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  • Ruth wrote: »
    The sidekick is too young. But he's also charisma-free. I doubt very much he could hold together the motley crew that is the current GOP.
    So do I. I expect to see quite a battle for the next Republican presidential candidate, and I don’t think it’s a given that candidate will be in the Trump mold. I think a lot depends on how tomorrow goes.

    Even if it’s the biggest blue wave imaginable, it would, I think, be a big mistake to see that as an electoral endorsement of the Democratic Party. (It may of course, be at least in part endorsement of specific Democratic candidates who are more attractive than their GOP opponents, as with Talarico and Paxton.) Rather, I think it’s better viewed as voters registering displeasure with the GOP generally and Trump specifically; voting against them is the only way to register that displeasure in a midterm election. It’s basically a vote against Trump, not a vote for Democrats as such.

    The bigger the blue wave, if there is a blue wave, the stronger the signal might be to the GOP that Trump may not be their ticket to success in 2028.

    A lot of the UK YouTube serious news commentators are picking up that he seems disinhibited about fetishing men’s bodies in his recent rallies. Leading on into the series of questions, is he bi and been hiding it, if so wtf given how damaging his policies have been for the lgbtq+ community, and will this put off his evangelical base ?
    I don’t think anyone in the US, at least not anyone I’ve heard, is hearing Trump’s comments about men’s physiques as some kind of clue that he’s bi and been hiding it. It plays much more, I think, as part and parcel of his misogyny and his approval of a particular kind masculinity. It’s his particularly bizarre and creepy way of saying “He’s a real man, so you should vote for him.”


  • stetsonstetson Shipmate
    A lot of the UK YouTube serious news commentators are picking up that he seems disinhibited about fetishing men’s bodies in his recent rallies. Leading on into the series of questions, is he bi and been hiding it, if so wtf given how damaging his policies have been for the lgbtq+ community, and will this put off his evangelical base ?

    He was way more pornographic in his second-hand insinuations about Arnold Palmer's penis just before the 2024 election, and it did not seem to hurt him with evangelicals at all.
  • BoogieBoogie Heaven Host
    He's certainly got a thing about men's arses!
  • Barnabas62Barnabas62 Shipmate, Host Emeritus
    DT I’m not sure he knows what he’s going to say next. Stream of consciousness stuff - or whatever passes for consciousness for him.
  • stetson wrote: »
    He was way more pornographic in his second-hand insinuations about Arnold Palmer's penis just before the 2024 election, and it did not seem to hurt him with evangelicals at all.
    Because real men, as all good red-blooded evangelical men know, don't play golf. They go hunting.
  • stetson wrote: »
    He was way more pornographic in his second-hand insinuations about Arnold Palmer's penis just before the 2024 election, and it did not seem to hurt him with evangelicals at all.
    Because real men, as all good red-blooded evangelical men know, don't play golf. They go hunting.
    Well, this is Trump we’re talking about. In his world, real men play golf, presumably on one of his golf courses, or kill elephants and other endangered species while on big game safari.


  • A lot of the UK YouTube serious news commentators are picking up that he seems disinhibited about fetishing men’s bodies in his recent rallies. Leading on into the series of questions, is he bi and been hiding it, if so wtf given how damaging his policies have been for the lgbtq+ community, and will this put off his evangelical base ?

    TRIP on youtube is worth a look, interviewing the Mooch...if that were not the one to which you were referring :-)
  • A lot of the UK YouTube serious news commentators are picking up that he seems disinhibited about fetishing men’s bodies in his recent rallies. Leading on into the series of questions, is he bi and been hiding it, if so wtf given how damaging his policies have been for the lgbtq+ community, and will this put off his evangelical base ?

    As my mother used to say, “He’s opening his mouth and letting the wind blow his tongue around”.
    I don’t think he is aware of what he is saying, let alone the meaning.

  • BoogieBoogie Heaven Host
    He seems to make a lot of odd noises too.
  • AIUI he also produces unpleasant smells...
  • stetsonstetson Shipmate
    edited November 2
    stetson wrote: »
    He was way more pornographic in his second-hand insinuations about Arnold Palmer's penis just before the 2024 election, and it did not seem to hurt him with evangelicals at all.
    Because real men, as all good red-blooded evangelical men know, don't play golf. They go hunting.

