What did you sing at church today?

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  • Good Friday Communion (not at my usual place)

    Bless the Lord my Soul (Taize)
    When the Wheel of Fate is Turning (Austria)
    When I Survey the Wondrous Cross (Rockingham)
    God of Life and God of Freedom (Hyfrydol)

    Meditation on 'Love Unknown' John Ireland
    Anthems
    See Father thy beloved Son - Benjamin Rogers
    The Royal Banners - plainsong
    Ave Verum - Byrd
    A Litany - William Walton
  • Nick TamenNick Tamen Shipmate
    Nick Tamen wrote: »
    I’ve never heard “Rejoice, the Lord is King” to anything other than DARWALL/DARWALL’S 148TH.
    Very commonly sung in UK to "Gopsal".
    A Pond difference, I suppose. GOPSAL is an unfamiliar tune to me.

    KarlLB wrote: »
    Nick Tamen wrote: »
    I’ve never heard “Rejoice, the Lord is King” to anything other than DARWALL/DARWALL’S 148TH.
    Very commonly sung in UK to "Gopsal".
    DARWALL is Ye Holy Angels Bright to me.
    And that is an unfamiliar text to me.
    Heron wrote: »
    As a point of interest, in the order of service, the following note was added to the Reproaches:

    '............. at times in Christian history the Reproaches have been used explicitly or implicitly to condemn Jewish people or to stir up hostility against Jewish people, or to stir up hostility against Jewish people in the present day. It is important to remember that Jesus' words are to be understood as applying to the present Church, rather than to his own contemporaries. Here, 'Israel' and 'my people' stand for the Church, and we are to hear the Reproaches as directed to our own hardness of heart and failure of discipleship.'
    To make the the point about the Reproaches being heard as addressed to the Church, our service book* introduces the reproaches with:

    O my people, O my church,
    what more could I have done for you?
    Answer me.


    And this is included as the penultimate Reproach:

    I grafted you into my people Israel,
    but you made them scapegoats for your own guilt,
    and you have made a cross for your Savior.


    The final Reproach is:

    I was hungry and you gave me no food,
    thirsty and you gave me no drink,
    a stranger and you did not welcome me,
    naked and you did not clothe me,
    sick and in prison and you did not visit me,
    and you have made a cross for your Savior.



    * Evangelical Lutheran Worship (ELCA 2006) is identified as the source for the version in our book.

  • Nick Tamen wrote: »
    Nick Tamen wrote: »
    I’ve never heard “Rejoice, the Lord is King” to anything other than DARWALL/DARWALL’S 148TH.
    Very commonly sung in UK to "Gopsal".
    A Pond difference, I suppose. GOPSAL is an unfamiliar tune to me.
    Yes, I think so.

  • As regards The Reproaches, I'm pretty sure Our Place uses the current Roman Catholic version. Without further research, I'd assume that it's along the lines @Heron refers to.

    Our Place probably had a sung responsorial Psalm, too, as a cantor was available.
  • We had two hymns this morning, both enjoyably unfamiliar to me. The one I liked better was the 17th C Ah! holy Jesu, how hast thou offended; J. Heermann, J. Crüger. It wasn't easy to sing, but the choir carried it well. The words are powerful, complete, and convey the mood of the day. It could have been a Good Friday litany with nothing else needed.
  • Alan29Alan29 Shipmate
    We had two hymns this morning, both enjoyably unfamiliar to me. The one I liked better was the 17th C Ah! holy Jesu, how hast thou offended; J. Heermann, J. Crüger. It wasn't easy to sing, but the choir carried it well. The words are powerful, complete, and convey the mood of the day. It could have been a Good Friday litany with nothing else needed.

    That hymn has one of the most beautiful melodies ever composed.
  • Doesn't it come in one of Bach's Passions?
  • PuzzlerPuzzler Shipmate
    Several times, in both his St. Matthew and St John’s passions.
  • Alan29Alan29 Shipmate
    Puzzler wrote: »
    Several times, in both his St. Matthew and St John’s passions.

