Someone asked "Why do some British people not like donald trump?"
Nate White, an articulate and witty writer from England, wrote this magnificent response:
"A few things spring to mind.
trump lacks certain qualities which the British traditionally esteem.
For instance, he has no class, no charm, no coolness, no credibility, no compassion, no wit, no warmth, no wisdom, no subtlety, no sensitivity, no self-awareness, no humility, no honour and no grace - all qualities, funnily enough, with which his predecessor Mr. Obama was generously blessed.
So for us, the stark contrast does rather throw trump’s limitations into embarrassingly sharp relief.
Plus, we like a laugh. And while trump may be laughable, he has never once said anything wry, witty or even faintly amusing - not once, ever.
I don’t say that rhetorically, I mean it quite literally: not once, not ever. And that fact is particularly disturbing to the British sensibility - for us, to lack humour is almost inhuman.
But with trump, it’s a fact. He doesn’t even seem to understand what a joke is - his idea of a joke is a crass comment, an illiterate insult, a casual act of cruelty.
The most eye-roll-inducing part of this particular tirade is Trump’s claim that “our great Indian people, in massive numbers, want this to happen.”
I am waiting for an American Indian / Native to come forth and say, "No we don't." Absent that, maybe they do?
If you need me to say something…
No, really, why should American Indians /your preferred term jump forward to refute his ridiculous crap? It’s not like we’re Mephistopheles, bound to show up and do some work every time he utters something asinine.
The most eye-roll-inducing part of this particular tirade is Trump’s claim that “our great Indian people, in massive numbers, want this to happen.”
I am waiting for an American Indian / Native to come forth and say, "No we don't." Absent that, maybe they do?
@Lamb Chopped is right. I mean, I don’t think it takes too much thought to reject the idea that Native Americans are clamoring in large numbers for a return of the nickname “Redskins,” which has long been considered a racist slur.
We must not forget how Obama plotted against T in the 2016 election. (Deflection)
Oh, and the tariff agreements with the Philippines and Indonesia (Winning)
And no Coca Cola is going to convert its soda lines to cane sugar Make America Healthy Again. Couple of problems here, 1)USA has a very limited supply of cane sugar, and 2) one of the cane refineries in USA is closing down. Where can Coke get its cane sugar? Brazil?
Someone asked "Why do some British people not like donald trump?"
Nate White, an articulate and witty writer from England, wrote this magnificent response:
"A few things spring to mind.
trump lacks certain qualities which the British traditionally esteem.
For instance, he has no class, no charm, no coolness, no credibility, no compassion, no wit, no warmth, no wisdom, no subtlety, no sensitivity, no self-awareness, no humility, no honour and no grace - all qualities, funnily enough, with which his predecessor Mr. Obama was generously blessed.
So for us, the stark contrast does rather throw trump’s limitations into embarrassingly sharp relief.
Plus, we like a laugh. And while trump may be laughable, he has never once said anything wry, witty or even faintly amusing - not once, ever.
I don’t say that rhetorically, I mean it quite literally: not once, not ever. And that fact is particularly disturbing to the British sensibility - for us, to lack humour is almost inhuman.
But with trump, it’s a fact. He doesn’t even seem to understand what a joke is - his idea of a joke is a crass comment, an illiterate insult, a casual act of cruelty.
A similar lacuna of those qualities supposedly esteemed among the British did little to thwart the ascension of Boris Johnson.
The most eye-roll-inducing part of this particular tirade is Trump’s claim that “our great Indian people, in massive numbers, want this to happen.”
I am waiting for an American Indian / Native to come forth and say, "No we don't." Absent that, maybe they do?
@Lamb Chopped is right. I mean, I don’t think it takes too much thought to reject the idea that Native Americans are clamoring in large numbers for a return of the nickname “Redskins,” which has long been considered a racist slur.
