages - Toplady **
O Lord, hear my prayer - Taize***
The Church's one foundation - Aurelia
* the Wrong Tune (and was in far too high a key) - should be Kings Weston
** also the Wrong Tune - should be Redhead No 76
*** not bad as these things go, but also played in too high a key
Mass setting: Sumsion in F
Anthem: Palestrina Sicut Cervus (snap!)
Hymns:
In the cross of Christ I glory (Cross of Jesus)
O for a closer walk with God (Caithness)
We love the place O God (Quam Delicta)
Jesu lover of my soul (Aberystwyth)
The senior organ scholar played before and after from Boellmann's Suite Gothique (Priere a Notre Dame / Toccata)
I love the bassline to Aberystwyth...and the faster the better!
Heron
Well, I prefer Evelyns for At the name of Jesus, though Camberwell is also Good - but, alas! King's Weston isn't in the Orange Book.
As for Rock of Ages, Petra/Redhead No.76 is the tune I always associate with this hymn, though Toplady is, again, Good.
ISTM that it's impossible to please everyone all the time, but you've mentioned in All Saints that the hymns today had been unrehearsed. Having them played in too a high a key doesn't help.
As for Aurelia, the opening bars of that dirge would have seen me heading for the door.
BTW, there are probably a few hymns - like Rock of Ages, or When I survey the wondrous cross - which are sung more than once during Lent and Holy Week. In this case, using an alternative tune is IMHO a Good Thing.
There! I've said it.
Waymaker
Light of the world
What gift of grace is Jesus my redeemer
I like O WALY WALY.
We had:
The church's one foundation (AURELIA)
Rock of ages (PETRA (REDHEAD))
As the deer pants for the water
Do not be afraid
Take my life, Lord, let it be
FWIW, I agree with Alan about "Rockingham" - I don't think I've ever sung WISTWC to anything else.
I would not have wanted coffee, but something rather stronger...
I agree with @Arethosemyfeet about the tune O Waly Waly for WISTWC, but it is, I think, probably not sung anything like as much as Rockingham!
Hail to the Lord's Anointed (Crueger)
All Glory, Laud and Honour (St Theodulph)
My song is love unknown (Love Unknown)
In Christ Alone (Townend)
I know the the "w" word in the last hymn is controversial in these parts, but I thought this was a cracking Palm Sunday selection.
I'm sure you all see the problem.
Mind you, parts of the Church of Sweden were observing The Annunciation today (only a couple of days early), with white vestments, and Skara Cathedral even had an A-word Gospel Acclamation!! That said, presumably next Sunday will simply be Lent 4, as they won't have all the faux-mediaeval *Mothering Sunday* stuff to put up with...
So today for Lent 3 I got saddled with -
Parish Communion
Jesus the sun of ransomed earth (Herongate)
Plainsong Acclamation
Father and life giver (Princethorpe)
Oh the love of my Lord is the essence
O Jesus I have promised (Wolvercote)
Evensong
My faith looks up to thee (Olivet)
In the Cross of Christ I glory (Wychbold)
I will sing the wondrous story (Calon Lan)
Decent singing today in both places. The first hymn this morning is from the RC breviary I was told and the second one was sung to a tune I associate with a Methodist hymn called "Earth below is teeming" which I have played a couple of times.
We had the expensive knickers one as well today 🤣
"O worship the King" - Hanover.
"I have decided to follow Jesus".
"When, O God, our faith is tested" - All Saints.
“Though hope desert my heart” - Southwell (Damon).
“Alleluia! sing to Jesus!” - Hyfrydol.
And I’ll admit that I never thought ROCKINGHAM quote matches the mood of the text of WISTWC.
We had a baptism (adult) today. The hymns were:
“Every Time I Feel the Spirit”/PENTECOST
“The Lord Is My Song” (Taizé, Berthier)
A baptismal hymn by a hum writer in the congregation
“Spirit, Spirit of Gentleness” (“Spirit”)/SPIRIT
And I’ve realized that I never posted about last Sunday, which was a musical treat, but which deserves more than just a list. I’ll get to it in the next day or so.
The "A" word!!!
*clutches pearls*
No Alleluias in Lent!
(Although I can appreciate the contrast if they're sung on Easter Sunday after several weeks without them).
No list, so I am struggling to remember the first one. What I do recall is that, like many hymns, the range was too high for most, too low for me.
Jerusalem the golden - Ewing
We sing the praise of him who died - Bow Brickhill
Praise the Lord, ye heavens adore him - Aurelia
We have a server who doesn't have a note in his head. He always moans that hymns are pitched precisely at the part of his voice where they are either too high or too low, and tries to make me feel it is my fault! He exercises my christian charity almost to breaking point.
He should try going to church in France where most things seem to pitched higher than we are used to in the UK (and where composers have developed the knack of just avoiding composing a memorable tune.)
My condolence. I think everyone would acknowledge an exception for "even at the grave we make our song..."
Yes, it was a switch I had to get used to when I became a 'Murican 'Piskie. I've grown to like Rockingham as a tune, but I still think Hamburg is maybe a little bit more appropriate. I have similar feelings on the situation to with On Jordan's Bank.
Anyway, I'm a little bit late, but here were our offerings:
Praise to the Living God (LEONI)
If Thou But Trust in God to Guide Thee (WER NUR DEN LEIBEN)
Close to Thee (CLOSE TO THEE)
The Glory Of These Forty Days (ERHALT UNS HERR)
That last hymn is usually sung to Austria, I think...
Wer nur den lieben Gott laesst walten Whoever lets the good Lord guide him
Und hoffet auf Ihn allezeit And hopes in him always.
I note, too, that the burial liturgy includes a number of Alleluias, not only at the text of the Russian kontakion, but like this at the dismissal: Unlike the liturgies for the Holy Eucharist or Daily Prayer, there is no “omitted in Lent” bracketing for the Alleluias.
You are right of course. Not Aurelia
Thank heavens for that!
Those two were not sung at Our Place on Lent 3 - I was given The Wrong Information - but are probably on the list for Mothering Sunday. I daresay FatherInCharge's favourite Onward, Christian families will be one of the Sheet items...
My Spy tells me that some of the offerings last Sunday were:
O for a heart to praise my God (Stockton)
The Lent Prose (traditional tune - sung by cantor and congregation)
Rock of Ages (Petra/Redhead No 76)
She says that there will probably be a hymn or two at this evening's Mass, as it's the Feast of the Annunciation, and at least some of our Walsingham Cell are likely to be present.
That wasn't me - it was Recovering Cynic.