    Variously harmonised.
  • Some old favourites at Our Place tomorrow:

    Jesus Christ is risen today
    (Easter Hymn)
    I danced in the morning (Sydney Carter)
    Something from The Sheet (possibly the Lord's Prayer)
    This joyful Eastertide (Vreuchten - congregation to join in only with the refrain)
    Jesus lives! thy terrors now (St Albinus)
    Thine be the glory (Maccabaeus)
  • We'll be having:



    “Jesus Christ is risen today”- Easter Hymn.
    “Jesus is risen, alleluia!” - Tanzanian tune/Wild Goose.
    “See what a morning, gloriously bright” - Getty/Townend.
    “O sons and daughters of the King” - St Albinus.
    “Myrrh-bearing Mary” - Slane.
    "Christ is alive, let Christian sing" - Truro.

    Decided to give "Thine be the glory" a rest this year.
  • March HareMarch Hare Shipmate
    Puzzler wrote: »
    Several times, in both his St. Matthew and St John’s passions.

    Forgive my ignorance, but in which sections?
  • PuzzlerPuzzler Shipmate
    Various words, various harmonies / arrangements
    St Matthew:
    no 16 My saviour why must all this befall thee?
    No 55 O wondrous love that suffers this correction
    St John:
    no7 O mighty love, O love beyond all measure.
    No 27 O king of glory, king for time unending
  • ThunderBunkThunderBunk Shipmate
    edited April 4
    I'm singing (or more properly intoning) the Exultet in church around 8. It will be done from the pulpit, rather than round the fire at the door.

    I thought it was a shame, but it actually makes more sense for it to happen after the readings, as we move properly from vigil with Christ in hell/the tomb, and into the joy of Easter.
  • Alan29Alan29 Shipmate
    It's quite a sing. I used to split it with another man. We sang alternate sections from a high gallery out of sight into the darkened Church.
    There are versions with congregational refrains.
  • ThunderBunkThunderBunk Shipmate
    It is quite a sing. I've decided to do it with A as the reciting note, since it suits my baritone voice better than the C at which it is written. Easy enough once one has realised the key signature that comes with it.
  • Alan29Alan29 Shipmate
    Easter Vigil this evening. A lot of music, calling for soloists.
    5 psalms, Litany of the Saints, usual Mass parts.
    Hymns inlude
    Water of life
    Now the green blade
    All heav'n declares
    Jesus Christ is ris'n today.
    5 adults are joining the church tonight, 3 are adult baptisms the others are already baptised and are being confirmed. This is the most I can remember.
  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    Piglet wrote: »
    IIRC my old music teacher wrote a rather joyous descant to "St John".

    It's a good tune, but I can't quite imagine it to My song is love unknown - perhaps a tad too jolly?
    Are you sure you're thinking of the right tune? There are several with the same name!

    https://www.smallchurchmusic.com/2011/Score/MySongIsLove-StJohn.pdf

    This is the St John I was thinking of:

    https://hymnary.org/tune/st_john_13355

    I'm afraid I can't remember which hymn we sang it to; it was getting on for 40 years ago!
  • I've definitely sung that - but I can't remember with what words, either. Might have been "God is gone up on high/with an almighty shout".
  • DardaDarda Shipmate
    Easter morning communion
    Jesus Christ is Risen Today - EASTER HYMN
    All Heav'n Declares - own tune
    Jesus is Lord of all the earth - ALLELUIA
    Thine be the Glory - JUDAS MACCABEUS
  • PuzzlerPuzzler Shipmate
    Group service of Holy Communion.
    Mass of St Thomas.

    Jesus Christ is risen today
    Now the green blade riseth - Noël Nouvelet
    At the lamb’s high feast we sing
    Alleluia, alleluia, give thanks to the risen Lord
    Thine be the glory.
  • March HareMarch Hare Shipmate
    Unable to worship in person today so joined the Cathedral Eucharist online.