Thank you. My point is he should be called out on his bullshit. Just letting him lie about something and not saying "No that's not true" just emboldens him. He claimed to speak for massive numbers of Native Americans. He needs to be shut down. And only Native Americans can do that here.
... certain qualities which the British traditionally esteem.
For instance, he has no class, no charm, no coolness, no credibility, no compassion, no wit, no warmth, no wisdom, no subtlety, no sensitivity, no self-awareness, no humility, no honour and no grace - ...
Plus, we like a laugh. And while trump may be laughable, he has never once said anything wry, witty or even faintly amusing - not once, ever.
I don’t say that rhetorically, I mean it quite literally: not once, not ever. And that fact is particularly disturbing to the British sensibility - for us, to lack humour is almost inhuman.
Don't break your arm patting yourself on the back.
I don't think I've ever seen the man genuinely smiling, it's always that weird smirk with almost horizontal closed lipless mouth.
Came in to say, though: A comment in the Times (London) yesterday, reminded me that it applies especially to anyone in public life. “An untrustworthy person isn’t just untrustworthy in one area of their life. Sometimes they’re just someone who lives in a different reality to the rest of us.”
Someone asked "Why do some British people not like donald trump?"
Nate White, an articulate and witty writer from England, wrote this magnificent response:
"A few things spring to mind.
trump lacks certain qualities which the British traditionally esteem.
For instance, he has no class, no charm, no coolness, no credibility, no compassion, no wit, no warmth, no wisdom, no subtlety, no sensitivity, no self-awareness, no humility, no honour and no grace - all qualities, funnily enough, with which his predecessor Mr. Obama was generously blessed.
So for us, the stark contrast does rather throw trump’s limitations into embarrassingly sharp relief.
Plus, we like a laugh. And while trump may be laughable, he has never once said anything wry, witty or even faintly amusing - not once, ever.
I don’t say that rhetorically, I mean it quite literally: not once, not ever. And that fact is particularly disturbing to the British sensibility - for us, to lack humour is almost inhuman.
But with trump, it’s a fact. He doesn’t even seem to understand what a joke is - his idea of a joke is a crass comment, an illiterate insult, a casual act of cruelty.
A similar lacuna of those qualities supposedly esteemed among the British did little to thwart the ascension of Boris Johnson.
Except Johnson was seen as a bit of a laugh. And he was sufficiently good with words to flummox many. And he is a posh boy, and a posh accent is frequently mistaken for intelligence.
I don't think I've ever seen the man genuinely smiling, it's always that weird smirk with almost horizontal closed lipless mouth.
Came in to say, though: A comment in the Times (London) yesterday, reminded me that it applies especially to anyone in public life. “An untrustworthy person isn’t just untrustworthy in one area of their life. Sometimes they’re just someone who lives in a different reality to the rest of us.”
Someone asked "Why do some British people not like donald trump?"
Nate White, an articulate and witty writer from England, wrote this magnificent response:
"A few things spring to mind.
trump lacks certain qualities which the British traditionally esteem.
For instance, he has no class, no charm, no coolness, no credibility, no compassion, no wit, no warmth, no wisdom, no subtlety, no sensitivity, no self-awareness, no humility, no honour and no grace - all qualities, funnily enough, with which his predecessor Mr. Obama was generously blessed.
So for us, the stark contrast does rather throw trump’s limitations into embarrassingly sharp relief.
Plus, we like a laugh. And while trump may be laughable, he has never once said anything wry, witty or even faintly amusing - not once, ever.
I don’t say that rhetorically, I mean it quite literally: not once, not ever. And that fact is particularly disturbing to the British sensibility - for us, to lack humour is almost inhuman.
But with trump, it’s a fact. He doesn’t even seem to understand what a joke is - his idea of a joke is a crass comment, an illiterate insult, a casual act of cruelty.
A similar lacuna of those qualities supposedly esteemed among the British did little to thwart the ascension of Boris Johnson.
Except Johnson was seen as a bit of a laugh. And he was sufficiently good with words to flummox many. And he is a posh boy, and a posh accent is frequently mistaken for intelligence.
