General Good-byes And RIPs

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  • He had almost 10 times as many complete games as alll of MLB last year.
  • bassobasso Shipmate
    Hedgehog wrote: »
    Baseball Hall of Famer Gaylord Perry died yesterday, age 84. He had a reputation for throwing an illegal "spitball" but was only ejected for doing that once.
    I grew up watching the umpires trying to catch him. I think there was an understanding that they wouldn't search him too carefully. We all knew he was throwing the spitter. It made for good kabuki.
    The Giants had their 3 Ms -- Mays, McCovey, and Marichal. Then Cepeda and Perry come next in my memory. Good times, but I'll shut up now before I really get going.
  • stetsonstetson Shipmate
    edited December 2022
    Caissa wrote: »

    It musta been tough for Carroll Spinney(aka Big Bird) to do that scene. Apparently, everyone was quite emotional, and likely used their real-life affection for Bill Lee in their portrayals of their characters reaction to Hooper's death. But Spinney would have had to keep acting as if he thought Hooper was coming back, since that was the plot set-up to teach kids about the finality of death.
  • jedijudyjedijudy Heaven Host
    Kirstie Alley has died. She was only 71 years old.
    I first saw her in Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan in her role as Saavik.
  • And her Rebecca Howe filled the hole left by Diane Chambers when Shelley Long left Cheers.

  • windsofchangewindsofchange Shipmate
    edited December 2022
    jedijudy wrote: »
    Kirstie Alley has died. She was only 71 years old.
    I first saw her in Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan in her role as Saavik.

    How sad. She was very good in "Look Who's Talking" as well.
  • Ruth Madoc - aka Gladys Pugh in Hi-Di-Hi.
    Died after surgery following a fall. Aged 79.
  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    Goodnight, campers. :cry:

    RIP
  • HuiaHuia Shipmate
    Colin Gibson, a NZ composer of church music died a few days ago. I should have posted earlier, but two previous Ministers of the church I go to when I;m going to church, died within a couple of days of each other and i was knocked sideways,
  • Gee DGee D Shipmate
    You would be. Keep well.
  • Curt Simmons, the last surviving member of the Philadelphia Phillies' "Whiz Kids" team from 1950, has died. A pitcher, he made the famous comment: "Trying to throw a baseball by Hank Aaron is like trying to sneak the sunrise past a rooster." The respect was mutual. Hank Aaron always considered Curt Simmons to be the toughest pitcher he ever faced.
  • Aonghas MacNeacail, poet, songwriter, broadcaster, has died aged 80.
  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    Terry Hall, singer with The Specials and the Fun Boy Three, has died aged only 63.
  • DoublethinkDoublethink Admin, 8th Day Host
    Mr Ali, inventor of Chicken Tikka Masala
  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    I'd have thought chicken tikka masala had been cooked by people's grannies in Delhi and Mumbai for centuries, and it turns out to have been invented by a bloke in Glasgow!
  • Piglet wrote: »
    I'd have thought chicken tikka masala had been cooked by people's grannies in Delhi and Mumbai for centuries, and it turns out to have been invented by a bloke in Glasgow!

    Nope. Entirely British invention. Tikka is a dry cooking method. Plenty of authentic chicken in sauce dishes but authentically tikka's one thing and curry's another.

    To be honest, a lot of what appears on UK Indian Restaurant menus wouldn't be particularly familiar anywhere in the sub-continent, although authentic stuff is starting to become more available.
  • EnochEnoch Shipmate
    I've heard somewhere that either Balti or much of what is now known as Balti was invented in the West Midlands.

  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    I think I'd heard that - I seem to associate it with Birmingham.
  • KarlLBKarlLB Shipmate
    edited December 2022
    I always thought it was entirely invented in Birmingham. Wikipedia says it's a bit more complicated than that.
  • TelfordTelford Shipmate
    edited December 2022
    Piglet wrote: »
    I think I'd heard that - I seem to associate it with Birmingham.

