Platform 9 and 4/4: A New Railway Appreciation Thread

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  • SighthoundSighthound Shipmate
    I find it intriguing that pre-group modelling has suddenly become 'cool'.

    I welcome it, as I have always thought the real golden days of railways were pre-1923 (or arguably, pre-1914), but I wonder how long it can last. Perhaps people have finally realised what I figured out many years ago. That you can no more go back to yesterday than you can to <whatever year you choose>. History began five minutes ago.
  • It would have been so nice (in Real Life) if "Ben Alder" hadn't been scrapped.

    A "Claud Hamilton" would also have been good although, with so much rebuilding over the years, I don't know if there were still any in "original" condition.
  • It would have been so nice (in Real Life) if "Ben Alder" hadn't been scrapped.

    A "Claud Hamilton" would also have been good although, with so much rebuilding over the years, I don't know if there were still any in "original" condition.

    Yes, the loss of Ben Alder was a Very Bad Thing.

    I hadn't heard about the new Rapido GNoSR loco (Gordon Highlander, I presume?), but remember that IRL it never bore green livery - by the time it was built, the GNoSR locos were black...

    As you say, maybe it's time for the Great Eastern to get another look-in? Accurascale have done a really good job with the delightful little J67 0-6-0T, so maybe they have something else GER up their sleeve...I was tempted to buy one, to go with my Rapido ex-Wisbech & Upwell coaches (as used on the Kelvedon & Tollesbury line), but managed to resist. I already have a Hornby J15, and the Rapido Y7, in BR livery, so must NOT stray further from former Southern territory...
  • The Decapod, definitely ...!

    a. Would it sell?
    b. Would it go round 2nd radius curves?
  • Bishops FingerBishops Finger Shipmate
    edited 1:54PM
    The Decapod, definitely ...!

    a. Would it sell?
    b. Would it go round 2nd radius curves?

    (a) Probably;
    (b) Probably not!

    BTW, I see that Rapido's website features no less than 12 variations on the GNoSR 4-4-0 theme. I had forgotten that Gordon Highlander and his shedmates were only part of a series of very similar engines, many of which lasted well into LNER and BR days:

    https://rapidotrains.co.uk/lner-d40-4-4-0-gnosr-v-f/

    Hats off to Rapido UK for producing such oodles of lovely locomotives and rolling stock (I have several of their very nice wagons and vans). Their O1 has received excellent reviews, although it appears that on some models, at least, quality control has not been as good as it might have been. Mine is still in the post... :grimace:

    ETA: the South Eastern & Chatham acquired five GNoSR 4-4-0s, which worked from Our Town's shed. They lasted into Southern days, and Rapido (of course) plan a couple (different numbers) in Southern olive green.
    *sigh*
  • Bishops FingerBishops Finger Shipmate
    edited 3:03PM
    Sighthound wrote: »
    I find it intriguing that pre-group modelling has suddenly become 'cool'.

    I welcome it, as I have always thought the real golden days of railways were pre-1923 (or arguably, pre-1914), but I wonder how long it can last. Perhaps people have finally realised what I figured out many years ago. That you can no more go back to yesterday than you can to <whatever year you choose>. History began five minutes ago.

    This.

    It's noticeable that manufacturers seem to be producing pre-grouping locomotives and rolling stock which lasted well into post-grouping and even BR days. This ISTM increases the potential market for such models, though whether the market will last is another matter, as you say.

    The appearance and operation of historic locomotives and coaches on heritage railways must help, of course.

    The high prices of high-end models are also of some concern. There are videos on YouTube concentrating on small, low-budget, layouts, often in N scale, using the neat Kato track (with integral ballast), but there don't seem to be many (if any) UK manufacturers offering low(er)-price models in any scale. Even Hornby's *Railroad* range models aren't exactly cheap...

    I'm fortunate enough to be able to afford high-end prices, though the problem now is finding space for the models. Never mind - my sorrowing Heirs and Assigns will benefit, in due course.
  • SandemaniacSandemaniac Shipmate

    As you say, maybe it's time for the Great Eastern to get another look-in? Accurascale have done a really good job with the delightful little J67 0-6-0T, so maybe they have something else GER up their sleeve....

    Would you lot mind shutting up about stuff that would suit the Thaxted branch until I have spare cash, please?

  • What you clearly need is a Union Pacific "Big Boy" or "Challenger" ...
  • betjemaniacbetjemaniac Shipmate
    Sighthound wrote: »
    I find it intriguing that pre-group modelling has suddenly become 'cool'.

    I welcome it, as I have always thought the real golden days of railways were pre-1923 (or arguably, pre-1914), but I wonder how long it can last. Perhaps people have finally realised what I figured out many years ago. That you can no more go back to yesterday than you can to <whatever year you choose>. History began five minutes ago.

    This.

    It's noticeable that manufacturers seem to be producing pre-grouping locomotives and rolling stock which lasted well into post-grouping and even BR days. This ISTM increases the potential market for such models, though whether the market will last is another matter, as you say.

    The appearance and operation of historic locomotives and coaches on heritage railways must help, of course.

    The high prices of high-end models are also of some concern. There are videos on YouTube concentrating on small, low-budget, layouts, often in N scale, using the neat Kato track (with integral ballast), but there don't seem to be many (if any) UK manufacturers offering low(er)-price models in any scale. Even Hornby's *Railroad* range models aren't exactly cheap...

    I'm fortunate enough to be able to afford high-end prices, though the problem now is finding space for the models. Never mind - my sorrowing Heirs and Assigns will benefit, in due course.

    As the resident N modeller, I’m just going to point out that Kato is not cheap. Even allowing for the integral point motor you’re looking at £40+ for *each* set of points. And then you have to buy the point switches separately.

    On a Kato double track roundy roundy with some sidings in 8’ by 2.5’ you’re looking at north of £1000 of Kato track before you buy anything else.

    On the other hand, it is the best solution for N gauge.
  • betjemaniacbetjemaniac Shipmate
    Oh, and it does have integral ballast, but half the challenge of Kato track is then disguising that fact with paint and proper ballast!
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