    Introit: This Joyful Eastertide, trad. arr. Charles Wood
    The Easter Anthems
    Mass: Communion Service in D minor, Vaughan Williams
    Psalm: 31 vv9-16
    Motet: Civitas sancti tui, William Byrd

    Hymns:
    At the Lamb’s high feast we sing Easter Hymn
    Ye choirs of new Jerusalem St Fulbert
    Thine be the glory, risen, conquering Son Maccabaeus
  • Quick visits to Other Places (online), and it was interesting to hear Jesus Christ is risen today (Easter Hymn) sung in Dutch (Old-Catholic Cathedral, Utrecht), in Swedish (Lutheran Cathedral, Uppsala) - both at last night's Vigil Masses - and again in Swedish (Lutheran Cathedral, Borga/Porvoo, Finland).

    Our Place had it this morning as the entrance hymn, and uses the tune for the Regina Coeli at the end of Sunday Mass from now until Pentecost.
  • Alan29Alan29 Shipmate
    edited April 5
    I assume thr Regina Coeli is an expanded paraphrase. The original is the shortest of the Marian antiphons by some margin, while the tune is quite long.
  • Early Service this Morning - in advance of an Easter Baptismal Service

    Christ The Lord Is Risen Today (Easter Hymn)
    Thine Be The Glory (Maccabeus)
    Low In The Grave He Lay (Christ Arose)
    Led Like a Lamb To The Slaughter (Kendrick)
    I Serve A Risen Saviour (Ackley)
    Crown Him With Many Crowns (Diademata)

    Baptismal Service with Seven Believers' Baptisms

    Living Hope (Phil Wickham, Brian Mark Johnson)
    Resurrection Hymn (Getty/Townend)
    Abide (Aaron Keyes, Aaron Williams, Jake Fauber)
    Firm Foundation (He Won't) (Austin Davis / Chandler Moore / Cody Carnes)
    Build my Life (Pat Barrett, Brett Younker, Karl Martin, Kirby Kaple, and Matt Redman)
    Goodness of God (Jenn Johnson, Ed Cash, Ben Fielding, Jason Ingram, Brian Johnson)
    Take my Life and Let it Be (Nottingham)
    I Offer My Life (Claire Cloninger, Don Moen)
    ⁠O Praise the Name (Martin W. Sampson / Benjamin William Hastings / Dean Michael Ussher)
    ⁠⁠I Thank God (Chuck Butler / Maryanne George / Jesse Cline / Enrique Holmes / Dante Bowe / Aaron Moses)
  • HeronHeron Shipmate
    Easter Day Communion - a packed house including one sleepy lurcher.

    Organ before opening hymn: Four pieces for musical clocks (Haydn)
    Mass setting: Missa Sancti Nicolai: Haydn
    Anthem: Blessed be the God and Father: Wesley

    Hymns:
    Jesus Christ is risen today (Easter Hymn) - liberal use of the organ's zimbelstern
    Light's glittering morn (Lasst Uns Erfreuen)
    If Christ had not been raised (Kingsfold)
    Thine be the glory (Maccabaeus)

    Voluntary: Symphony V: Toccata: Widor.

    Lovely music with great solo work from choral scholars. Wesley was new to me + I really enjoyed it.

    Was I perhaps a little under-rehearsed? A bit squirrelly in some of the faster sections? Whatever the truth (and I can get chuckle-y in faster runs unless I really work at it), the choir were all caught up in the wonder of Easter.

    (2 smaller singers got badges today too!)

    Heron


  • Bishops FingerBishops Finger Shipmate
    edited April 5
    Alan29 wrote: »
    I assume the Regina Coeli is an expanded paraphrase. The original is the shortest of the Marian antiphons by some margin, while the tune is quite long.

    Yes. IIRC, it goes something like this:

    1. Sung by all to hymn tune:

    Joy to thee, O Queen of Heaven, Alleluia!
    He whom thou wast meet to bear, Alleluia!
    As he promised hath arisen, Alleluia!
    Pour for us to God thy prayer, Alleluia!


    2. Chanted by officiant, response by all

    Rejoice and be glad, O Virgin Mary, Alleluia!
    For the Lord is risen indeed, Alleluia!