That's probably true. Though I'd have foregone the "except" at the start of your paragraph, since what you're saying seems to buttress what I said, rather than refute it.
Someone asked "Why do some British people not like donald trump?"
Nate White, an articulate and witty writer from England, wrote this magnificent response:
"A few things spring to mind.
trump lacks certain qualities which the British traditionally esteem.
For instance, he has no class, no charm, no coolness, no credibility, no compassion, no wit, no warmth, no wisdom, no subtlety, no sensitivity, no self-awareness, no humility, no honour and no grace - all qualities, funnily enough, with which his predecessor Mr. Obama was generously blessed.
So for us, the stark contrast does rather throw trump’s limitations into embarrassingly sharp relief.
Plus, we like a laugh. And while trump may be laughable, he has never once said anything wry, witty or even faintly amusing - not once, ever.
I don’t say that rhetorically, I mean it quite literally: not once, not ever. And that fact is particularly disturbing to the British sensibility - for us, to lack humour is almost inhuman.
But with trump, it’s a fact. He doesn’t even seem to understand what a joke is - his idea of a joke is a crass comment, an illiterate insult, a casual act of cruelty.
A similar lacuna of those qualities supposedly esteemed among the British did little to thwart the ascension of Boris Johnson.
Except Johnson was seen as a bit of a laugh. And he was sufficiently good with words to flummox many. And he is a posh boy, and a posh accent is frequently mistaken for intelligence.
That's probably true. Though I'd have foregone the "except" at the start of your paragraph, since what you're saying seems to buttress what I said, rather than refute it.
Yes, it turns out you can get past the British with this one weird trick.
Johnson had the carefully constructed image of someone who doesn't care about their image. (Not so carefully constructed as to take more effort than tousling his hair before appearing in public, but nevertheless constructed.)
Johnson had the carefully constructed image of someone who doesn't care about their image. (Not so carefully constructed as to take more effort than tousling his hair before appearing in public, but nevertheless constructed.)
Which was readily apparent to all his former colleagues in the press but also the thing they were happier to play along with rather than puncture.
Besides, I'm not entirely sure that it works to say that the British are both incredibly insightful and also easily fooled (by accent, tousled hair or someone holding a pint).
Someone asked "Why do some British people not like donald trump?"
Nate White, an articulate and witty writer from England, wrote this magnificent response:
"A few things spring to mind.
trump lacks certain qualities which the British traditionally esteem.
For instance, he has no class, no charm, no coolness, no credibility, no compassion, no wit, no warmth, no wisdom, no subtlety, no sensitivity, no self-awareness, no humility, no honour and no grace - all qualities, funnily enough, with which his predecessor Mr. Obama was generously blessed.
So for us, the stark contrast does rather throw trump’s limitations into embarrassingly sharp relief.
Plus, we like a laugh. And while trump may be laughable, he has never once said anything wry, witty or even faintly amusing - not once, ever.
I don’t say that rhetorically, I mean it quite literally: not once, not ever. And that fact is particularly disturbing to the British sensibility - for us, to lack humour is almost inhuman.
But with trump, it’s a fact. He doesn’t even seem to understand what a joke is - his idea of a joke is a crass comment, an illiterate insult, a casual act of cruelty.
A similar lacuna of those qualities supposedly esteemed among the British did little to thwart the ascension of Boris Johnson.
Except Johnson was seen as a bit of a laugh. And he was sufficiently good with words to flummox many. And he is a posh boy, and a posh accent is frequently mistaken for intelligence.
That's probably true. Though I'd have foregone the "except" at the start of your paragraph, since what you're saying seems to buttress what I said, rather than refute it.
Yes, it turns out you can get past the British with this one weird trick.
It's about class. He's too posh to lie. Though why anyone would trust the promises of a serial adulterer is beyond my understanding. If he can't or won't keep one set of promises why would he keep any?