    Yes. The Balti triangle in Balsall Heath, Birmingham
  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    Ah!
  • PantsPants Shipmate
    KarlLB wrote: »
    Piglet wrote: »
    I'd have thought chicken tikka masala had been cooked by people's grannies in Delhi and Mumbai for centuries, and it turns out to have been invented by a bloke in Glasgow!

    Nope. Entirely British invention. Tikka is a dry cooking method. Plenty of authentic chicken in sauce dishes but authentically tikka's one thing and curry's another.

    To be honest, a lot of what appears on UK Indian Restaurant menus wouldn't be particularly familiar anywhere in the sub-continent, although authentic stuff is starting to become more available.

    Indeed. They were talking about it on Jeremy Vine today and saying exactly that.
  • Telford wrote: »
    Piglet wrote: »
    I think I'd heard that - I seem to associate it with Birmingham.

    Yes. The Balti triangle in Balsall Heath, Birmingham

    Although linguistically that's a coincidence - Balti is a word for cooking pot in a number of Indian languages, ultimately from the Portuguese Balde, a bucket.
  • DardaDarda Shipmate
    George Cohen , a member of England's World Cup wining team in 1966 has died. I was 13 back then!
  • SpikeSpike Ecclesiantics & MW Host, Admin Emeritus
    edited December 2022
    KarlLB wrote: »
    Piglet wrote: »
    I'd have thought chicken tikka masala had been cooked by people's grannies in Delhi and Mumbai for centuries, and it turns out to have been invented by a bloke in Glasgow!

    Nope. Entirely British invention. Tikka is a dry cooking method. Plenty of authentic chicken in sauce dishes but authentically tikka's one thing and curry's another.

    To be honest, a lot of what appears on UK Indian Restaurant menus wouldn't be particularly familiar anywhere in the sub-continent, although authentic stuff is starting to become more available.

    I live in an area where there is a large South Indian community, so most of the food places are authentic. There’s one restaurant that Mrs Spike and I frequent where we are often the only white people present. I told an Indian customer of mine how much I enjoy eating Dosa and her response was “oh, so you like proper Indian food!”
  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    It seems to me that having a clientele largely of the same nationality as the cuisine is a good sign that the restaurant must be doing it right!

    Wong Kei in Wardour Street is a good example - four floors full of Chinese people enjoying excellent Chinese food (although the service is, shall we say, brisk - you're given a bowl, china spoon and chopsticks, and daren't ask for a fork)!
  • EnochEnoch Shipmate
    It has just been announced that John Bird the comedian has died, famous for his and the late John Fortune's double act, I think just before Christmas.

  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    Pele and Vivienne Westwood on the same day.
  • HeavenlyannieHeavenlyannie Shipmate
    edited December 2022
    BBC says Vivienne Westwood has died https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-64122181
  • On the evening of 21 February 1972, I was in a crowd of 54,437 at Villa Park to see a friendly game between Santos and Aston Villa. I stood in the Witton end which was a large uncovered kop. It was during an industrial dispute and the floodlights were powered by a generator. I was only there because I realised it was probably my only chance to see Pele play.

  • Telford wrote: »
    On the evening of 21 February 1972, I was in a crowd of 54,437 at Villa Park to see a friendly game between Santos and Aston Villa. I stood in the Witton end which was a large uncovered kop. It was during an industrial dispute and the floodlights were powered by a generator. I was only there because I realised it was probably my only chance to see Pele play.

    A memory well worth cherishing.
  • Seconded BF (Telford)
  • Telford wrote: »
    On the evening of 21 February 1972, I was in a crowd of 54,437 at Villa Park to see a friendly game between Santos and Aston Villa. I stood in the Witton end which was a large uncovered kop. It was during an industrial dispute and the floodlights were powered by a generator. I was only there because I realised it was probably my only chance to see Pele play.

    A memory well worth cherishing.

    Let's just say that we weren't there to watch The Villa and that includes the Villa supporters


  • I've heard it stated that Four Strong Winds is often sung in Alberta as if it has some sort of unofficial anthem status, but I can't say I ever heard it sung quite like that before I left the province in 2001(*).