    For the record, his comments about Palmer's dick were meant as complimentary: all the other dudes in the club shower were just mesmerized at how much he was packin'.
  • PomonaPomona Shipmate
    @Doublethink lots of anti-gay GOP politicians have had dalliances with men. Nothing new. Also there are lots of self-hating LGBTQ+ conservatives.
  • More defeats for the fartletter-in-chief. The Supreme Court has rejected his bid to have 20,000 California ballots invalidated as having been cast by alleged non-citizens. And a judge has dismissed his effort to have the Alaska senate race decertified if a Democrat wins.

    The latter, though, is interesting. It is alleged that Democrats deliberately recruited a gentleman named Dan Sullivan to run against the incumbent Republican senator Dan Sullivan, hoping that voters would be sufficiently confused as to dilute the Republican vote. If true, this would not be illegal -- indeed, Republicans as well as Democrats have engaged in this practice before -- unless the "other" Dan Sullivan was promised a reward of some sort for putting his name on the ballot.
  • It amuses me that trump believes that Alaskans are too stupid to see what is going on there, and might be manipulated by the Sullivan exploit.
  • Bishops FingerBishops Finger Shipmate
    edited November 3
    AIUI, Trump doesn't just let off farts - he actually poops in his trousers, so it is said.

    If this is so, he is to be pitied - incontinence is a most unpleasant and undignified ailment...

    Is it time for him to be put into some sort of care facility?
  • It amuses me that trump believes that Alaskans are too stupid to see what is going on there, and might be manipulated by the Sullivan exploit.
    That was basically the argument the court made. Alaskans have known about this situation for months, and they have been advised through multiple media channels to take care to be sure they are voting for the candidate of their choice. Furthermore, the ballot is clearly marked "Dan Sullivan, incumbent Republican senator" and just plain old "Daniel Sullivan."
  • AIUI, Trump doesn't just let off farts - he actually poops in his trousers, so it is said.
    Incontenance of stool is indeed tragic. I just hope taxpayers aren't footing the bill for his disposable underwear -- if indeed he uses it.
  • It amuses me that trump believes that Alaskans are too stupid to see what is going on there, and might be manipulated by the Sullivan exploit.
    Just because Trump thinks the situation might be exploited for political gain doesn’t mean he actually believes it.


  • AIUI, Trump doesn't just let off farts - he actually poops in his trousers, so it is said.
    This may explain why a growing number of Repugnicans are no longer kissing his you-know-what. :relieved:

    (Miss Amanda will get her wrap.)
  • There goes my favourite line about trump needing to be kissed on all four cheeks by those seeking his favour.
  • DoublethinkDoublethink Admin, 8th Day Host
    We could do with less ablism about Trump's reputed incontinence, he is a reprehensible human being because of what he chooses to do, rather than because of any specific disability or illness he may happen have.

    Doublethink, Admin
  • Nick Tamen wrote: »
    I don’t think anyone in the US, at least not anyone I’ve heard, is hearing Trump’s comments about men’s physiques as some kind of clue that he’s bi and been hiding it. It plays much more, I think, as part and parcel of his misogyny and his approval of a particular kind masculinity.

    Yeah, so much so that people have built compilations of his statements:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgoIajELUds

    Which seem to a mix of what you said, and Trump's love of the superlative. Although the most recent comments seem to go a little further, though otoh he obviously has a history of being a little more explicit/crude.
  • HuiaHuia Shipmate
    Well done America. I am hoping that when Aotearoa/NZ goes to the polls this Saturday we have a similar change.
  • Indeed.

    There are signs of hope worldwide - Hungary, Serbia, Brazil...
  • stetsonstetson Shipmate
    Hey, did ya'll see whom Zelenskyy has awarded The Order of Princess Olga, First Class? Maybe he hired the same consultant as Infantino for the FIFA Peace Prize.
  • SandemaniacSandemaniac Shipmate
    I assume it's an easy win in terms of keeping Trump (D) on side. Hand out a shiny bauble, get love back.
  • stetson wrote: »
    Hey, did ya'll see whom Zelenskyy has awarded The Order of Princess Olga, First Class? Maybe he hired the same consultant as Infantino for the FIFA Peace Prize.