... certain qualities which the British traditionally esteem.
For instance, he has no class, no charm, no coolness, no credibility, no compassion, no wit, no warmth, no wisdom, no subtlety, no sensitivity, no self-awareness, no humility, no honour and no grace - ...
Plus, we like a laugh. And while trump may be laughable, he has never once said anything wry, witty or even faintly amusing - not once, ever.
I don’t say that rhetorically, I mean it quite literally: not once, not ever. And that fact is particularly disturbing to the British sensibility - for us, to lack humour is almost inhuman.
Don't break your arm patting yourself on the back.
Yeah, especially since that quoted post, written by Nate White, isn’t exactly all “very true.” Self-congratulatory and smug, yes, but not completely informed.
For example, it says this:
And while trump may be laughable, he has never once said anything wry, witty or even faintly amusing - not once, ever.
I don’t say that rhetorically, I mean it quite literally: not once, not ever.
That’s remarkable that White can “literally” know everything Trump has ever said, so as to judge that Trump has not once, ever said anything faintly amusing. Perhaps he can use his powers for Good.
I’ve heard Trump say wry and amusing things—genuinely amusing, at no one’s expense. Friends of ours, who are definitely not Trump fans, recently attended graduation at West Point, and Trump was the speaker. They were actually quite surprised at how engaging, appropriate and, yes, even funny he was. At least at first. Then after about 15 minutes, he went totally off the rails and into his usual schtick.
There is a fair deal of truth in what White wrote. But it’s packaged with a fair amount of its own self-importance.
Barack Obama's office has had to make a comment on trump's attempt to have him investigated for treason. The madness and the lust for revenge of this witless oaf are beyond words.
Barack Obama's office has had to make a comment on trump's attempt to have him investigated for treason. The madness and the lust for revenge of this witless oaf are beyond words.
In this case, I think it's less about a list for revenge and more about just finding any distraction from the Epstein Files.
Barack Obama's office has had to make a comment on trump's attempt to have him investigated for treason. The madness and the lust for revenge of this witless oaf are beyond words.
In this case, I think it's less about a list for revenge and more about just finding any distraction from the Epstein Files.
Certainly that too, but revenge (not just against Obama) has been a top agenda item for trump since before the election. He has made it part of the MAGA culture.
Barack Obama's office has had to make a comment on trump's attempt to have him investigated for treason. The madness and the lust for revenge of this witless oaf are beyond words.
In this case, I think it's less about a list for revenge and more about just finding any distraction from the Epstein Files.
Certainly that too, but revenge (not just against Obama) has been a top agenda item for trump since before the election. He has made it part of the MAGA culture.
Petty revenge at that. As far as I can tell all Trump has against Obama is (a) having the temerity to President While Black and (b) roasting Trump on one occasion.
As I understood it (may be wrong as an iggerant Brit) one of the accusations against Obama was that he wasn't qualified to be President because he was not born in the USA (some said).
So if he's not a US citizen after all, how can he be accused of treason? You can't have it both ways.
As I understood it (may be wrong as an iggerant Brit) one of the accusations against Obama was that he wasn't qualified to be President because he was not born in the USA (some said).
So if he's not a US citizen after all, how can he be accused of treason? You can't have it both ways.
I presume they would claim he was a naturalised citizen, if they gave enough of a shit to care about consistency. It's not really meant to form a coherent reality, however, it's just shit flinging as distraction. The different bits of absurd allegation don't have to actually join up.
... certain qualities which the British traditionally esteem.
For instance, he has no class, no charm, no coolness, no credibility, no compassion, no wit, no warmth, no wisdom, no subtlety, no sensitivity, no self-awareness, no humility, no honour and no grace - ...
Plus, we like a laugh. And while trump may be laughable, he has never once said anything wry, witty or even faintly amusing - not once, ever.
I don’t say that rhetorically, I mean it quite literally: not once, not ever. And that fact is particularly disturbing to the British sensibility - for us, to lack humour is almost inhuman.