    3. Said or chanted by officiant:

    Let us pray. O God, who gave joy to the world through the resurrection of Thy Son, our Lord Jesus Christ, grant we beseech Thee, that through the intercession of the Virgin Mary, His Mother, we may obtain the joys of everlasting life. Through the same Christ our Lord. Amen.

    BTW, Our Place has had a good Holy Week TBTG. 36 on Palm Sunday, 28 at the Good Friday Liturgy (plus 9 at Stations in the evening), 22 at the Vigil yesterday, and 60 at Mass this morning. Usual Sunday attendance is around 30. Maundy Thursday was low - a Baker's Dozen - but this always seems to be the one for the Really Faithful (IYSWIM), who can spend a good couple of late-ish evening hours in church...
  • ETA: the Something from The Sheet this morning was this - a familiar tune (to me, anyway), but words not in Ye Orange Boke:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOgel4KKwhA&list=RDIOgel4KKwhA&start_radio=1
  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    Apart from the first hymn, mostly crud at St Pete's:

    Jesus Christ is risen today - Easter Hymn
    I will enter his gates - He has made me glad
    Jesus, stand among us - Kendrick
    Jesus, name above all names
    From the very depths of darkness - Battle Hymn of the Republic* 🙄

    * I made my escape before the last hymn, as I had a bus to catch.
  • An exhilarating service altogether today, closing with a thunderous rendering of the 'Hallelujah Chorus'.

    Presbyterians... The interim minister threw up his hands several times during the service and cried out, "Hallelujah!"while the congregation (some of us) just nodded approvingly.
  • NenyaNenya All Saints Host, Ecclesiantics & MW Host
    Thine be the glory
    Jesus Christ is risen today
    See what a morning, gloriously bright
    Christ triumphant, ever reigning
  • Piglet wrote: »
    Apart from the first hymn, mostly crud at St Pete's:

    Jesus Christ is risen today - Easter Hymn
    I will enter his gates - He has made me glad
    Jesus, stand among us - Kendrick
    Jesus, name above all names
    From the very depths of darkness - Battle Hymn of the Republic* 🙄

    * I made my escape before the last hymn, as I had a bus to catch.

    O dear.

    I'd have gone for that bus somewhat earlier than you did...
  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    I didn't have much choice - the rest of the choir were in need of my support, such as it is.

    It was perhaps unfortunate that although out resident guitarist was there, his guitar wasn't. (In fairness to him, he's been away, and may not have realised it was needed).
  • AravisAravis Shipmate
    Jesus Christ is risen today
    I danced in the morning
    Alleluia, alleluia, give thanks to the risen Lord
    All in an Easter garden*
    Thine be the glory

    *This is in the children’s section of Complete Anglican, set to a truly appalling tune that reminds me of “Knees up Mother Brown”, but we sing it to “Day of Rest” instead (one of the older tunes to “O Jesus I have promised”) which works much better.
  • Nick TamenNick Tamen Shipmate
    We actually only had two hymns as such this morning:

    “Christ the Lord Is Risen Today”/LLANFAIR
    “Rise, O Church, like Christ Arisen”/SURGE ECCLESIA

    There were other sung bits, but these two, sung at the beginning and the end of the service, were the two that qualify (in my mind) as hymns. My initial disappointment that there wouldn’t be more hymns was much alleviated by having brass and tympani on these two, and when all was said and done, I didn’t miss having more.

    All in all, a very joyous service.


  • WandererWanderer Shipmate
    edited April 6
    We had:
    Jesus Christ is risen today
    A Kendrick thing (sorry can't remember its name)
    See what a morning, gloriously bright
    Thine be the glory
    The first and last ones were enlivened by a trumpeter who accompanied the organist. The congregation were in good voice (by our modest standards) but numbers were down on last year. We had about 40 in the congregation. Last Easter we had 60. A usual Sunday has 25 - 30. I don't know if people had gone to Away, or if Storm Dave had put them off.
  • KarlLBKarlLB Shipmate
    Piglet wrote: »
    Apart from the first hymn, mostly crud at St Pete's:

    Jesus Christ is risen today - Easter Hymn
    I will enter his gates - He has made me glad
    Jesus, stand among us - Kendrick
    Jesus, name above all names
    From the very depths of darkness - Battle Hymn of the Republic* 🙄

    * I made my escape before the last hymn, as I had a bus to catch.

