Will people actually listen to Farage?

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  • HugalHugal Shipmate
    It appears that some kind of MAGA group has floated the idea of supporting Reform. If Reform were to get in the group would its policies enacted probably
  • Jane RJane R Shipmate
    I see he has decided that the most urgent issue at the moment is tax relief for non-doms.

    I am slightly surprised that he did not use his favourite magic number of £350M when suggesting a flat rate for them all to pay.
  • HugalHugal Shipmate
    Reform have come out top in an early voting intention poll. They won by a tiny margin. Not enough to form a government on their own. Even if they can get a partner from the smaller parties that may not be enough. This early is not really going to affect the National Election, but should make Labour and the Conservatives take note. If the two of them up their game they should ride this out. Also there is a good chance Farage would not be PM as he may not get the approval of most of the House.
  • LouiseLouise Epiphanies Host
    That's two £36 million donations to Reform now. Both from mega-rich cryptocurrency types -

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clye9nldd7do

    Andy Burnham could have stopped that by capping donations but refused to - the utterly useless twerp.

    So long as Labour keep bringing, not even knives, but chocolate teapots to a gunfight we're in serious trouble. They're absolutely useless against the far right.

    ( thread necromancy because thought better of putting it in Purgatory)
  • Aside from the natural disgust, these huge donations calls into question the whole idea of political donations above a trivial amount.
    In some places democracy is treated so seriously that it is funded centrally. It could be possible to link voter registration to donation, with the funding for voters that do not express a preference going to independent candidates.
  • ArethosemyfeetArethosemyfeet Shipmate, Heaven Host
    I'm not at all keen on a central register of party supporters. A ban on donations from organisations unless they're membership organisations with a verifiable approval process or opt-in for political donations and an individual cap of, say, £1000 annually ought to do the trick. Heck, I'd forego membership organisations being able to donate if it meant shutting down billionaire ownership of parties. Even if the unions can't donate they can still organise volunteers and run issue-based campaigns.
  • I'm not at all keen on a central register of party supporters.

    Yeah, importing a particular point solution without looking at context and also pitfalls of those other regimes would generally be a very bad thing.
  • I’d rather import a system than make our own “world beating” one.

    When it comes to public sector IT projects we don’t have a good track record.
  • sionisais wrote: »
    I’d rather import a system than make our own “world beating” one.

    Right, but importing one particular point from a completely different context is liable not to work particularly well. Most of the places with government funding adopt a PR system (which makes sense, because historically funding parties proportionately flowed out of proportionally and centrally), a number of other systems have just ended up with various forms of cartel politics, which you would want to avoid.
  • Jane RJane R Shipmate
    How about making a rule that any donations over £1000 must be matched by a donation to a charity (from an approved list)? There are so many worthy causes out there: Mermaids, Care 4 Calais, the RNLI...
  • DoublethinkDoublethink Admin, 8th Day Host
    People donating over 1 million to any political party must submit their financial affairs to a forensics audit so we can be assured our ruling class is not being paid for by the proceeds of crime.
  • DoublethinkDoublethink Admin, 8th Day Host
    The effects are somewhat contained by legal spending limits for political parties that already exist.
  • Alan Cresswell Alan Cresswell Admin, 8th Day Host
    Spending limits apply during elections. But out with election spending there are effectively no limits.
  • £72million is a lot of dosh. I wonder what size private army of patriots it might buy?
  • ArethosemyfeetArethosemyfeet Shipmate, Heaven Host
    £72million is a lot of dosh. I wonder what size private army of patriots it might buy?

    Certainly amounts to a fair few pints of Stella and Wetherspoons breakfasts.
  • DafydDafyd Hell Host
    Farage might even be able to afford a hearing aid so he can listen to what the other people are saying.
  • Other people are free to say what they please, because hearing is not listening.
  • Interesting to note that, yesterday in Wales, one Reform Senedd member defected to Plaid Cymru only a few months after the elections, and the Welsh leader of Reform resigned his position after being arrested (and released on bail) on suspicion of assault and coercive behaviour.
  • Yes, there was a news item in the Guardian. Reform don't present a particularly clean image, at least in some places.
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