Don't break your arm patting yourself on the back.
Yeah, especially since that quoted post, written by Nate White, isn’t exactly all “very true.” Self-congratulatory and smug, yes, but not completely informed.
For example, it says this:
And while trump may be laughable, he has never once said anything wry, witty or even faintly amusing - not once, ever.
I don’t say that rhetorically, I mean it quite literally: not once, not ever.
That’s remarkable that White can “literally” know everything Trump has ever said, so as to judge that Trump has not once, ever said anything faintly amusing. Perhaps he can use his powers for Good.
I’ve heard Trump say wry and amusing things—genuinely amusing, at no one’s expense. Friends of ours, who are definitely not Trump fans, recently attended graduation at West Point, and Trump was the speaker. They were actually quite surprised at how engaging, appropriate and, yes, even funny he was. At least at first. Then after about 15 minutes, he went totally off the rails and into his usual schtick.
There is a fair deal of truth in what White wrote. But it’s packaged with a fair amount of its own self-importance.
... certain qualities which the British traditionally esteem.
For instance, he has no class, no charm, no coolness, no credibility, no compassion, no wit, no warmth, no wisdom, no subtlety, no sensitivity, no self-awareness, no humility, no honour and no grace - ...
Plus, we like a laugh. And while trump may be laughable, he has never once said anything wry, witty or even faintly amusing - not once, ever.
I don’t say that rhetorically, I mean it quite literally: not once, not ever. And that fact is particularly disturbing to the British sensibility - for us, to lack humour is almost inhuman.
Don't break your arm patting yourself on the back.
Yeah, especially since that quoted post, written by Nate White, isn’t exactly all “very true.” Self-congratulatory and smug, yes, but not completely informed.
For example, it says this:
And while trump may be laughable, he has never once said anything wry, witty or even faintly amusing - not once, ever.
I don’t say that rhetorically, I mean it quite literally: not once, not ever.
That’s remarkable that White can “literally” know everything Trump has ever said, so as to judge that Trump has not once, ever said anything faintly amusing. Perhaps he can use his powers for Good.
I’ve heard Trump say wry and amusing things—genuinely amusing, at no one’s expense. Friends of ours, who are definitely not Trump fans, recently attended graduation at West Point, and Trump was the speaker. They were actually quite surprised at how engaging, appropriate and, yes, even funny he was. At least at first. Then after about 15 minutes, he went totally off the rails and into his usual schtick.
There is a fair deal of truth in what White wrote. But it’s packaged with a fair amount of its own self-importance.
You don’t seem to understand exaggeration for comic affect. In fact lots of British type humour seems to pass you and others by. It is how we do things. Please accept this. We are an international board. It is going to happen.
You don’t seem to understand exaggeration for comic affect. In fact lots of British type humour seems to pass you and others by. It is how we do things. Please accept this. We are an international board. It is going to happen.
I may be British, but the humour in the quoted text passes me by. In any case, now speaking as a Host, we do not like people trumpeting their own country at the expense of other countries with posters on this board. We especially don't like people patting their country on the back when posters on this board have to actually deal with Trump and his policies.
Please desist from anything liable to contribute to a pond war.
... certain qualities which the British traditionally esteem.
For instance, he has no class, no charm, no coolness, no credibility, no compassion, no wit, no warmth, no wisdom, no subtlety, no sensitivity, no self-awareness, no humility, no honour and no grace - ...
Plus, we like a laugh. And while trump may be laughable, he has never once said anything wry, witty or even faintly amusing - not once, ever.
I don’t say that rhetorically, I mean it quite literally: not once, not ever. And that fact is particularly disturbing to the British sensibility - for us, to lack humour is almost inhuman.
Don't break your arm patting yourself on the back.
Yeah, especially since that quoted post, written by Nate White, isn’t exactly all “very true.” Self-congratulatory and smug, yes, but not completely informed.