    Do have an accessible linky? I've not seen anything about this on UK news.

    I suspect that the ex-comedian Zelenskyy is probably poking subtle fun at Trump, which must be very tempting, given the way the Orange Overlord has treated Ukraine recently.
  • stetsonstetson Shipmate
    stetson wrote: »
    Hey, did ya'll see whom Zelenskyy has awarded The Order of Princess Olga, First Class? Maybe he hired the same consultant as Infantino for the FIFA Peace Prize.

    Do have an accessible linky? I've not seen anything about this on UK news.

    Reuters: "Ukraine's Zelenskiy awards Melania Trump state honour".

    I suspect that the ex-comedian Zelenskyy is probably poking subtle fun at Trump, which must be very tempting, given the way the Orange Overlord has treated Ukraine recently.

    No, I don't think Zelenskyy would publically mock, even subtly, one of the guys making pivotal decisions about how much material support Ukraine gets from the west. I think it's brown-nosing, ostensibly justified by Melania's apparently legitimate contribution to the evacuation of refugees during a recent ceasefire.

    The Order of Princess Olga is apparently a real thing, with previous recipients including noted Atlanticists Anne Applebaum and Nancy Pelosi.
  • stetsonstetson Shipmate
    I assume it's an easy win in terms of keeping Trump (D) on side. Hand out a shiny bauble, get love back.

    Yes.
  • RuthRuth Shipmate
    stetson wrote: »
    The Order of Princess Olga is apparently a real thing ...

    Okay but to my parochial American mind where all princesses except Princess Di are Disney cartoons, this sounds completely fake.
  • stetson wrote: »
    Hey, did ya'll see whom Zelenskyy has awarded The Order of Princess Olga, First Class? Maybe he hired the same consultant as Infantino for the FIFA Peace Prize.

    Do have an accessible linky? I've not seen anything about this on UK news.

    I suspect that the ex-comedian Zelenskyy is probably poking subtle fun at Trump, which must be very tempting, given the way the Orange Overlord has treated Ukraine recently.

    BBC link that mentions it. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cm87zvpzwq0no
    It's lurking in the Europe and US & Canada sections of their site. Couldn't see it on the front page.
  • Thanks @Celtic Knotweed - I hadn't appreciated the fact that the award was to Melania...

    No doubt there's more to the matter than meets the eye, but if Mrs Trump has indeed been a force for good, then the award is well-deserved.
  • stetsonstetson Shipmate
    edited 6:15PM
    Ruth wrote: »
    stetson wrote: »
    The Order of Princess Olga is apparently a real thing ...

    Okay but to my parochial American mind where all princesses except Princess Di are Disney cartoons, this sounds completely fake.

    Well, in Canada, we actually have something called the Nickel Resolution, forbidding our citizens from taking British titles(*). So yeah, "The Order of Princess Olga" might sound somewhat foreign to some Canadians as well, but it does appear to be pretty real.

    (*) Trump himself violated the spirit of this resolution by announcing his pardon of Conrad Black using Black's title of "Lord Black of Crossharbour". That title being the reason Black had to renounce his Canadian citizenship, since the Liberals wouldn't allow him to take the title as a Canadian, in what Black's apologists claimed was selective enforcement.
  • Jane RJane R Shipmate
    (Pause to google) Actually Olga was a princess before William the Bastard was a twinkle in his father's eye.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olga_of_Kiev

    Whether or not Melania Trump deserves the honour is beside the point. Trump didn't get it himself so it will barely impinge on his consciousness.
  • FirenzeFirenze Shipmate, Host Emeritus
    I would say, on the basis of the life of St Olga of Kyiv, that the message is: Don't mess with Ukraine unless you want your arse handed to you (eg your emissaries buried alive, and a fair bit of massacre).
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