    And it's kind of ambiguous about whether the song is actually ABOUT Alberta, because as far as I can tell, for the entirety of the text, the narrator is meant to be understood as OUTSIDE Alberta, but planning to go there for work, BUT thinking he'd rather stay where he is to rekindle a romance. Granted, the song does make passing reference to the weather in Alberta.

    (*) I've heard that it's sung every year at the Edmonton Folk Test, which I've only attended twice, in the early 90s. Can't remember if I heard it or not.
  • DoublethinkDoublethink Admin, 8th Day Host
    John Bird has died.
  • stetsonstetson Shipmate
    edited December 2022
    stetson wrote: »

    I've heard it stated that Four Strong Winds is often sung in Alberta as if it has some sort of unofficial anthem status, but I can't say I ever heard it sung quite like that before I left the province in 2001(*).

    And it's kind of ambiguous about whether the song is actually ABOUT Alberta, because as far as I can tell, for the entirety of the text, the narrator is meant to be understood as OUTSIDE Alberta, but planning to go there for work, BUT thinking he'd rather stay where he is to rekindle a romance. Granted, the song does make passing reference to the weather in Alberta.

    (*) I've heard that it's sung every year at the Edmonton Folk Test, which I've only attended twice, in the early 90s. Can't remember if I heard it or not.

    Also...

    Four strong winds that blow lonely/Seven seas that run high

    Alberta is landlocked.

    Plus, the details of the narrative are inconsistent. In the first verse, he implies that the relationship is over("...we've been through that a hundred times or more"), but in the second, he suggests that she'd be willing to join him if he paid for her fare, albeit the cold weather might be a deterrent.
  • Oh wow! Ian and Sylvia were a key feature of my younger years. I still find myself humming some of those tunes
  • stetsonstetson Shipmate
    edited December 2022
    MrsBeaky wrote: »
    Ian and Sylvia were a key feature of my younger years.

    When your age was twenty-one?
  • Barbara Walters has died.
  • The Vatican has just announced that Pope Benedict XVI has died.
  • EnochEnoch Shipmate
    That is sad. I heard it on the BBC about an hour and a half ago.
  • The Vatican has just announced that Pope Benedict XVI has died.
    Enoch wrote: »
    That is sad. I heard it on the BBC about an hour and a half ago.

    A man lives to the age of 95 and dies in conditions of relative luxury. Far from being "sad", most of us should hope to be so lucky.
  • Seems to be it’s quite possible to consider the circumstances under which someone dies—including quite old age and comfortable accommodations—to be not at all sad, while still being saddened that they have died. That is certainly my experience.

  • Gee DGee D Shipmate
    Nick Tamen wrote: »
    Seems to be it’s quite possible to consider the circumstances under which someone dies—including quite old age and comfortable accommodations—to be not at all sad, while still being saddened that they have died. That is certainly my experience.

    I'd agree, and add that Benedict has kept public silence since he retired, keeping well out of the way.
  • stetson wrote: »
    MrsBeaky wrote: »
    Ian and Sylvia were a key feature of my younger years.

    When your age was twenty-one?

    Not quite sure what you mean?! I used to listen to their music a lots in my teens/20s and then continued to do so up to now. In fact just before Christmas I watched my favourite songs from a reunion concert they did in the 80s which I found on YouTube. I have VERY eclectic taste in music 😂
  • MrsBeaky wrote: »
    I used to listen to their music a lots in my teens/20s

    Sounds like you were pretty wild, in your younger days.

    If you don't get it after this, I'll explain.
  • stetson wrote: »
    MrsBeaky wrote: »
    I used to listen to their music a lots in my teens/20s

    Sounds like you were pretty wild, in your younger days.

    If you don't get it after this, I'll explain.

    My best guess is that it's a line from a song?
    If not, then 🤷‍♀️
  • stetsonstetson Shipmate
    edited December 2022
    My best guess is that it's a line from a song?

    Someday Soon, written and composed by Ian. In fairness, the song is much more closely associated with its most renowned interpreter, Judy Collins.
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