For example, it says this:
And while trump may be laughable, he has never once said anything wry, witty or even faintly amusing - not once, ever.
I don’t say that rhetorically, I mean it quite literally: not once, not ever.
That’s remarkable that White can “literally” know everything Trump has ever said, so as to judge that Trump has not once, ever said anything faintly amusing. Perhaps he can use his powers for Good.
I’ve heard Trump say wry and amusing things—genuinely amusing, at no one’s expense. Friends of ours, who are definitely not Trump fans, recently attended graduation at West Point, and Trump was the speaker. They were actually quite surprised at how engaging, appropriate and, yes, even funny he was. At least at first. Then after about 15 minutes, he went totally off the rails and into his usual schtick.
There is a fair deal of truth in what White wrote. But it’s packaged with a fair amount of its own self-importance.
... certain qualities which the British traditionally esteem.
For instance, he has no class, no charm, no coolness, no credibility, no compassion, no wit, no warmth, no wisdom, no subtlety, no sensitivity, no self-awareness, no humility, no honour and no grace - ...
Plus, we like a laugh. And while trump may be laughable, he has never once said anything wry, witty or even faintly amusing - not once, ever.
I don’t say that rhetorically, I mean it quite literally: not once, not ever. And that fact is particularly disturbing to the British sensibility - for us, to lack humour is almost inhuman.
Don't break your arm patting yourself on the back.
Yeah, especially since that quoted post, written by Nate White, isn’t exactly all “very true.” Self-congratulatory and smug, yes, but not completely informed.
For example, it says this:
And while trump may be laughable, he has never once said anything wry, witty or even faintly amusing - not once, ever.
I don’t say that rhetorically, I mean it quite literally: not once, not ever.
That’s remarkable that White can “literally” know everything Trump has ever said, so as to judge that Trump has not once, ever said anything faintly amusing. Perhaps he can use his powers for Good.
I’ve heard Trump say wry and amusing things—genuinely amusing, at no one’s expense. Friends of ours, who are definitely not Trump fans, recently attended graduation at West Point, and Trump was the speaker. They were actually quite surprised at how engaging, appropriate and, yes, even funny he was. At least at first. Then after about 15 minutes, he went totally off the rails and into his usual schtick.
There is a fair deal of truth in what White wrote. But it’s packaged with a fair amount of its own self-importance.
You don’t seem to understand exaggeration for comic affect.
You are wrong about that; I understand it quite well. I can also recognize when it’s done well and when it’s not.
In fact lots of British type humour seems to pass you and others by.
Oh good grief. You’re wrong again. But please, go ahead and think you need to explain it to me.
It is how we do things. Please accept this.
I do. I’m also inclined to call it out when appropriate.
We are an international board. It is going to happen.
Nate White, whom I was critiquing, did not post on this international board.
President announces Japan will invest $550 billion in the US. No specifics. US will keep tariffs at 15% instead of the previously announced 25%. Why does this taste like a mob shakedown?
Considering that Japan is already spending $14.1 billion to buy US Steel, one has to wonder how many more US businesses Japan will have to buy to get the total up to $550 billion.
Trump toured the construction site of the Federal Reserve building. It was originally built in 1913 and needed renovation. The estimated cost of renovation was $1.9 billion. It is now at $2.5 billion. Trump is not happy. A reporter asked him what he would do if one of his projects had such a cost overrun. Trump said he would fire the project manager. Chairman Powell was right beside him. I think Trump is getting ready to do just that.
As a convicted criminal with a special diplomatic dispensation for entering the country, will he be required to wear an ankle tracking device and report his activities at a police station?
Has anyone else here seen the newest episode of South Park? It's crass and vulgar -- of course it is, it's South Park -- and Trump is reportedly angry about how he's depicted. My partner and I literally laughed out loud.
Has anyone else here seen the newest episode of South Park? It's crass and vulgar -- of course it is, it's South Park -- and Trump is reportedly angry about how he's depicted. My partner and I literally laughed out loud.