    You need to gently hint to your rev that her calling isn't choice of hymns and have the job passed to someone with a little taste.
  • The much-reviled Orange Book does at least have the advantage of a comprehensive set of indexes, suggesting hymns for the various Sundays, major Holydays, and other liturgical occasions.

    Having used them myself, in conjunction with the CD recordings, I can only say that it isn't rocket science, and that it is fairly easy to compile a selection of hymns - traditional and contemporary, if the latter is required - for any given service.

    @Piglet's Rector could do with a tutorial or two...
    :naughty:
  • OblatusOblatus Shipmate
    Easter Day - Solemn High Mass

    "Welcome, happy morning!" age to age shall say (Fortunatus)
    Jesus Christ is risen today, Alleluia! (Easter Hymn)
    Christians, to the Paschal victim (Victimae Paschali laudes)
    Come, ye faithful, raise the strain (St. Kevin / Gaudeamus pariter - alternating stanzas)
    Come, risen Lord, and deign to be our guest (Rosedale)
    Jesus lives! thy terrors now (St. Albinus)
    The day of resurrection! Eart, tell it out abroad (Ellacombe)

    Choral:
    Byrd: Mass for Five Voices
    Byrd: Haec dies, quam fecit Dominus
    Byrd: Terra tremuit
  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    So could Piglet: she's asked me to help with the selection of hymns.

    Basically I get a bit of free rein with introits and extroits, and one of the others, and she can put crud what she likes in between.

    I realise it isn't rocket science, but even with the indexes, I find it's harder than it looks!
  • Understood. I was working on my own, so could more-or-less include whatever I thought suitable (with occasional suggestions from Madam Sacristan).

  • PuzzlerPuzzler Shipmate
    Our DM chooses hymns for churches in the group, using the RSCM guidance. Yes, clergy can make changes, but rarely do in the interregnum.
    Whoever led the service on Good Friday had his own ideas. I don’t know what he substituted , but who ignores There is a green hill, My song is love unknown and When I survey in a traditional BCP church on Good Friday?
  • Surely those three are must-haves for Good Friday! Was it a Communion service, or Mattins, do you know?
  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    It wouldn't have been Communion on Good Friday, would it?
  • We had Communion on Good Friday, strange folk that we are!
  • It might - Collect, Epistle and Gospel are all provided for Good Friday in the BCP, but no Proper Preface.

    However, I suspect the custom in many places was for the rather long service to be Mattins, Litany, and Ante-Communion...
  • We had Communion on Good Friday, strange folk that we are!

    Not strange at all - many churches have Communion, sometimes from the Reserved Sacrament set aside on Maundy Thursday. I know that isn't your tradition, of course, but some form of receiving Communion is widespread.
  • SpikeSpike Ecclesiantics & MW Host, Admin Emeritus
    I’ve known churches that have communion on Good Friday. At my church we receive from the reserved sacrament, but I used to worship at a place that had a full Eucharist as part of the Good Friday Liturgy. There used to be a service book authorised by the Church of England called “Lent, Holy Week and Easter” (usually referred to as “the red book”) that allowed for this and had a long paragraph explaining why it was appropriate.
  • Bishops FingerBishops Finger Shipmate
    edited April 10
    Yes, I remember Lent, Holy Week, and Easter, though I no longer have my copy. It was a very useful source of liturgical material, much of which AFAIK has been incorporated into Common Worship.

    There was also a handy booklet by (IIRC) +Michael Perham, giving hints on how to use the LHWE material in one's own parish.
  • Back to normal after the excesses of Easter Day

    "Called to Serve - You are my Witnesses" from Luke 24:36-53 is the sermon theme and text. Usual four hymns in our sandwich today:

    Praise my soul the king of heaven (Lauda Anima)
    Great is the Lord, and most worthy of praise (Steve McEwan)
    Hail Thou Once Despised Jesus (Autumn)
    Hallelujah! sing to Jesus (Hyfrodol)

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