Maple Fief Forever: Canadian Politics 2025

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  • CaissaCaissa Shipmate
    Despite being a member of the NDP, my response at the moment is a big "who cares?".
  • Still way too early. There is one known insider, one wacko and the cultivated outsider has yet to emerge. Avi Lewis does not count.
  • stetsonstetson Shipmate
    one wacko

    Ah, you mean Engler?

    Yeah, he writes some interesting stuff about the more questionable aspects of Canadian foreign policy. But pronouncements like "Discussion about Turks and Caicos joining Canada constitute a continuation of our complicity in British imperialism" are a pretty desperate shoehorn.

    And, in the era of Trump, selling a pro-Russian stance to the mainstream left is a non-starter. It's pretty clear to me that Putin PREFERS having the right as his team.
  • Yes I mean Engler. He is the candidate of the so-called Socialist Caucus, by Socialist I mean Trotskyite. The SC used to be good for a laugh, now they're just annoying and sad.

    Their slap line is introducing themselves as "I'm X and I'm a a Socialist" to which the customary reply is "We have a support group for that."
  • stetsonstetson Shipmate
    Yes I mean Engler. He is the candidate of the so-called Socialist Caucus, by Socialist I mean Trotskyite. The SC used to be good for a laugh, now they're just annoying and sad.

    Their slap line is introducing themselves as "I'm X and I'm a a Socialist" to which the customary reply is "We have a support group for that."

    Is the joke that socialists need a support group, or that people who announce it as their first greeting need a support group?
  • BroJamesBroJames Purgatory Host
    I think the joke is that if you replace ‘socialist’ with ‘alcoholic’ the slap line sounds just like the beginning of an AA meeting.
  • stetsonstetson Shipmate
    BroJames wrote: »
    I think the joke is that if you replace ‘socialist’ with ‘alcoholic’ the slap line sounds just like the beginning of an AA meeting.

    Ah, missed that precise echo. Thanks.
  • stetsonstetson Shipmate
    edited July 16
    FWIW, outside of real-life entryist arguments (which were usually tense but still polite), the trotskyists are by far my favorite faction of leninists. They have by far the strongest grip on reality,
    because they don't think themselves obligated to follow the capricious logic of foreign dictators,
    and were pretty early among the 1917 club in adopting and maintaining progressive stances on LGBQT rights etc(by contrast, the Moscow-line forever boys and the stalinists/maoists) have nothing but shame in this regard).

    I mean, do yourself the favour of a lifetime and duckduckgo "Fourth International Posadist International". There just has to be something great about a bolshevik tendency that can give rise to THAT.
  • I had already heard of the Posadists through a YouTube video I watched.
  • stetsonstetson Shipmate
    edited July 16
    I had already heard of the Posadists through a YouTube video I watched.

    In all sincerity, that's probably the best place to learn about them.

    I also liked the Spartacists, who in the early 1990s took an active role in championing the adult-entertainer turned teansgressive performance-artist Annie Sprinkle. Though overall, the WSWS, the on-line organ of one of the major 4th Int'l groups, is the best place for thoughtful applications of permanent revolution. They actually have a pretty good film review section.
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