Is everything Mr Trump says and does intended to deflect attention away from something else?
I think logic compels there to be other things that Trump says or does ... because there needs to be something for his other comments and actions to deflect attention from.
Has anyone else here seen the newest episode of South Park? It's crass and vulgar -- of course it is, it's South Park -- and Trump is reportedly angry about how he's depicted. My partner and I literally laughed out loud.
So the president of the USA can take time out from destroying his own and other nations to watch TV? And then get angry about it.
One of the most annoying things about Trump (and I do mean annoying as opposed to enraging) is that he does have moments of genuinely being funny (particularly on Twitter before 2016) - plenty of people on the left have commented on this, that he would have made an amazing drag queen or pop culture commentator but chose to use his skills for evil instead. He's a New York showbiz guy whose favourite movie is Sunset Boulevard, he's supposed to be roasting people on Drag Race not having access to nuclear codes.
Has anyone else here seen the newest episode of South Park? It's crass and vulgar -- of course it is, it's South Park -- and Trump is reportedly angry about how he's depicted. My partner and I literally laughed out loud.
So the president of the USA can take time out from destroying his own and other nations to watch TV? And then get angry about it.
He can take time out to promote his business interests (golf courses in Scotland at this moment in time). Why not time out to watch TV?
He does, of course, have right to time off and if watching TV is something that lets him relax then there's nothing wrong with that.
It's one thing to gain some R&R privately, and another thing entirely to vent in public, or to make sure others share your venting in public. It's also doubly problematic because we first ought to assume he's speaking as POTUS, and not privately as Donald F. Trump.
Has anyone else here seen the newest episode of South Park? It's crass and vulgar -- of course it is, it's South Park -- and Trump is reportedly angry about how he's depicted. My partner and I literally laughed out loud.
Where can I find it?
Found it.
trump's venting will have caused many to enjoy South Park who'd never seen it before.
One of the most annoying things about Trump (and I do mean annoying as opposed to enraging) is that he does have moments of genuinely being funny (particularly on Twitter before 2016) - plenty of people on the left have commented on this, that he would have made an amazing drag queen or pop culture commentator but chose to use his skills for evil instead. He's a New York showbiz guy whose favourite movie is Sunset Boulevard, he's supposed to be roasting people on Drag Race not having access to nuclear codes.
Camille Paglia(culturally liberal in an "everyone has their role to play" sorta way) was still writing on politics when Trump was getting his first primary-campaign going. She defended his joke about John McCain, ie. "I prefer war heroes who didn't get shot down", as being "something Lenny Bruce would have said".
(Granted, Paglia absolutely despised McCain, and admitted that Trump was not actually suitable for high office.)
Has anyone else here seen the newest episode of South Park? It's crass and vulgar -- of course it is, it's South Park -- and Trump is reportedly angry about how he's depicted. My partner and I literally laughed out loud.
Where can I find it?
Found it.
trump's venting will have caused many to enjoy South Park who'd never seen it before.
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If you need me to say something…
No, really, why should American Indians /your preferred term jump forward to refute his ridiculous crap? It’s not like we’re Mephistopheles, bound to show up and do some work every time he utters something asinine.
But since you asked:
USA Today: Native Americans rail against Trump's call to change Commanders' name back.
Oh, and the tariff agreements with the Philippines and Indonesia (Winning)
And no Coca Cola is going to convert its soda lines to cane sugar Make America Healthy Again. Couple of problems here, 1)USA has a very limited supply of cane sugar, and 2) one of the cane refineries in USA is closing down. Where can Coke get its cane sugar? Brazil?
A similar lacuna of those qualities supposedly esteemed among the British did little to thwart the ascension of Boris Johnson.
Thank you. My point is he should be called out on his bullshit. Just letting him lie about something and not saying "No that's not true" just emboldens him. He claimed to speak for massive numbers of Native Americans. He needs to be shut down. And only Native Americans can do that here.
Don't break your arm patting yourself on the back.
Came in to say, though: A comment in the Times (London) yesterday, reminded me that it applies especially to anyone in public life. “An untrustworthy person isn’t just untrustworthy in one area of their life. Sometimes they’re just someone who lives in a different reality to the rest of us.”
Except Johnson was seen as a bit of a laugh. And he was sufficiently good with words to flummox many. And he is a posh boy, and a posh accent is frequently mistaken for intelligence.
I said the same about Bill Clinton.
That's probably true. Though I'd have foregone the "except" at the start of your paragraph, since what you're saying seems to buttress what I said, rather than refute it.
Yes, it turns out you can get past the British with this one weird trick.
Which was readily apparent to all his former colleagues in the press but also the thing they were happier to play along with rather than puncture.
Besides, I'm not entirely sure that it works to say that the British are both incredibly insightful and also easily fooled (by accent, tousled hair or someone holding a pint).
It's about class. He's too posh to lie. Though why anyone would trust the promises of a serial adulterer is beyond my understanding. If he can't or won't keep one set of promises why would he keep any?
For example, it says this: That’s remarkable that White can “literally” know everything Trump has ever said, so as to judge that Trump has not once, ever said anything faintly amusing. Perhaps he can use his powers for Good.
I’ve heard Trump say wry and amusing things—genuinely amusing, at no one’s expense. Friends of ours, who are definitely not Trump fans, recently attended graduation at West Point, and Trump was the speaker. They were actually quite surprised at how engaging, appropriate and, yes, even funny he was. At least at first. Then after about 15 minutes, he went totally off the rails and into his usual schtick.
There is a fair deal of truth in what White wrote. But it’s packaged with a fair amount of its own self-importance.
In this case, I think it's less about a list for revenge and more about just finding any distraction from the Epstein Files.
Certainly that too, but revenge (not just against Obama) has been a top agenda item for trump since before the election. He has made it part of the MAGA culture.
Petty revenge at that. As far as I can tell all Trump has against Obama is (a) having the temerity to President While Black and (b) roasting Trump on one occasion.
So if he's not a US citizen after all, how can he be accused of treason? You can't have it both ways.
I presume they would claim he was a naturalised citizen, if they gave enough of a shit to care about consistency. It's not really meant to form a coherent reality, however, it's just shit flinging as distraction. The different bits of absurd allegation don't have to actually join up.
You don’t seem to understand exaggeration for comic affect. In fact lots of British type humour seems to pass you and others by. It is how we do things. Please accept this. We are an international board. It is going to happen.
Please desist from anything liable to contribute to a pond war.
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Oh good grief. You’re wrong again. But please, go ahead and think you need to explain it to me.
I do. I’m also inclined to call it out when appropriate.
Nate White, whom I was critiquing, did not post on this international board.
Dafyd Hell Host
Heh. Never having seen Up Pompeii, I guessed that was what you were quoting, and turns out I was pretty close. (Never saw Carry On Anything, either.)
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Where can I find it?
So the president of the USA can take time out from destroying his own and other nations to watch TV? And then get angry about it.
He does, of course, have right to time off and if watching TV is something that lets him relax then there's nothing wrong with that.
Found it.
trump's venting will have caused many to enjoy South Park who'd never seen it before.
His tiny penis is certainly star of the show.
Camille Paglia(culturally liberal in an "everyone has their role to play" sorta way) was still writing on politics when Trump was getting his first primary-campaign going. She defended his joke about John McCain, ie. "I prefer war heroes who didn't get shot down", as being "something Lenny Bruce would have said".
(Granted, Paglia absolutely despised McCain, and admitted that Trump was not actually suitable for high office.)
Where did you find it?
Thanks.
About Trump watching TV: I'd probably watch a show that depicted me as being in bed with Satan, so I don't blame him for this.
I read somewhere that Comedy Central wanted to blur that, so the makers put little eyes on it to make it a character.